#85622 - HtheB - Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:18 am
Hi, I have a question..
Do you guys think that it's possible to make a Voipbuster/InternetCalls cli?nt for the DS?
www.voipbuster.com www.internetcalls.com
for those who dont know these programs:
you can make phone calls from your PC to a real phone.. for FREE (land lines and in some countries even to mobile phones)
Free Calls (Landline) VoipBuster:
Andorra, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Croatia, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Greece, Hong Kong, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Monaco, Mongolia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Panama, Peru, Portugal, Puerto Rico, Singapore, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Venezuela.
Free Calls (Landline) InternetCalls:
Andorra, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Croatia, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Gibraltar, Hong Kong, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Monaco, Mongolia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Panama, Poland, Puerto Rico, Russian Federation, Singapore, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom, United States, Venezuela.
(I prefer InternetCalls b/c it got more countries that are free, like: Germany, Russia, Turkey, UK, US)
It will be awsome to make a cli?nt for the DS so you can call someone from the DS :)
anyone??? :)
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#85627 - Dan2552 - Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:29 am
woah, is this true? with this can i phone any landline in UK without having to pay anything!?
Awesome if DS got this, but i doubt it.
Is anyone making a DS chat with the microphone? like metroid hunters in the lobby?
#85629 - HtheB - Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:34 am
| Dan2552 wrote: |
woah, is this true? with this can i phone any landline in UK without having to pay anything!?
Awesome if DS got this, but i doubt it.
Is anyone making a DS chat with the microphone? like metroid hunters in the lobby? |
yeah on your PC :)
but you can dial 1 min. and it will close >.< but if you have some credit (?1 is more then enough) you can call 24 hours a day ;)
I call Turkey every day :D
#85630 - Dan2552 - Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:36 am
dial 1 min and then dial again then :p
or am i missing something?
#85632 - HtheB - Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:37 am
| Dan2552 wrote: |
dial 1 min and then dial again then :p
or am i missing something? |
yeha.. you missed my post just be4 u posted :D
#85639 - wintermute - Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:04 pm
| Dan2552 wrote: |
dial 1 min and then dial again then :p
or am i missing something? |
like that will ever lead to a useful conversation :P
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#85640 - Dan2552 - Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:25 pm
who talks on the phone for more than a minute anyway :s
#85646 - MaHe - Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:59 pm
W00t, Slovenia is supported :o
My god, we never got any support from the companies :D
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#85654 - jester - Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:04 pm
But the main question is is projext underway and if so can it be done?
#85657 - MaHe - Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:23 pm
It could be ... if the InternetCall team would release the protocol's technical info :/
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#85660 - shaz - Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:35 pm
Oh crap! I just tryed Internet call and I dialed my home phone and it actually rung!!! This is so nang!
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#85668 - D-loader - Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:53 pm
true, we can't make anything without a protocol release =/
#85675 - HyperHacker - Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:54 pm
I'd be quite surprised to not find a load of spyware in those. Which if nothing else means you're not likely to get the protocol from them by asking.
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#85680 - shaz - Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:44 pm
There is no spyware at all.
Btw both of them are from the same people...
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#85688 - D-loader - Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:54 pm
the layout is extremely identical.. but why does "Internet Calls" have more free destinations then?.. if they're from the same company?
#85691 - HtheB - Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:26 pm
| D-loader wrote: |
| the layout is extremely identical.. but why does "Internet Calls" have more free destinations then?.. if they're from the same company? |
well they actually got even MORE programs..
they are 6 :D
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Finarea+SA
here is a wiki of Finarea SA (the company name of the programs);)
read it :)
#85694 - D-loader - Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:43 pm
that... is scary somehow
its like.. something is not right about it
#85695 - HtheB - Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:44 pm
| D-loader wrote: |
that... is scary somehow
its like.. something is not right about it |
no.. its not :)
i use it for more than a year now.. its so cool :)
#85697 - D-loader - Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:54 pm
yeah yeah, but I mean all these diffrent versions.. all having the same roots, but totally diffrent numbers of "free" destinations.. is this more of a consept that companies can buy or something?
#85703 - Liquidnumb - Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:37 pm
There could be any number of legal reasons for having different software for different international calling destinations. Each of these different countries have their own laws, codes, and penalties. I think it's not only possible, but even likely that they needed to form separate entities to cover a wider area without running into legal troubles over two countries which don't agree on how a company or it's software should operate.
On the other hand, I know virtually nothing about telecommunication laws or practices beyond my own home.
#85711 - CoolkcaH - Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:14 pm
Actually you can use SIP, it's a known and open protocol and is accepted by all this services. See http://www.voipbuster.com/en/sip.html for the voipbuster sip server, or http://www.sipdiscount.com/en/index.html from the same company.
SIP info: www.voip-info.org/wiki-SIP
http://www.sipfoundry.org/index.html
#85769 - Xtreme - Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:13 am
http://www.voipbuster.com/en/voip-in.html
| Quote: |
Getting your Phone Number:
We're still beta testing this service, so getting a phone number is only available after you sign in to your Account page. Only accounts with a positive balance are eligible for a personal phone number. |
You ask me how do they make profit. :D
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#85795 - HtheB - Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:25 am
so if we can make a SIP thingy for the DS.. we could use the voipbuster and internetcalls (and all those other programs) ? :)
#85821 - D-loader - Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:44 pm
| HtheB wrote: |
| so if we can make a SIP thingy for the DS.. we could use the voipbuster and internetcalls (and all those other programs) ? :) |
exactly
you "only" need to make a SIP client for the DS, and let it enter with the following settings:
| Code: |
Settings
Username: Your VoipBuster username
Password: Your VoipBuster password
SIP/Proxy registrar: sip.voipbuster.com
Domain/Realm (optional): voipbuster.com
STUN server: stun.voipbuster.com |
#85832 - HtheB - Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:42 pm
so.. whos interested for this project? :D
#85894 - spacepirate - Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:43 pm
I would really like to see someone make a VoIP program for DS... I only wish I had the coding knowledge to do it myself.
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#85896 - D-loader - Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:54 pm
I saw a few SIP clients on SourceForge, maybe someone would be interested in making a port
#85923 - HtheB - Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:44 am
@spacepirate: thats the same over here too :(
@D-loader: ME!!!!! (but I'm a n00b in programming :( )
#85990 - spacepirate - Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:42 pm
All I know is Visual Basic (no comment) and an iota of C/C++. I'm in the process of learning to code for the DS because I'd really love to start creating some DS homebrew.
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#86034 - HtheB - Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:07 am
| spacepirate wrote: |
| All I know is Visual Basic (no comment) and an iota of C/C++. I'm in the process of learning to code for the DS because I'd really love to start creating some DS homebrew. |
so do I :)
#86082 - Bobshoe - Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:44 am
| HtheB wrote: |
| spacepirate wrote: | | All I know is Visual Basic (no comment) and an iota of C/C++. I'm in the process of learning to code for the DS because I'd really love to start creating some DS homebrew. |
so do I :) |
And So do I.
This sounds like a fantastic project.
#86095 - chishm - Sun Jun 04, 2006 12:39 pm
| spacepirate wrote: |
| All I know is Visual Basic (no comment) and an iota of C/C++. |
When I read "iota", I saw it as "itoa". I think I've been coding in C for too long.
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#86103 - HtheB - Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:08 pm
| chishm wrote: |
| spacepirate wrote: | | All I know is Visual Basic (no comment) and an iota of C/C++. |
When I read "iota", I saw it as "itoa". I think I've been coding in C for too long. |
hahaha ^_^
@Bobshoe:
so.. you want to join the project? :D
#87009 - Bobshoe - Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:35 pm
Yeah Hi HtheB.
Well it sounds very interesting.
Thing is, I do not really have too much C++ experiance (but a fair bit of VB stuff.)
Chishm, reminds me once of when I was just coding a bit of C++, and then went to get some torrents. Instead of Isohunt.com, I typed Isostream.com. xD
#87095 - spacepirate - Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:25 pm
Hmm... assuming I'm still in on this, where do we start then? :D
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#87096 - MaHe - Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:42 pm
Well, ugh, if you have no coding experience, you won't come anywhere.
