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DS homebrew announcements > DS Organize now at 2.6, see other thread.

#114502 - TheYak - Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:16 pm

DragonMinded has posted a new version. This time around there's only one binary. Linkage

Up to Version 2.5. 2.45-2.5 changelist:

Fixes found in 2.5

* Worked on making DSOrganize take up less memory on its own for more plugin memory.
* Switched to more dynamic approach for plugins. Things should work better now.
* Changed home screen to display current and next two day planner events instead of past ones.
* Changed plugin vblank handling to give dedicated vblank access to plugins/exes when run.
* Changed some code on the arm9 recieve fifo queue, hopefully fixing the random sound/keyboard freeze.
* Changed arm7 upsampling code to sound better for amplified mp3's.
* Changed calculator memory usage to allow for larger numbers.
* Added in newest ogg vorbis memory leak fix.
* Added echo, cls, wait commands to homebrew database script.
* Added ability to swap buffers on only the top or bottom screen in plugins.
* Added ability for plugins to query which screen DSO is on (for those that hook to the draw function).
* Added simple battery saver function and debug write to disc function to plugin API.
* Added repeat to all keys in the keyboard and fixed a glitch where char 255 couldn't be typed.
* Added .dss shortcut type. Shortcuts can point to any file or directory except for another shortcut.
* Added access to the PSG on the arm9 for plugins.
* Added the missing commands for dswifi to the plugin API.
* Fixed erasor glitch in scribble.
* Fixed weird wrapping glitches introduced after the text fix.
* Fixed glitch in syntax highlighting for html files introduced after text fix.
* Fixed glitch where if resource0.bin is missing, DSO does not jump to your preferred start page.
* Fixed error with ID3 tags containing a carriage return/line feed.
* Fixed crash on loading iconsets from directories longer than 29 characters.
* Fixed two irc crash bugs relating to bad server replies (ie on irc.enterthegame.com).
* Removed mikmod loaders for all types but xm, it, s3m, mod due to low popularity.

*NOTE: Since the plugin architecture has been updated, please download the latest version of your favorite plugins to continue using them.
Anyway, here's the change list:

# Fixed the infamous crash bug in IRC when someone parted with a message. (This one was hard to find!)
# Fixed some translation issues with the Configuration page.
# Fixed bug in .sd.nds and .ds.gba booting.
# Fixed text wrapping errors on rename file and address book screens.
# Fixed help text stuck on screen in sound player after viewing help.
# Fixed another parsing error with vcards.
# Fixed clipping issue with spray bottle tool in scribble pad.
# Fixed issues with displaying some error messages in irc.
# Fixed inconsistency with nds launcher and cards not supported by built-in loader.
# Fixed issue with gautami font and some upper ascii characters being mapped wrong.
# Fixed a minor streaming buffer bug that seems to help with stability.
# Fixed pausing streams caused streaming to crash.
# Added dynamic loading of code for DSO specific plugins.
# Added customizable iconsets.
# Added .aac playback.
# Added m4a/m4b file playback. The DS is too slow for higher bitrate m4a files but lower bitrates should work.
# Added irc.ini file where users can customize DSO IRC.
# Added descriptions to most of the settings in the configuration.
# Added in fallback so foreign languages without help translations will still display english help.
# Added ability to choose specific streams within a .pls file.
# Added several commands (topic, mode, invite, kick, motd, version, ping, time, ctcp, whowas) to irc.
# Added new dldi interface to allow patching to new/unsupported cards.
# Added ogg vorbis streaming support in shoutcast and icecast servers.
# Added aac streaming support in shoutcast and icecast servers.
# Added an easter egg. See if you can find it!
# Added setting so DSOrganize remembers the last playback mode.
# Added legend to todo screen in help.
# Added m3u playlist support.
# Added symbols for copyright, registered, trademark, euro, pound, and yen to the character set.
# Changed random mode in playback to act more like shuffle.
# Changed picture loading screen to just moving bar, as progress was terribly inaccurate.
# Changed hilighting style on menus.
# Changed streaming detection to properly support iceCast streams.
# Changed buffer behavior on streams to buffer to 200% and more vigorously, for longer stream times.
# Changed .pls file parser to allow regular file playlists.
# Changed browser pull-up menu support to be easier to get to.
# Initialized volume to stop the 500% error when booting from moonshell.
# Re-ported tremor and mad for much better audio playback.
# Updated dswifi library to latest as usual.
# Stopped scrollbar from appearing on very short html files.
# Looked at microphone code, no real way to make the quality better due to speed of writing.
# Redid home screen splash to instead be an overview of the day.
# Made it so the browser doesn't sequentially or randomly play playlist files in sound mode, and changed the playlist icon.
# Rewrote a lot of the HTML renderer. It renders slower now, but will load much much longer pages.

