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DS Misc > Nintendo planning to release another DS(not lite)?

#73588 - zubiac - Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:59 pm

wtf is this patent?

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A new patent published by the US Patent & Trademark Office for Nintendo Co. Ltd. on Feb. 2nd, 2006 has revealed an interesting new DS model, a touch panel on which at least two pointing positions are simultaneously detectable report advancedmn.

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BREAKING: Recently published patent reveals a special secret about a new Nintendo DS model.

A new patent published by the US Patent & Trademark Office for Nintendo Co. Ltd. on Feb. 2nd, 2006 has revealed an interesting new DS model.

Seeing as how the patent was originally drafted on Jul 29, 2004, and filed on July 19, 2005, there is no real way of telling whether the DS model featured in the patents is simply a prototype for the DS/DS Lite or a third DS model. The patent could theoretically have been edited by Nintendo in some way since the initial drafting as well. The important thing is the functionality mentioned in the patent. First off, here is the patent illustration of the new DS:
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As you can see, this resembles no other DS model that has been announced. Additionally, the cartridges used for the system resemble SD cards much more than the current DS game cards, and the X and Y buttons have been removed.

What's even more interesting is what it says in the description of the new DS model:
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A game apparatus includes a touch panel on which at least two pointing positions are simultaneously detectable.

So, either the DS Lite will have multiple touch functions that have yet to be announced, or another DS is in the works to be launched at some point after the DS Lite.



I guess it is the prototype of the DS but what about the missing 2 buttons and the "2 point positions"-touchscreen?
maybe the lite has indeed this new touchscreen?
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#73589 - Mr. Picklesworth - Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:05 pm

Hm... sounds like the next GameBoy. In fact, I'm amazed that the speculations don't think that, since it's obviously not a direct successor to NDS.
The mono sound and the fewer buttons seems to suggest that.
Two point touch screen is a nice idea, but I think it's nearly useless considering it would require use of both hands, and the system only has one stylus. It could be interesting, though. Definietly expands upon the touch screen in a good way.
I wonder if perhaps this system's games would be compatible with the (probably) more expensive regular DS.
The SD-shaped card also brings up speculations of all sorts. Maybe it is an SD card, and it'll have a multimedia viewer!


Now, what would be really cool, and would probably sell the thing to me, would be if those two sections with buttons could detach from the unit :)
(Though they're probably just like that because it's an illustration...)
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#73591 - zubiac - Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:18 pm

Mr. Picklesworth wrote:
Hm... sounds like the next GameBoy. In fact, I'm amazed that the speculations don't think that, since it's obviously not a direct successor to NDS.

The SD-shaped card also brings up speculations of all sorts. Maybe it is an SD card, and it'll have a multimedia viewer!


a gba successor with only 2 friggin' buttons? NO way.

SD-cards as medium....mmmh....
maybe Ninty releases an open-source "Gameboy DS" like GP2X.
now that would rock
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#73603 - tepples - Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:38 pm

Nintendo SD: What is wrong with this picture?
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#73608 - Xtreme984 - Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:58 pm

I call a hoax, this kinda design looks like something I've seen before (maybe one of the DS Lite speculations???) I dunno for sure though.

#73616 - zzo38computer - Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:15 pm

tepples wrote:
Nintendo SD: What is wrong with this picture?


Well, for one thing, the picture is mirrored
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#73617 - tepples - Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:24 pm

Likewise, the bottom screen area of the patent drawing is mirrored front-to-back from a GBA.
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#73618 - MaHe - Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:27 pm

Read the logo. Nintendo SD.

BTW, that really reminds me of the 'famous' Nintendo DS 2 fan mockup ...