Don't ashame yourself just as Alias-Zero did with his HelloDS "project". ;)
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#87123 - spacepirate - Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:37 am
I have no DS coding experience. Well not that much, anyways. And I'm not really worried about making a fool of myself on the Internet, because I'm not forced to see any of you every day, it's voluntary.
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#87146 - HtheB - Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:15 am
I think we really need some experts for this project XD
#87161 - D-loader - Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:39 pm
| MaHe wrote: |
Well, ugh, if you have no coding experience, you won't come anywhere.
Don't ashame yourself just as Alias-Zero did with his HelloDS "project". ;) |
Is it comfirmed fake now, after his site have gone down?
#87173 - spacepirate - Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:03 pm
HtheB: Yeah, I agree XD
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#87174 - MaHe - Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:07 pm
| HtheB wrote: |
| I think we really need some experts for this project XD |
Maybe, MAYBE you can convince DragonMinded that he includes a SIP client in his DSOrganize :P
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#87185 - HtheB - Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:08 pm
| MaHe wrote: |
| HtheB wrote: | | I think we really need some experts for this project XD |
Maybe, MAYBE you can convince DragonMinded that he includes a SIP client in his DSOrganize :P |
well.. we can ask him :)
| D-loader wrote: |
| I saw a few SIP clients on SourceForge, maybe someone would be interested in making a port |
Yeah I saw it too :)
so... that means its more easy for him? :D
#87217 - D-loader - Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:02 pm
| HtheB wrote: |
| D-loader wrote: | | I saw a few SIP clients on SourceForge, maybe someone would be interested in making a port |
Yeah I saw it too :)
so... that means its more easy for him? :D |
If he decide to go with it, then yeah.. most likely
#87222 - HtheB - Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:10 pm
lets all *spam* DragonMinded so he include a SIP in his DSorganise xD
#87291 - spacepirate - Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:12 am
Heh, sounds good. We can at least all email him.
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#87406 - HtheB - Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:41 pm
| spacepirate wrote: |
| Heh, sounds good. We can at least all email him. |
who spammed him allready? :D
#87487 - spacepirate - Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:42 am
What's his email address?
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#87524 - HtheB - Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:35 am
| spacepirate wrote: |
| What's his email address? |
http://www.youngmx.com/?loc=Contact
check this out :)
#91100 - thejoker - Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:29 pm
I'm sorry to make this topic coming up, but... I was wondering: finally, is there any SIP homebrew project currently?
It would be so exciting!... :)
#91115 - D-loader - Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:56 pm
I can imagine there wouldn't be, untill the wifi-lib is more stable and such
#91124 - HtheB - Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:33 pm
| D-loader wrote: |
| I can imagine there wouldn't be, untill the wifi-lib is more stable and such |
:'( :'( :'( I want it too :'(
#91125 - thejoker - Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:35 pm
Oh, what a pity... :(
Thank you anyway for your answer.
Have you got any idea of when such a homebrew could be made? In 2007?
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#91218 - HtheB - Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:56 am
| thejoker wrote: |
Oh, what a pity... :(
Thank you anyway for your answer.
Have you got any idea of when such a homebrew could be made? In 2007? |
I think this stuff will be done while we still are still in 2006 i hope :D
#92392 - thejoker - Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:17 am
So, we can just hope you will be right! :)
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#101858 - HtheB - Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:31 pm
I THINK WE HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS ALL!!!!
I contacted Wengo ( www.wengo.com )
(Wengo is a program which you can call just like skype and voipbuster.. you get free ?2,- when you register.. (and when your credit expires.. just make a new account xD ))
and they will work on this :D
I suggested to make it free to download..
I will w8 for their upcoming answers.. :)
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MAIL TO WENGO:
As many off you know the handheld console: Nintendo DS
I suggest to port Wengo to the DS..
There are many programs ported allready to it..
(like the MSN Messenger for the DS, called "beup")
This would be awsome for all DS users with a flashcard.
(you can put files on your flashcard so you can play homebrew made programs/files on it )
many guys really want this :(
I hope you will make this dream come true! |
| Code: |
Mail back:
Thanks for your suggestion.
I transfer to the technical service. |
(I cut it a bit)
who knows.. maybe we STILL get a real voip for the DS! :)
#101868 - KTy - Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:13 pm
French ISP "Free" (Iliad) is offering SIP functionality to any of its numerous clients. For 30?/month we have Up to 28Mbps, 100+ TV channels, unlimited calls in France on "normal" phone and also unlimited calls to 30+ countries, including mobile phones in some case (US, Canada,...etc), we are also lent a "Freebox" modem, HD ready, 40Go hard-drive, MIMO like protocols, Wifi...etc
So, to summarize, "Free" rules. http://adsl.free.fr
All of this to come up to say: I really want a SIP client for my DS because I could use it freely anywhere in the world !!! :)
#101894 - HtheB - Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:08 pm
| KTy wrote: |
French ISP "Free" (Iliad) is offering SIP functionality to any of its numerous clients. For 30?/month we have Up to 28Mbps, 100+ TV channels, unlimited calls in France on "normal" phone and also unlimited calls to 30+ countries, including mobile phones in some case (US, Canada,...etc), we are also lent a "Freebox" modem, HD ready, 40Go hard-drive, MIMO like protocols, Wifi...etc
So, to summarize, "Free" rules. http://adsl.free.fr
All of this to come up to say: I really want a SIP client for my DS because I could use it freely anywhere in the world !!! :) |
if you read the title.. it allready says SIP...
and Voipbuster is actually better..
it has SO many countries that you can call for free
#101917 - TJ - Fri Sep 08, 2006 11:35 pm
Uh, that's great and all, but them saying "Thanks for your suggestion." means absolutely nothing at all. They would have responded the same way no matter what you had suggested.
#101968 - HtheB - Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:56 am
| TJ wrote: |
| Uh, that's great and all, but them saying "Thanks for your suggestion." means absolutely nothing at all. They would have responded the same way no matter what you had suggested. |
got anoter message....
I will contact the developers now :)
(oh btw.. this program is OPEN SOURCE.... so WE could make it too..!!!)
#102136 - quadomatic - Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:29 am
"I transfer to the technical service" means he's transferring it to his recycle bin
#102150 - HtheB - Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:03 am
| quadomatic wrote: |
| "I transfer to the technical service" means he's transferring it to his recycle bin |
HAHAHA no, offcourse not :D
I made contact with the peoples over there (live chat support blabla)
and.. I'm telling you.. it's going the good way :)
no more info for the public (yet)
xD
#103527 - pas - Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:01 pm
Any Progress ?
#103545 - Alias-Zero - Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:26 pm
| MaHe wrote: |
Well, ugh, if you have no coding experience, you won't come anywhere.
Don't ashame yourself just as Alias-Zero did with his HelloDS "project". ;) |
Hrm, I was bound to see my name in such a topic.
Ouch, MaHe are you still talking out of you ass about me? Don't comment unless you know the facts. :)
//
To the person who mentioned my site, it went down because the person whom was paying for the hosting, stopped paying. They were letting me leech off of their space, and there's nothing I can do about them cancelling it. :)
#103653 - MaHe - Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:43 pm
3/4 of the homebrew community doesn't believe you anymore, AZ.
All you served us was some stupid interface. Half an hour of work. ANYONE can do that. >.<
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#103657 - Alias-Zero - Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:27 pm
| MaHe wrote: |
3/4 of the homebrew community doesn't believe you anymore, AZ.
All you served us was some stupid interface. Half an hour of work. ANYONE can do that. >.< |
Hrm? The problem wasn't people not believing me, I could really care less if you believe me or not, or anybody else for that matter. The problem was you talking out of your ass about me.
You don't know what happened to it, so don't comment unless you know the facts.
#103688 - pas - Sat Sep 23, 2006 9:40 pm
@alias-zero:
Your Hosting Space got down ? Try www.zoomshare.com it offers 50 MB FREE Space, wouldn't this reach ? If you got another problem please explain me...
Greets:
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#103693 - jester - Sat Sep 23, 2006 10:07 pm
well is this project still going ahead stop arguing u guys this is forum not a ring!
#103706 - Alias-Zero - Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:42 pm
| pas wrote: |
@alias-zero:
Your Hosting Space got down ? Try www.zoomshare.com it offers 50 MB FREE Space, wouldn't this reach ? If you got another problem please explain me...
Greets:
pas |
Finding hosting isn't an issue for me, I was merely explaining why my old site went down. When the hosting was cancelled, I also lost the db's the site and forum used, and I didn't feel like erecting another site.
Thanks anyways, though. :)
#103742 - jester - Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:46 am
well any progress on the VOIP project?
#103745 - TheYak - Sun Sep 24, 2006 9:52 am
If you've got code worked out, maybe it might be of some use to Infantile Paralyzer (or vice versa, since he shares source) for his voice chat app.
#103809 - tepples - Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:33 pm
| Alias-Zero wrote: |
| and I didn't feel like erecting another site. |
Not feeling like erecting another site seems to be part of the reason that people assume that your project is fake.
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#103837 - Alias-Zero - Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:03 pm
| tepples wrote: |
| Alias-Zero wrote: | | and I didn't feel like erecting another site. |
Not feeling like erecting another site seems to be part of the reason that people assume that your project is fake. |
Well switching hosts and having to remake the site 3 times was a little tiring, not to mention an un-needed hassle, considering the site offered nothing to my project in terms of functionality.
It would have been wasted time that could have been well spent doing other things. Surely, you agree.
#103857 - GamenLegend - Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:12 am
| Alias-Zero wrote: |
| tepples wrote: | | Alias-Zero wrote: | | and I didn't feel like erecting another site. |
Not feeling like erecting another site seems to be part of the reason that people assume that your project is fake. |
Well switching hosts and having to remake the site 3 times was a little tiring, not to mention an un-needed hassle, considering the site offered nothing to my project in terms of functionality.
It would have been wasted time that could have been well spent doing other things. Surely, you agree. |
Is your so called project even still alive?
#103889 - Alias-Zero - Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:58 am
| GamenLegend wrote: |
| Alias-Zero wrote: | | tepples wrote: | | Alias-Zero wrote: | | and I didn't feel like erecting another site. |
Not feeling like erecting another site seems to be part of the reason that people assume that your project is fake. |
Well switching hosts and having to remake the site 3 times was a little tiring, not to mention an un-needed hassle, considering the site offered nothing to my project in terms of functionality.
It would have been wasted time that could have been well spent doing other things. Surely, you agree. |
Is your so called project even still alive? |
It died quite some time ago, actually. It was 'functional' to an extent, but wasn't practical in the mess I created. In the end I did try to scrape something out of it (HDSF/HDSI/HDSC), shortly after that was announced, it died due to frustration and time focused on a different project.
It was kind of over 'hyped'(?), that added some drawback to the whole project, I didn't want, nor was expecting any of it. It was a personal project of mine, and the spam and disrespect I got from some was uncalled for.
So yeah, whatever! Think of me what you will. I'm done. :)
#104459 - KTy - Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:53 am
Release the source then...
Anyway, what we should focus on is MiniSIP: http://www.minisip.org
I will if I can find some time... :P
#105244 - pas - Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:42 pm
I hope someone does a Programm for the DS for making Calls from the DS (for free ,) ).
#107370 - jester - Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:31 am
Yeah please answer the call also is this project still alive?
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#107388 - MaHe - Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:40 am
| jester wrote: |
| Yeah please answer the call also is this project still alive? |
What project? There never was a project.
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#107395 - jester - Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:36 am
well if we created a team it could all work :D
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#108072 - pas - Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:52 am
Hmm... Calling someone with the DS ;)
#108088 - OOPMan - Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:33 am
If someone wants to actually do this they might want to take a look here...
It's a pretty big list of OSS VoIP client/server software and associated libraries.
Probably a good place to start...
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#108096 - tepples - Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:06 am
I would bet that most of that software requires more than 4 MB of RAM, ruling out a straight port of an existing program.
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#108101 - OOPMan - Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:51 am
Yes, I would imagine so as well. However, the source code might prove useful for someone wanting to get an idea of how implementation has been done in the past.
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#108129 - HtheB - Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:39 pm
Technically, it is possible, since we see it in Metroid :)
#108186 - jester - Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:29 pm
Some one could atleast try very hard
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