* Fixed weird wordwrap issue with multiple font sizes
* Fixed a bug with style tags at the very end of an html file
* Fixed a bug where opening a page with different colored links left all pages displaying that link color.
* Added bullets and numbered lists
* Stopped extra whitespaces from appearing
* Changed formatting for <div> and <p> tags
* Added <hr>, <big>, <tt>, <code>, <strike>, <h6>, <frameset> with <noframes>, <sub>, <sup>, <em> <strong>, <cite>, <dfn>, <var>, <samp>, <kbd>
* Ignores <script> and <style> tag contents isntead of rendering as text


Last edited by TheYak on Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:42 pm; edited 4 times in total

#114504 - A2hok - Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:38 pm

I guess he came back because of DLDI *thanks chishm*
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#114507 - MaHe - Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:40 pm

Oh, damn, yeah! DSOrganize LIVES! ^_^
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#114514 - spastik - Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:25 pm

Okay, this may be in bad form, but I can't really find anywhere else to get help. I'm currently running the supercard minisd(1.7) and I can't get this to run at all. As a brief rundown of what I've tried so far:

-Originally had 1.63 tried sc.nds and it locked up and corrupted the SD card
-Updated to 1.7 and tried patching the sc.nds file with the DLDI and now it says trying patched driver and hangs

Any ideas?

#114516 - sirpoonga - Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:01 pm

Quote:
# Added an easter egg. See if you can find it!

The hunt is on...

#114539 - darkgilson - Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:47 pm

spastik wrote:
Okay, this may be in bad form, but I can't really find anywhere else to get help. I'm currently running the supercard minisd(1.7) and I can't get this to run at all. As a brief rundown of what I've tried so far:

-Originally had 1.63 tried sc.nds and it locked up and corrupted the SD card
-Updated to 1.7 and tried patching the sc.nds file with the DLDI and now it says trying patched driver and hangs

Any ideas?


Did you copy the new "Dsorganize" folder ?
I had the same problem, and I copied it.. Now it works with my supercard SD
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#114546 - Darkflame - Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:40 pm

Whoa...this is my best christmass present :)


Huge amount of updates this time O_o
And many things I been waiting fog (ogg streaming support!)


*starts to hunt for easter egg*
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#114552 - Mr. Picklesworth - Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:03 pm

Yay, streaming oggs! I've wanted that, too.
There are actually so many additions here I have yet to try all of them :)

It seems that streaming has really been improved. Buffers now go way above 100%, so for example I have a stream which the last version couldn't play for more than 2 minutes which can now run forever with a buffer of 150%.
m3u is good... I'll have to find all the streams I turned from m3u to dpg and put them back, but it shall be nice :)

I'm really liking the welcome screen. I think DSO could use some more stylish artwork, but that doesn't really matter and I still like the program just the same...
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#114557 - dantheman - Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:55 pm

spastik, thank you for the warning. It reminded me to backup my miniSD card before trying this new version. However, I was able to get it to work fine on my 1.63b SC miniSD without any patching. I followed darkgilson's suggestion and deleted the old DSOrganize folder before adding the new one, and although it takes a few seconds longer to boot, it works fine. I'm loving ogg streaming, as the only radio station I really even listen to (ormgas, streams OCRemix tracks) only outputs an ogg radio stream. Now it even goes up to 150% buffer on the highest quality stream, which is awesome. Shame the microphone code couldn't be improved though.

And on a completely unrelated note, I just now realized that Ormgas can be rearranged into a completely different word...

In any case, it's great that he came back to release this new version, especially considering all the additions and changes he made. Glad to see he hasn't quit the community for good.

#114566 - Bankoiia - Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:11 am

Getting stopped by the dancing cow on my SC Lite as usual. >_>

Guess I'll have no choice but to stick with an older version.
Yet again.

#114569 - dantheman - Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:02 am

How long did you wait? Mine was "stuck" but then I waited about 10-15 seconds and it booted.

Have you tried patching it with the SC Lite DLDI?

#114578 - MasterMan - Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:46 am

Here in my SCCF it tryes to init as NinjaDS but soon enough it changes to SCCF and works fine.
If i patch with SCCF DLDI it can't boot.
How can i supress the NinjaDS Check?

#114579 - user6336 - Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:12 am

MasterMan wrote:
Here in my SCCF it tryes to init as NinjaDS but soon enough it changes to SCCF and works fine.
If i patch with SCCF DLDI it can't boot.
How can i supress the NinjaDS Check?
Ditto, but with the Supercard SD. Very, very, very nice updates to the program! This just made my week! :D

#114580 - Mr. Picklesworth - Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:44 am

Yep, I say those checks should be swapped around. Isn't the SC a more common card than the relatively new Ninja DS?
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#114581 - felix123 - Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:56 am

Welcome back DragonMinded and great job!
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#114582 - Pikanya - Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:58 am

I got it to work in my M3SD by using the .nds version, patched with DLDI. The quirk is that I had to run it twice to get it to work, which means that when there was no save in the SRAM, it would not load. I created a save for it, then, and it works well.

#114585 - f3 - Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:44 am

Wow. Thank you so much, DM!
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#114646 - TheYak - Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:27 pm

Mr. Picklesworth wrote:
Yep, I say those checks should be swapped around. Isn't the SC a more common card than the relatively new Ninja DS?


Yeah, but he's got a NinjaDS and they worked some to make sure DSO ran as well as having some communication with him. So, brew first for what you have I guess.

#114657 - Optihut - Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:49 pm

Thanks a bunch, Dragonminded, I'll check it out when I find the time (probably on the weekend).

#114675 - Bankoiia - Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:02 am

dantheman wrote:
How long did you wait? Mine was "stuck" but then I waited about 10-15 seconds and it booted.

Have you tried patching it with the SC Lite DLDI?

Tried the SuperCard patch, but it leaves me without luck as well.

I'm still stuck with the cow, only difference being the text has changed to:
"Trying Patched Driver" which after a while changes into:
"Trying Fc?'OU? Driver". Kept it running like that for a good five minutes without result. =/

#114679 - tyraen - Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:34 am

I'm also having trouble with my SC lite. Unpatched gives an error. After patching with dldi it just sits at the cow for a while, then the text garbles like mentioned by Bankoiia.

#114681 - user6336 - Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:40 am

Having a weird problem where .ogg files freeze by just repeating over and over one part (like a cd skipping), then not being able to play any other songs until the ds is turned off and back on again. Also a suggestion: try and make playlists be able to be shuffled! That'd be freakin sweet!

#114690 - Goldeneye - Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:36 am

user6336 wrote:
Having a weird problem where .ogg files freeze by just repeating over and over one part (like a cd skipping), then not being able to play any other songs until the ds is turned off and back on again.

Same problem here. But when im streaming from an internet station using ogg files. No matter the bitrate, sooner or later it freezes and repeats the last half second over and over again till I turn off the DS.

#114693 - MasterMan - Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:19 am

    Fixes found in 2.41
  • Changed driver structure to allow better supercard support, built in m3cf support.
  • Changed version string to properly reflect the version.
  • Fixed issue with loading IRC configuration.
  • Fixed issue with some langauges and random freezes/browser errors.
  • Fixed issue with files with no extension being detected as a plugin type.
  • Added check for resource0.bin and added warning message if it's not found.

#114704 - HyperHacker - Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:19 am

Hallelujia, or however you spell that! If this AAC streaming really works I'm going to head out to the car dealership, wish I could afford to buy DM a new car, and instead just donate something I can afford when I get the chance. I probably should have done that ages ago, really.

Heh, I about did a double-take when I saw this thread. "DSOrganize 2.4, hah bump... wait, isn't the latest 2.3... omg!"

I can think of only two more features I wish DSO had now: hex calculator and IRC logging. That's all I'd even consider asking for, and I'd feel rude asking even that without giving something big back because this program just owns. DragonMinded, do you have any need for a 1GB SD card?

Also, I love how everything is polished up nice and professional (IE works great and easy to use) but isn't mechanical and boring (IE comments in the help file like "that'd just be stupid"). :-p

Maybe I'm crazy but even the L button seems to be working much better; it's been unresponsive lately. O_o

I did find one minor bug though. There appears to be descriptions for the text fields (IRC username, default homebrew path etc) in the options, but they're immediately covered by the keyboard.

One last note, I notice Japanese usernames still show up wrong. But hey, who cares? I know who I am. ;-)

[edit] AAC streaming works great but the music is still playing slightly faster than it can keep up, resulting in the buffer slowly dwindling away... lasts at least 2 minutes though, which is nice considering the hardware (and beats the heck out of MP3 streaming). Though it doesn't show the song name? A bit odd... I like to write down the names of nice songs so I can look for the discs later. Well, I suppose I'll write down the times they played instead and have my computer log the name of each song from the website when I'm away. :-p

[edit 2] Streaming works even better with a closer server. