#76173 - ?hr - Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:53 pm
#76174 - Mr. Picklesworth - Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:21 pm
How?
Isn't the entire visual end handled by the DS, with the M3 simply supplying data?
As far as I know (which, mind, isn't very far), the M3 would have no way to get this information...
Edit: I suppose it is plausible, but having it run reliably may be a bit complicated.
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#76177 - cory1492 - Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:46 pm
M3 could indeed do something like that, a patch similar to the reset patch could be used that jumps to some code that dumps the screens raw data to files on the SD card, unfortunately this would only work on things that they can currently patch (and their focus is definitely not homebrew patching). Also, the currently running file name is stored in the M3's internal memory so that it knows where to backup the SRAM to on the next boot.
edit:/ after having a look around, I think I'd much wrather sign a petition for them to get homebrew running "properly" on the M3/G6 first...
#76180 - ?hr - Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:36 am
#76181 - tepples - Sun Mar 19, 2006 1:48 am
"Blackmail" would work almost as well as a petition. Without proper homebrew support, the devices are good only for running backups, which may not be a substantial non-infringing use. Start with a polite request for help in developing libraries to read and write a file system from homebrew software, and after the third denial: "Please help us out with the library so that we don't have to ask for help from Nintendo or the feds." And because we're requesting something that we have a colorable right to have under U.S. copyright law as interpreted in Betamax and Grokster, such a prelude to a cease-and-desist notice is likely not to be considered criminal blackmail.
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#76213 - melw - Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:41 pm
I'm with Tepples here. Even if I have a M3SD, I'm not going to sign this petition and can't see how it'd help the situation. What I miss most is the FAT lib support for M3SD, but perhaps contributing to Chism's library would be a more useful move towards the community than signing any shortsighted petitions.
#76216 - tssf - Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:21 pm
There's really no point to these petitions. We should make a petition where they stop making pizza with dough. I mean, what's up with THAT?
I'm willing to bet that their compatibility issue is within their launcher software..which I really don't care about, because pretty soon they're switching to MoonShell, which is 100 times better, anyway.
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#76229 - tepples - Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:27 pm
Startup code isn't the entire compatibility issue. Much of the issue involves reading and writing sectors on the SD card. Is there already public working source code for a sector I/O driver?
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#76231 - HtheB - Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:54 pm
hi ?hr... signed both :P
#76240 - ?hr - Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:56 pm
nice
#76241 - HtheB - Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:58 pm
#76250 - ?hr - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:04 pm
| HtheB wrote: |
sure is ;)
:D |
just what i said :D
#76251 - HtheB - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:17 pm
| ?hr GmbH wrote: |
| HtheB wrote: | sure is ;)
:D |
just what i said :D |
spammer
EDIT: :D :D :D lol :D
#76252 - ?hr - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:19 pm
| HtheB wrote: |
| ?hr GmbH wrote: | | HtheB wrote: | sure is ;)
:D |
just what i said :D |
spammer
EDIT: :D :D :D lol :D |
where?
#76253 - HtheB - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:20 pm
over there :P
#76254 - ?hr - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:20 pm
| HtheB wrote: |
| over there :P |
ahh you?
#76255 - HtheB - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:22 pm
i didnt say ovre here..
but over there..
so you are the one :D
#76256 - ?hr - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:23 pm
no, that was my mother!
#76257 - HtheB - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:24 pm
| ?hr GmbH wrote: |
| no, that was my mother! |
oooh.. thats not very nice... :D
your mother must read the topic rules :D
lol
#76258 - ?hr - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:26 pm
wait i call her :D
My Mum: Go in you fucking bed! asshole!
#76259 - HtheB - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:30 pm
oh that is not so nice from your mother :O
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#76260 - tepples - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:34 pm
Note to self: Clean up after the kids are done playing.
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#76261 - HtheB - Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:36 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| Note to self: Clean up after the kids are done playing. |
he started :O
;) oke.. enough... :)
#76377 - cory1492 - Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:55 am
tepples:
| Quote: |
| Without proper homebrew support, the devices are good only for running backups, which may not be a substantial non-infringing use. Start with a polite request for help in developing libraries to read and write a file system from homebrew software |
I asked them (politely) for info/public support for using their devices with a FAT type system like chishm's library, and it has been ignored entirely (approx 6 weeks ago now). (consider this: M3 is region locked, the DS is not...does this sound like a step to support any community effort?)
So far as I see, reading sectors on the SD isnt a problem, and read/write sectors on the CF isnt a problem. With limited experimentation using current FAT from chishm (uncommenting the write stuff), SD writes erase the bootstrap (making the card not recognizeable by windows) but does indeed write what you tell it to the SD.
PS: just because they are moving to moonshell does not mean they will use moonshells .nds start routines. They could very well just be transplanting that from their "old" kernel sources wrather than improving it.
?hr: Ill have to sign that one now (or eat my words...hehe)
#76379 - tepples - Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:43 am
| cory1492 wrote: |
| I asked [M3 manufacturer] (politely) for info/public support for using their devices with a FAT type system like chishm's library, and it has been ignored entirely (approx 6 weeks ago now). |
Perhaps it was lost in the mail. I would find this especially likely given the inselectivity of current spam trapping technology. Have you followed up on this request?
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