#72852 - seam - Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:07 am
MoonShell Version 1.0 FinalBeta is out.
http://mdxonline.dyndns.org/archives/nds/index.html
Version 1.0 FinalBeta 2006/02/22
DPGPlugin:Include MP2 and GSM decoder of DPG. (for old DPG files)
PNGPlugin:It corresponded to the stream reading.
BMPPlugin:It corresponded to the stream reading.
The maximum reduction rate of the image has been improved from 50% to 25%.
The clock was changed to 24 hour system.
The total of the number of files display was limited only to a pure files.
An external plug-in (MSP format) can be dynamically load.
The font file is dynamically substituted. refer to CreateFontPackage.exe.
The processing when synchronization is lost can be chosen. Refer to [DPGPlugin] section of global.ini.
Flexible was added to ClosedSholderButton of global.ini. It pushes simultaneously and the operation of L+R.
#72867 - Mr. Picklesworth - Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:32 am
May I be the first to say:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Congratulations on reaching Version 1.0, Moonlight :)
I'm downloading it now.
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#72869 - ghazi - Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:43 am
Wow, yeah. Congrats, Moonlight!
That's awesome.
#72872 - GragonSon - Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:55 am
congrat, Moonlight...
I just tried it, it's awsome. The two button R and L now have flexible when DS is closed----> Hold L, press R = Playnext; Hold R, press L = Stop.!!! Cool
I just have two questions: what do Plug-in use for and how to use it?
How do I change background in this new version?
#72876 - m2pt5 - Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:25 am
| GragonSon wrote: |
I just have two questions: what do Plug-in use for and how to use it?
How do I change background in this new version? |
Plug-ins replace everything being embedded in the .nds. The plugin folder goes in the shell folder, and on your card.
You change the background the same way as before; replace the desktop.bmp in the shell folder with another 256x192 8-bit bitmap.
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#72879 - Xtreme - Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:16 am
MoonShell (for Nintendo DS, by Moonlight) (Website: Google translated: English | Original language: Japanese)
Release notes:
Version 1.0 final beta 2006/02/22
DPGPlugin:Include MP2 and GSM decoder of DPG. (for old DPG files)
PNGPlugin:It corresponded to the stream reading.
BMPPlugin:It corresponded to the stream reading.
The maximum reduction rate of the image has been improved from 50% to 25%.
The clock was changed to 24 hour system.
The total of the number of files display was limited only to a pure files.
An external plug-in (MSP format) can be dynamically load.
The font file is dynamically substituted. refer to CreateFontPackage.exe.
The processing when synchronization is lost can be chosen. Refer to [DPGPlugin] section of global.ini.
Flexible was added to ClosedSholderButton of global.ini. It pushes simultaneously and the operation of L+R.
Version 0.999 2006/02/14
The FAT library was updated to gba_nds_fat_2006-02-09. (very very thanks Chishm)
MagicKey2/3 was supported. (Please refer to forMagicKey/readme.txt)
A small bug to shuffle was corrected. (Thanks 681)
The maximum reduction rate of the image has been improved from 65% to 50%.
MP3Plugin:A reactive speed of the seek operation has been improved.
DPGPlugin:'mpeg1-audio-layer-2' can be used for the audio codec.
DPGPlugin:Going up to 400% of the volumes other than movie can be done.
DPGPlugin:A synchronous problem was solved.
dpgenc:The mode to be able to acquire the audio by using mencoder or ffmpeg was added.
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#72885 - Durandle - Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:31 am
Hey that sounds cool - I'll have to wait until I get home though. I'm glad I suggested the shoulder-buttons thingy idea a while back - not sure if that's where the inspiration came from though.
Great work there Moonlight/Moonshell.
#72887 - swimgod - Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:40 am
i decided to celabrate this release with a LOVEHINA skin :P
ill have the zip up soon for download once i get the font colors perfect :)
edit:
k her is version v0.1 LoveHina skin
i made :P
http://swimgod.com/ms_skins (new url...)
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#72896 - tssf - Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:10 am
How about have a notification sound for when the battery is running low, then have a window pop up "low battery! shutting down in <insert number> seconds. Click Cancel to stop shutdown"? That'd give a little more warning and allow the shutdown to be canceled if say, someone quickly plugged in an external power sorce?
EDIT: Awesome! General MIDI plugin baby!!! :D
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#72899 - Kir - Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:14 am
Moonlight, please check your mailbox at Gmail :) I've sent you an updated Russian Readme file and corrected DPG Encoder interface (Delphi form). Hope it will be useful.
#72902 - Xtreme - Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:36 am
| Kir wrote: |
| Moonlight, please check your mailbox at Gmail :) I've sent you an updated Russian Readme file and corrected DPG Encoder interface (Delphi form). Hope it will be useful. |
Do you mean that we can make translations for the DPG Encoder ? If that is true, then I will start making one as soon as someone confirms this.
Does the DPG Encoder for version 1.0 even exist? I only can see one for version 0.999.
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#72907 - MaHe - Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:35 pm
There's no need for a special one. Videos can't get optimized -> MoonShell can.
#72908 - MaHe - Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:03 pm
I've release a new skin called "Elegant Black". More info here:
http://www.mahe.ecwhost.com/nintendo_ds/
#72909 - Xtreme - Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:03 pm
| MaHe wrote: |
| There's no need for a special one. Videos can't get optimized -> MoonShell can. |
Oh, I didn't mean that. Sorry for my inaccurate post.
I meant that version that has support for language files (translations).
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#72910 - melw - Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:04 pm
Ooh... MIDI plugin. \o/ rejoices \o/
Congrats for reaching version 1.0! Moonshell gets just better and better all the time.
#72917 - m2pt5 - Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:29 pm
| melw wrote: |
| Ooh... MIDI plugin. \o/ rejoices \o/ |
Yeah, too bad out of 28 MIDI files I tried, only 6 didn't return an error, and played.
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#72922 - MaHe - Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:54 pm
Wow, I didn't even notice... PLUGIN SDK!
I wish I'd already know enough C to build a SWF plugin :>
#72926 - chatterbug89 - Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:37 pm
This is realy cool and has been workign great...BUT.
It seems to have problems with jpg files...somtimes it wont open them at all (i will just crash...No buttons will give a response)...or..I can open a couple then it crashes. It seems to not have this problem with any other type of file.
Other than that it's great. The jpg thing is sort of weird though....
#72938 - melw - Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:30 pm
| m2pt5 wrote: |
| melw wrote: | | Ooh... MIDI plugin. \o/ rejoices \o/ |
Yeah, too bad out of 28 MIDI files I tried, only 6 didn't return an error, and played. |
Currently only MIDI format 0 is supported. I also noticed that pitchbending doesn't work (instead nothing happens besides the song slows down while an unsupported midi command is given). But it's still the first homebrew DS program being able to play general midi at all, so kudos for that!
#72941 - GragonSon - Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:39 pm
| m2pt5 wrote: |
| GragonSon wrote: | I just have two questions: what do Plug-in use for and how to use it?
How do I change background in this new version? |
Plug-ins replace everything being embedded in the .nds. The plugin folder goes in the shell folder, and on your card.
You change the background the same way as before; replace the desktop.bmp in the shell folder with another 256x192 8-bit bitmap. |
But what does it do to you? I mean what advantages plug-in have over embedded? Sorry for my ignorance ^_^
How come the dpg converter is not included in this new version? Where can i get it?
Thank you
#72943 - MaHe - Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:44 pm
You can change or add them, that's why. And changing only something in the plugin is faster than compiling everything again :)
#72944 - El Hobito - Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:45 pm
using the background from vista no less...
#72949 - dangkict - Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:27 pm
| chatterbug89 wrote: |
This is realy cool and has been workign great...BUT.
It seems to have problems with jpg files...somtimes it wont open them at all (i will just crash...No buttons will give a response)...or..I can open a couple then it crashes. It seems to not have this problem with any other type of file.
Other than that it's great. The jpg thing is sort of weird though.... |
I think there are 2 types of JPEG. The NORMAL one and the JPEG 2000. I think Moonshell just can open the NORMAL type. Moonshell CANNOT open JPEG 2000.
Am I correct?
#72952 - Mr. Picklesworth - Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:35 pm
| Quote: |
| It seems to have problems with jpg files...somtimes it wont open them at all (i will just crash...No buttons will give a response)...or..I can open a couple then it crashes. It seems to not have this problem with any other type of file. |
I can confirm that.
It crashes when trying to open my Baseline Standard JPGs saved through Adobe Photoshop. They ran in all previous versions of Moonshell.
Other than that it runs fine, as always. I told you that you could write a plugin system, Moonlight! That's probably a first for handheld game console homebrew :)
I'm trying to get the source code to be compileable with Linux, but there's a bunch of filename case inconsistencies :(
Does anyone know of a program which could fix this, or should I write it myself?
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#72953 - GragonSon - Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:40 pm
| melw wrote: |
| m2pt5 wrote: | | melw wrote: | | Ooh... MIDI plugin. \o/ rejoices \o/ |
Yeah, too bad out of 28 MIDI files I tried, only 6 didn't return an error, and played. |
Currently only MIDI format 0 is supported. I also noticed that pitchbending doesn't work (instead nothing happens besides the song slows down while an unsupported midi command is given). But it's still the first homebrew DS program being able to play general midi at all, so kudos for that! |
How do we convert MIDI format1 into MIDI format 0?
#72956 - JaJa - Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:51 pm
| El Hobito wrote: |
using the background from vista no less... |
Mahe has a windows fetish prehaps?
#72957 - MaHe - Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:58 pm
Is that from Vista?
*searches on google*
Ooops. I apologize. I had that on my HD (no Windows Vista sign on it though).
#72986 - tssf - Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:52 pm
| GragonSon wrote: |
| How do we convert MIDI format1 into MIDI format 0? |
By resaving it with software like Cakewalk or something.
*converts a bunch of songs to Format 0 just to hear how they sound*
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#72998 - Durandle - Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:48 pm
Hey, just tested 1.0 and it works great for me - M3 CF. DPG movies play great, look great and sound great. Sync seems fixed too. 20fps full screen is just ... well... great :P
#73001 - Puppet - Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:54 pm
| Durandle wrote: |
| 20fps full screen is just ... well... great :P |
20fps? What are your other settings? Audio bitrate, video bitrate, PCM rate,.....
#73009 - Snowy? - Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:46 pm
| dangkict wrote: |
I think there are 2 types of JPEG. The NORMAL one and the JPEG 2000. I think Moonshell just can open the NORMAL type. Moonshell CANNOT open JPEG 2000.
Am I correct? |
JPEG 2000 are there still patent issues going on over that format?
I wonder if this could be used?
http://www.ece.uvic.ca/~mdadams/jasper/
#73011 - Xtreme - Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:57 pm
I just tested 1.0fb with video and omg, the annoying dots are back! Why, why, why. Also the video quality (with 24fps, 256kbit) is worse than with earlier versions. Very pixelated. :( *test2nocnt had better quality*
It does say it's v1.0. The temperature should say like "25.0 C", but it says only "25.0"??? Is this happening only in my DS or is it a bug?
Audio is almost in sync, cool! :)
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#73013 - tssf - Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:12 pm
Some problems with the new MIDI plugin:
-Consistent tempo does not exist. It gets very slow with a lot of audio channels being played. This is being software processed right? Perhaps it would work better to limit voices to 24 if it is possible, or to write a hardware driver and software process 2 voices per channel.
-No midi controllers are supported yet, hopefully this will change. :) The options I want the most are:
Modulation (1)
Main Volume (7)
Panning (10)
Expression (11)
Sustain Pedal (64)
Pitch Bend Wheel
RPN and NRPN are a must (for pitch bend sensitivity)
That's it. Nothing else needs to be supported, mostly because the DS hardware wouldn't be able to handle it.
-There's no kick drum in the drum kits yet.
MoonLight, is it possible to change the instruments? I would love to provide you with a very good sounding instrument bank for use in the plugin. :) What format do the instruments use?
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#73014 - MoonShell - Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:13 pm
http://mdxonline.dyndns.org/dpgenc_langtest.zip
Thanks Kir.
Multi language test of dpgenc.
(I plan to open Ver1.0 to the public on Sunday, and to end...)
To Xtreme.
Was the following item tested?
> The processing when synchronization is lost can be chosen. Refer to [DPGPlugin] section of global.ini.
[DPGPlugin]
Dithering=0
GOPSkip=0
This is the same setting as test2nocnt.
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#73019 - MoonShell - Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:22 pm
to tssf.
Smidf0.msp is a plug-in sample that presents the use of the enhancing binary(.bin).
The MSP format is a very simple format that specializes in the decipherment.
I am sincerely wishing a wonderful plug-in that cancels dissatisfaction.
example. MIDI player corresponding to format1, ogg and mod without memory leaks, Accurate and high-speed Jpeg decoder, BMP loader corresponding to RLE, etc, etc...
#73020 - Filb - Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:29 pm
MoonShell: Can I make the German language of dpgenc?
http://www.greenchu.de/dpgenc.GER.lng
By the way, I experienced a few errors with umlauts (???). Maybe you can make an unicode application? Furthermore, some texts are not in the language files, yet. It's not important, though. Please focus on the DS application of MoonShell. (^^;
A screenshot is here.
Yellow circle = Display Errors
Green circle = Not in language file
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#73021 - MoonShell - Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:32 pm
Thank you!
dpgenc.GER.lng was packed.
#73024 - Pinesal - Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:39 pm
THANK YOU FOR MIDI SUPPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sounds great! I love you!
EDIT: A lot of midis don't work though :(
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#73029 - MoonShell - Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:45 pm
| Filb wrote: |
MoonShell: Can I make the German language of dpgenc?
http://www.greenchu.de/dpgenc.GER.lng
By the way, I experienced a few errors with umlauts (???). And some labels are still untouched by the language files. (Screenshot here)
Yellow circle = Display Errors
Green circle = Not in language file |
Thank you!
dpgenc.GER.lng was packed.
dpgenc_langtest.zip was renewed. Please download it again.
The second line of the language file is a setting of the font name.
The third line of the language file is a setting of the fontsize.
If a correct font name is input in each language, it is likely to be displayed.
#73030 - Filb - Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:50 pm
| MoonShell wrote: |
dpgenc_langtest.zip was renewed. Please download it again.
The second line of the language file is a setting of the font name.
The third line of the language file is a setting of the fontsize.
If a correct font name is input in each language, it is likely to be displayed. |
Thank you for the quick update.
However, that didn't fix the "???" issue yet. (Screenshot here)
Please check if you are able to change the font "charset".
The Japanese charset code is "128". US/European one is "0". Please view this text file.
#73034 - MoonShell - Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:05 pm
| Filb wrote: |
Please check if you are able to change the font "charset".
The Japanese charset code is "128". US/European one is "0". Please view this text file. |
hum! This is good information.
I adds it to the fourth line.
Please re-download.
#73035 - Filb - Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:08 pm
| MoonShell wrote: |
| Filb wrote: | Please check if you are able to change the font "charset".
The Japanese charset code is "128". US/European one is "0". Please view this text file. |
hum! This is good information.
I adds it to the fourth line.
Please re-download. |
Perfect! It works now!! ^^
#73038 - MoonShell - Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:16 pm
| Filb wrote: |
| MoonShell wrote: | | Filb wrote: | Please check if you are able to change the font "charset".
The Japanese charset code is "128". US/European one is "0". Please view this text file. |
hum! This is good information.
I adds it to the fourth line.
Please re-download. |
Perfect! It works now!! ^^ |
Thanks.
I renewed zip again. The size of the window was changed.
#73039 - Filb - Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:22 pm
Instead of "Lucida Sans Console" with font size 9, I think "Tahoma" with font size 8 is better for English and European languages. Most of applications use it. (Please change for the next version. ^^)
#73040 - MoonShell - Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:27 pm
| Filb wrote: |
| Instead of "Lucida Sans Console" with font size 9, I think "Tahoma" with font size 8 is better for English and European languages. Most of applications use it. (Please change for the next version. ^^) |
Thank you for teaching that it is Tahoma as for a standard setting.
I immediately replaced lng file.
http://mdxonline.dyndns.org/dpgenc_langtest.zip
#73046 - m2pt5 - Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:50 pm
I haven't had trouble with any midi files playing slow, but I have had a lot play fast.
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#73054 - Raziel Fireeye - Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:21 am
I just made the Spanish Translation for Dpgencoder
http://dsmagazine.net/dpgenc.ESP.lng
#73056 - chatterbug89 - Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:41 am
I was just wondering what the deal is with the skin preview maker...with the message saying please use media which can be damaged (the only CF card i have that i don't particlarly care about wont even work with my GBA MP...). I have a skin I made that i'd like to share, but it would be nice to have a preview. Just kind of wondering what the deal with it all is.
EDIT: Also...no matter what I do...I can't get the date/time box to appear in the bottom left corner...i mess with the chords along with my skin..but...it never changes.
[OverrideWindowRect_DateTime]
x=-1
y=-1
w=-1
h=-1
EDIT2: Concerning the Jpg reading problems...
I tried it out some more. It is working perfectly with png, bmp, etc...but with jpg files, it either just crashes or it takes a very long time to load (this rarely happens.). I also at one time got a read header error..sorry, I diden't write it down.
Anyways, I tried this with a bunch of jpg files along side pictures of differnt formats, and there is deffinately a problem with jpg files in this version of moonshell.
#73061 - Dudu.exe - Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:40 am
Im still getting lot of dirty ( dots on movments )...
anyone knows a settings to make it desapear?
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#73071 - The 9th Sage - Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:14 am
| Dudu.exe wrote: |
Im still getting lot of dirty ( dots on movments )...
anyone knows a settings to make it desapear? |
Look in the global.ini for DPG settings to turn off the frame blending, if that's what you are talking about. :P
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#73100 - Durandle - Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:13 am
It maybe down to your encoding settings, what are you using for size, bitrate, etc...
This is a very solid release for Moonshell, but there's still some sync issues with audio/video in DPG. If the last few errors are cleaned up Id be very happy to have this as the final release. I may even write a MPEG4 decoder plugin based on Theora or something... seems pretty light weight, although it does rely on SDL for display, audio and threading.
#73104 - Xtreme - Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:36 am
| MoonShell wrote: |
To Xtreme.
Was the following item tested?
> The processing when synchronization is lost can be chosen. Refer to [DPGPlugin] section of global.ini.
[DPGPlugin]
Dithering=0
GOPSkip=0 |
Sorry, I am so stupid. I did not check that from global.ini.
Now it is working.
I sent you a PM for languagefiles to add.
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#73106 - melw - Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:16 am
| m2pt5 wrote: |
| I haven't had trouble with any midi files playing slow, but I have had a lot play fast. |
I believe, at least to some degree, the midi slowdown problems are because of lot of consecutive midi events taking in place, not sure if it's just any event or the currently unsupported ones - but you can easily hear where there should be a pitchbend, instead you get a straight note accompanied with tempo slowing down.
I'll take a closer look at the midi plugin during the rest of this week, let's see if I can make it any better...
#73110 - idbirch - Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:18 pm
| Xtreme wrote: |
| MoonShell wrote: | To Xtreme.
Was the following item tested?
> The processing when synchronization is lost can be chosen. Refer to [DPGPlugin] section of global.ini.
[DPGPlugin]
Dithering=0
GOPSkip=0 |
Sorry, I am so stupid. I did not check that from global.ini.
Now it is working.
I sent you a PM for languagefiles to add. |
I have tried setting these 2 values to 0 in the global.ini but I still get the horrible dots all over my DPG files. They playback great on 0.999, which I understand to be due to frames being dropped when the CPU can't cope. Is there any reason why 1.0 is not dropping frames?
#73116 - m2pt5 - Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:56 pm
Set Dithering to 0 and GOPskip to 1. I have mine like that, and I get no dithering at all.
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#73119 - idbirch - Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:13 pm
| m2pt5 wrote: |
| Set Dithering to 0 and GOPskip to 1. I have mine like that, and I get no dithering at all. |
I'm not sure whats going on here, but that seems to make no difference at all :(
Also, is it normal that the moonshel nds file (for Supercard) is about half the size it was for 0.999?
#73120 - arlow - Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:21 pm
that is due to the plugin system!!
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#73121 - idbirch - Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:43 pm
| arlow wrote: |
| that is due to the plugin system!! |
OK then!! Thank you very much!!
Does anyone have any idea why setting Dithering=0 in the global.ini isn't having any affect? If the answer could come with a minimal amount of exclamation marks, that would be super.
#73135 - Durandle - Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:02 pm
!!!!
!! !!!!! !!!!! !! !!!!!! ^_^
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You could try deleting your whole shell folder on your Flash card and putting a fresh copy on, then changing the settings.
If that doesn't work, say what settings you use when encoding, its possible one of the options your using is way off.
#73148 - idbirch - Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:42 pm
| Durandle wrote: |
You could try deleting your whole shell folder on your Flash card and putting a fresh copy on, then changing the settings.
If that doesn't work, say what settings you use when encoding, its possible one of the options your using is way off. |
Thanks, I tried a new shell folder, no good. Here's the settings I used in DPGEnc:
PCM Rate: 32000 Bitrate: 112
use ffmpeg.exe Faster method.
Screen width: 256
Aspect ratio: 4:3
Bitrate: 256
Frames: 18
Brightness: 100
Light: 95
Is the bitrate too high? Playing the same 22 minute file on 0.999 looks great but the sound drifts out of sync as time goes on :-/
Edit: After reducing the bitrate right down to 160 and fps to 14, the dithering effect is almost gone but this is now the same problem we had before frameskipping came in. How come frameskipping isn't working in this release (at least for me) and why am i still seeing the dots on high-motion scenes? If the dots were due to dithering, setting dithering=0 in global.ini should stop them, no?
#73166 - Xtreme - Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:47 pm
| m2pt5 wrote: |
| Set Dithering to 0 and GOPskip to 1. I have mine like that, and I get no dithering at all. |
I set dithering=0 and GOPskip=1. The video is more pixelated than with test2nocnt. Has anyone noticed.. I think I'm the only one who can see pixelation. :D I would take pics of these two versions, but now I am too lazy to do it. Moonlight just few post ago said that nothing has changed since test2nocnt, but something has to be. I have no idea what is causing this then.
EDIT: I am wrong. No more pixelation than with test2nocnt.
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#73175 - Durandle - Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:55 pm
Now that we are using MP2 it maybe needing to read more data from the flash card. A bottle-neck in the player can be the speed of access on the flash card. For example, a movie that plays great on my M3 CF (which is very fast) may play really badly on another type of card, which is slower.
As for the pixelation, what is the source aspect ratio, are you outputting at width=256. And, you may want to delete the saved settings for DPGEnc, mine got broken a few versions ago as features got changed and it tried to output a movie at width=32000 0_0
#73180 - Xtreme - Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:37 pm
| Durandle wrote: |
| As for the pixelation, what is the source aspect ratio, are you outputting at width=256. And, you may want to delete the saved settings for DPGEnc, mine got broken a few versions ago as features got changed and it tried to output a movie at width=32000 0_0 |
I am testing with max quality/fps settings and the video is full screen. I have fresh MoonShell files. I will start making some tests after few minutes.
0.999 test2nocnt vs. 1.0 finalbeta
EDIT: test made... Now I have to admit that I cannot reproduce the unpixelation with test2nocnt. I must have mixed some other version with it.. *starts to do more tests*
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#73188 - Durandle - Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:15 pm
You mean your using :
Width : 256
Aspect : 4,3
Bitrate : 256
Frame Rate : 24
?
#73199 - MoonShell - Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:55 pm
Thank you translation.
I added the gotten language file.
http://mdxonline.dyndns.org/dpgenc_langtest.zip
#73200 - Xtreme - Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:56 pm
| Durandle wrote: |
You mean your using :
Width : 256
Aspect : 4,3
Bitrate : 256
Frame Rate : 24
|
Yes. I just tested with 16:9 video and there are more data for the video, so the quality is better.
DS screen is so small so videos can be pan scanned.. still good quality. One thing was that video had slowdowns at the end (maybe because of fragmented flashcard?).
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#73203 - Xtreme - Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:10 pm
| MoonShell wrote: |
Thank you translation.
I added the gotten language file. |
You welcome. :)
Can you make these words also translatable:
| Quote: |
use mencoder.exe A special audio codec doesnt correspond.
use ffmpeg.exe Faster method.
use extrawave.exe DirectShow normal method 128kbyte/block
use extrawave.exe DirectShow alternative method 4byte/block
The demuxed(defrosted) file is used. (MEdiaFilename.wav)
pixels
auto detect
academy size
wide screen
Cinemascope
frames/sec
Deep
Light |
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#73215 - MoonShell - Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:47 pm
I added the 'unit name' etc. to the language item.
http://mdxonline.dyndns.org/dpgenc_langtest.zip
Is my interpretation correct?
It is a little uneasy.
Files other than Japanese tentative inserted an English name.
I apologize for the specification change.
Please add the translation.
#73217 - Durandle - Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:01 pm
Xtreme:
And thus we find the problem :P the DPG Decoder can't play the video your making, its just too much ^_^ If you encoding 4:3 you want to use something like 20 frames a sec and 160 to 180 bitrate. For widescreen you can use 144-160 for the bitrate as there is less data to deal with.
#73219 - Raziel Fireeye - Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:09 pm
Spanish Translation for Dpgencoder Updated ;)
http://dsmagazine.net/dpgenc.ESP.lng
#73222 - Xtreme - Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:33 pm
| Durandle wrote: |
Xtreme:
And thus we find the problem :P the DPG Decoder can't play the video your making, its just too much ^_^ If you encoding 4:3 you want to use something like 20 frames a sec and 160 to 180 bitrate. For widescreen you can use 144-160 for the bitrate as there is less data to deal with. |
Yeah, I did tought that. I want to push the limits. :D
I will do more testing after my sleeps. I will test low framerate and so on.
Oh, and I do have more 16:9 video clips than 4:3.
4:3 is widely used in camcorders here in my country.
MoonShell:
You've got mail.
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#73233 - idbirch - Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:31 am
| Durandle wrote: |
Xtreme:
And thus we find the problem :P the DPG Decoder can't play the video your making, its just too much ^_^ If you encoding 4:3 you want to use something like 20 frames a sec and 160 to 180 bitrate. For widescreen you can use 144-160 for the bitrate as there is less data to deal with. |
This is what I don't get though. I have encoded an episode of 24 at 4:3 aspect ratio, highest resolution/frame rate/bitrate possible and it looks great on Moonshell 0.999 - it must be dropping frames a bit and dithering must be off but it still looks excellent, no nasty dots anywhere. Trouble is, on 0.999 the audio is way out of sync :(
If I play the same file with 1.0 (even with dithering=0 in global.ini) it looks awful - dots everywhere and keeps hanging. Audio is in sync though (when you can see whats going on)
#73238 - Filb - Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:44 am
Good work, I updated the German language file:
http://www.greenchu.de/~temp/dpgenc.GER.lng
#73247 - MoonShell - Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:52 am
Thank you! re-translation.
Spanish and German and Finnish language file updated.
http://mdxonline.dyndns.org/dpgenc_langtest.zip
(edit 11:00 GMT+9 Finnish added.)
#73249 - ssj4android - Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:59 am
Is the 24 hours clock an option in the ini file? If not, do you think you could make it one?
#73253 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:13 am
The translation works perfectly for me when I replace the 0.999 dpgenc with this one. (Keeping intact the dpgencplugin directory).
Also, I'm just making sure that the problem(s) with JPG images is known... is it?
It doesn't appear to be in Xtreme's overview post.
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#73259 - HyperHacker - Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:18 am
Woot!
Things I like about this version:
-Plugins! :D
-The Flexible shoulder buttons option
-Pressing Next doesn't skip other file formats. Playback moves between MP3s and SPCs just fine. Finally I can free up some space by removing MP3s in favour of the SPCs they're made from.
Things I don't like:
-No option to use a 12-hour clock.
-Can't view images on top screen, in full-screen mode, like you can with movies.
Bugs:
-Crashed when I loaded a JPEG! Also took unusually long to decode. The message 'BitStream HuffmanDecodeError' is repeated in the debug log a lot, and I get an image that's just one solid colour. Zooming in or out or scrolling eventually crashes with junk on the screen. File info looks normal.
-Top screen still blanks out when viewing images.
And of course thanks again.
#73260 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:21 am
Would anyone like to explain how this plugin system works?
Is Moonshell processing an actual compiled program in real time?
It's quite an amazing system, anyway...
Just so you know, I'm watching a Star Trek film (which I own on VHS but it's old and decrepit) in Moonshell and it's working brilliantly! About an hour in there are no errors. I'm going to try reencoding it to improve the frame rate and image quality though...
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#73267 - Trinexx - Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:38 am
I just downloaded v1.0 and I can't seemingly get the plugins to work. I was assuming the .msp files just needed to be present in the /shell/plugins folder however every file I try to open .mp3 and .bmp fileskeeps giving me not suppored error.
Any help would be appreciated.
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#73268 - Xtreme - Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:16 am
| idbirch wrote: |
I have encoded an episode of 24 at 4:3 aspect ratio, highest resolution/frame rate/bitrate possible and it looks great on Moonshell 0.999 - it must be dropping frames a bit and dithering must be off but it still looks excellent, no nasty dots anywhere. Trouble is, on 0.999 the audio is way out of sync :(
If I play the same file with 1.0 (even with dithering=0 in global.ini) it looks awful - dots everywhere and keeps hanging. Audio is in sync though (when you can see whats going on) |
Yes, that is the case with 1.0. It has better sync and works better with lower quality (the cost of the synchronization).
When I was testing with best quality/fps setting it did drop frames after every ~1-2minutes.
There must be something wrong, you set dithering=0 and it does not work. I have tested it with fresh version of MoonShell and it works (make sure you aren't using an old ini global.file).
| Mr. Picklesworth wrote: |
Also, I'm just making sure that the problem(s) with JPG images is known... is it?
It doesn't appear to be in Xtreme's overview post. |
Do you mean the one that you can not open every jpg files (jpegs that are not even progressive)?
EDIT: Cleaned a bit my post.
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#73275 - Xtreme - Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:32 am
MoonShell:
I updated my poor translation. It was done at night so it had some typos. I sent you a PM. Check your messages.
I looked at your website and you seem to be making some new experiments. It is very bad translated with google so I am not sure what it is.
It says Timer-B and PDX. hmm. :)
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#73282 - MoonShell - Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:34 am
I added Chinese to dpgenc.
Thank you Fachman!
to Xtreme.
Finnish language file was built into. thanks!
P.S.
When the cancellation button is pushed, dpgenc.ini is not preserved.
and, MDX/PDX is a data format named MXDRV that becomes popular on the computer named X68000 of Japan.
#73287 - Durandle - Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:15 am
If I were to guess as to why it looks so bad, I'd have to say that when it skips a GOP (which is how it syncs when dithering is off) then the frame can get corrupt (as MPEG uses data that proceeds a frame to render the current frame, so when you skip a load of data, the current frame can look horrible). If the video is too high quality then it will skip all the time, making lots of these nasty frames. In 0.999 it didn't skip, but also didn't sync.
This is where the dithering has the advantage... it doesn't miss frames, so you dont get the same problem. Instead you get the fuzzy frames when there is lots of action.
I can only say that making the bitrate/framerate lower is the only real way to fix this. I suppose encoding in VBR maybe better, I've not tested it - I need to find an encoder that support encoding to 20 fps and VBR. Anyone have an idea if Mencoder can encode in VBR? Can't find the option my self.
Moonshell :
An idea for keeping sync. Set the dithering to light and combine it with GOP skip. The combination should work well. Heavy dithering looks really bad, so instead, use the skip. Would this work?
#73305 - Mithos - Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:06 pm
Swedish translation.
http://tehskeen.com/gfx/mithos/dpgenc.SWE.lng
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#73307 - Xtreme - Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:25 pm
Every time I encode I get this message, but the encoding will get complete and the file is working:
| Quote: |
get_path('subfont.ttf') -> 'X:/MoonShell/dpgencplugin/mplayer/subfont.ttf'
New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong.
Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
subtitle font: load_sub_face failed. |
What does that mean?
EDIT: My volume slider is stucked, why?
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#73308 - tuLL - Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:43 pm
| Xtreme wrote: |
Every time I encode I get this message, but the encoding will get complete and the file is working:
| Quote: |
get_path('subfont.ttf') -> 'X:/MoonShell/dpgencplugin/mplayer/subfont.ttf'
New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong.
Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
subtitle font: load_sub_face failed. |
What does that mean?
EDIT: My volume slider is stucked, why? |
It's because you can control the volume while playing the movie on the DS. Using X and Y.
#73312 - Xtreme - Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:21 pm
| tuLL wrote: |
| Xtreme wrote: | | My volume slider is stucked, why? |
It's because you can control the volume while playing the movie on the DS. Using X and Y. |
I mean DPGEncoder volume slider.
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#73316 - Mr. Picklesworth - Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:46 pm
Okay, Moonshell can last playing videos for at least and hour and 30 minutes.
The video was 128 kb/s with 256x128 resolution and 24fps, and it ran beautifully!
However, there seemed to be a constant half-second delay in the sound :(
I'm not sure if this delay was caused by the encoder, me skipping to about a quarter through the film, or simply Moonshell playing it wrong...
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#73317 - melw - Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:42 pm
Standard MIDI file format0 Simple plugin with pitch bend enabled (copy over the old .msp in shell/plugin folder):
http://www.veljeskunta.org/melwyn/nds/smidf0.msp
No other fixes right now, gotta check out what can be done about the inconstant timing next...
#73319 - tssf - Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:15 pm
| melw wrote: |
Standard MIDI file format0 Simple plugin with pitch bend enabled (copy over the old .msp in shell/plugin folder):
http://www.veljeskunta.org/melwyn/nds/smidf0.msp
No other fixes right now, gotta check out what can be done about the inconstant timing next... |
Very Nice, although the pitch bend can be slightly more accurate with pitch bend sensitive-based songs.
Check these out:
http://tssf.i-web.net/Remakes/FF6Stuff/GRANDM.MID
http://tssf.i-web.net/Remakes/FF6Stuff/ff3bbos.mid
It seems the algorythm is off just slightly in some notes (that are being pitch bent, in the middle of one long real midi note). Maybe that's Timidity's fault though?
Also, no offence to the author of the plugin/Timidity, but I seriously hate that isntrument bank. I was wondering if I could provide a better GM one? Since MoonShell can only play one file at a time, it wouldn't matter if the sample library were over 1 megabyte right?
What's the sample library's format anyway? I assume it's GUS Patches (OLD) or does it support a dumbed-down SF2 format?
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#73330 - MoonShell - Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:44 pm
Thank you Mithos!
Swedish language file added.
to Xtreme.
The MP2 audio encode is converted directly.
SourceVariableFormat -> LinerPCM(and VolumeProcess) -> GSM convert.
SourceVariableFormat -> MP2 convert.
Therefore, the volume was not able to be converted.
I plan to detach the volume option in Ver1.0.
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I welcome the plug-in developer excluding me very much. It is very joyous.
to Durandle.
I changed the dithering option.
Please review 'global.ini' the under.
http://mdxonline.dyndns.org/mshldithercnt.zip
#73332 - Xtreme - Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:05 pm
| MoonShell wrote: |
The MP2 audio encode is converted directly.
SourceVariableFormat -> LinerPCM(and VolumeProcess) -> GSM convert.
SourceVariableFormat -> MP2 convert. |
Ok, thank you for that explanation. :)
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#73335 - tuLL - Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:43 pm
| Xtreme wrote: |
| tuLL wrote: | | Xtreme wrote: | | My volume slider is stucked, why? |
It's because you can control the volume while playing the movie on the DS. Using X and Y. |
I mean DPGEncoder volume slider. |
I understood what you meant. But being able to change the volume while playing the video, should fix the problem right? :)
#73337 - Xtreme - Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:10 pm
| tuLL wrote: |
| I understood what you meant. But being able to change the volume while playing the video, should fix the problem right? :) |
Actually the sound in my videos are too quiet. I even turn the DS volume to the highest level and also the MoonShell volume, but it is still too quiet.
I can make it louder manually (with other video/audio tools), but I would like to see DPG Encoder doing it (normalizing) internally. :)
EDIT: I just noticed that I can set more than 100% for volume in MoonShell. I have tought that 100% is the max for video. *lol* Not for MP2 audio.
That 1.0finalbeta2 (mshldithercnt) has the quarter dithering, seems to work just great with madagascar penguins. :)
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#73354 - MoonShell - Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:06 am
Hi Mithos.
http://mdxonline.dyndns.org/dpgenc.SWE.lng.zip
This is GizmoTheGreen edited version.
It cannot judge which is better for me.
Which is more comprehensible?
#73364 - MoonShell - Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:21 am
#73365 - Alucard258 - Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:14 am
Ok so um, how do I get the plugins to work?
#73371 - Puppet - Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:40 am
Not sure what you use to run homebrew, but this is how you get it working with a GBAMP (not sure if it works the same for M3, SC, flashcarts,....):
Go to your Moonshell folder (on your PC) and go to the 'files_EXFS' folder, then copy the shell folder to the root of your card.
#73376 - dangkict - Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:57 am
Hi Moonshell, Moonlight
I have many pictures. These pictures have large dimension. When I see these picture can I lock the zoom ratio or not? I have to change the zoom ratio for every picture, it takes much time.
If Moonshell have a auto fit to screen function, that will be great.
Thanks.
#73381 - tepples - Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:31 am
Even better would be to draw the image zoomed out on one screen and zoomed in on the other.
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#73393 - HyperHacker - Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:09 am
I noticed while playing MP3s, it seems to be much louder than previous versions. Also when playing SPCs, they don't fade out at the end.
#73409 - Nuja - Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:21 pm
HI everybody,
I would like to thank Moonshell for his hard work.
I would like to know if Moonshell has advises (setting in global.ini and with dpgenc.exe) to make a converted video (good quality, which doesn't get out of sync) for this kind of video:
Japanese Animation, 24mins/232MO
By the way if someone else have good advises, I'm taking them.
Thank in advance.
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#73414 - Mithos - Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:51 pm
Only 1 line thats diffrent from my original..
Personally I dont think his is better, BUT I took his suggestion/edit and changed it a little bit to make it more understandable in my opinion.
Updated Swedish translation (Mithos + GizmoTheGreen):
http://tehskeen.com/gfx/mithos/dpgenc.SWE.lng
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#73424 - Mr. Picklesworth - Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:49 pm
Nuja:
Moonshell seems able to handle feature-length films at 24 FPS, 256x128 resolution, and 192 kb/s video bitrate.
That may be because of the speed of my CF card, though. (It's 40x).
It's probably best to just play around and figure out what suits you best. You should keep the framerate the same as on the original video, if possible. Also, if you're aiming for quality, it's a good idea to get the highest screen resolution possible.
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#73442 - Mr. Picklesworth - Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:19 pm
Version 1.0 is now out...
(Sorry about the double post... it doesn't seem to be deleteable anymore...)
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#73446 - falcon!!! - Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:46 pm
ther's a new thread...
#73447 - Mr. Picklesworth - Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:08 pm
No there isn't -- this one is still the sticky one.
(Yes, I'm being a nitwit).
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#73449 - falcon!!! - Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:24 pm
yes there is. and it's sticky ;)
#73452 - Mr. Picklesworth - Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:33 pm
Well, it is now.
I'll move my post, since this thread will surely be abandoned :P
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