#73638 - CubeGuy - Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:14 am

If the patent was filed that long ago, I think it's safe to assume that it was the original plan for the DS. They most likely dropped the two-touch option (price issues?) and added the X and Y buttons before revealing it.
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#73668 - iceman7 - Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:04 am

CubeGuy wrote:
If the patent was filed that long ago, I think it's safe to assume that it was the original plan for the DS. They most likely dropped the two-touch option (price issues?) and added the X and Y buttons before revealing it.


you're right, i read this on a website

joystiq.com wrote:
"A patent application filed on Jul 29, 2004 which was granted to Nintendo on Feb 2nd, 2006 reveals Nintendo's aborted plans for a multi-touch capable DS. "


so it's old, and nintendo decided not to go for a multi touchscreen, probably because of the price of that screen

#73670 - Xtreme - Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:44 am

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A patent application filed on Jul 29, 2004 which was granted to Nintendo on Feb 2nd, 2006 reveals Nintendo's aborted plans for a multi-touch capable DS.

Ok, that's a Nintendo DS Lite.
That's the reason why they didn't release DS Lite earlier. Maybe they wanted the wait for approval of their patent?
Btw, this was only speculation.
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#73777 - HyperHacker - Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:05 am

That would explain it. For Nintendo to release something with less buttons than the DS would seem rather dumb, and mono sound, while not really a big issue, would probably upset people too. I know I heard rumours about being able to do things that would require multi-touch with the DS, such as pressing a coin on the screen to make a 'charcoal' rub-effect. Also I believe touch screens capable of sensing multiple touches are fairly new, and thus probably quite expensive.

#74002 - M3d10n - Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:18 pm

I didn't know multi-touch was that expensive to implement.

I saw a video a while ago of a new multi-touch capable LCD, and it was quite neat. They were demonstrating experimental interfaces using the new screen, and it looked very useful for graphic editing. In the demo they could rotate images by touching two or more points at the same time and rotating, as would do with a real piece of paper. Resizing was also done in a similar fashion, not to mention it was possible to drag as many windows/objects as you could touch, and properly use on-screen keyboards naturally.

#74014 - iceman7 - Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:39 pm

yeah....i saw that video too, that was awesome :)

#74032 - jake2431 - Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:38 pm

Where is this video? I would like to watch it. Anyone have a link?

#74034 - SeanMon - Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:05 pm

http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ has the movie.

#74040 - M3d10n - Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:02 pm

Now that I've read about it, looks like this screen uses a new (and apparently cheaper) technique. Probably the technology avaliable for multi-touch when Nintendo filled that patent was way too expensive.

#74044 - HtheB - Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:47 pm

M3d10n wrote:
Now that I've read about it, looks like this screen uses a new (and apparently cheaper) technique. Probably the technology avaliable for multi-touch when Nintendo filled that patent was way too expensive.
WOOOOW :D
thats VERY cool! :)

#74046 - swimgod - Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:55 pm

SeanMon wrote:
http://mrl.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/ has the movie.


that is CRAZY cool...
i wish i had that on my computer :D
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#74073 - radical_ratzor - Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:29 am

Has anyone else noticed that this looks a hell of a lot like one of the fake or 'fan-made' prototypes for the DS? I remember seeing one that looks a lot like it.

*remembers the 20+ screen DS proto* :'-)
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#74074 - tepples - Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:35 am

radical_ratzor wrote:
*remembers the 20+ screen DS proto* :'-)

This one, right?
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#74080 - GragonSon - Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:03 am

No, I think he means this one

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#74122 - Nushio - Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:41 pm

I'm pretty sure he meant the Nintendo BS, rather than the fan made DSLite.

#74267 - MechaBouncer - Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:48 pm

The multi-touch idea is cool (and great find on that demo), but I can't see piloting an Arwing like that. Besides, I'd be much happier with something like that DS2 and it's nifty (albeit still bulky) "Pocket Mode".
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#74462 - HyperHacker - Sun Mar 05, 2006 9:31 am

Yeah, that is pretty awesome.
M3d10n wrote:
I didn't know multi-touch was that expensive to implement.

I'm sure the technology is cheap, but it's new, so they'd have to pay a pretty penny for it anyway.

#74560 - MechaBouncer - Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:25 pm

Looking through some more Nintendo patents, this shows up a lot along with things for built-in rumble features and other things. Then again, they also had a patent for a GBA game using a tilt-gyro and it used an image of the original GBA. So these very well could be out-dated patents on things for the original DS. A lot of Nintendo stuff has "Patent Pending" on it. Why they would be filed now, though...
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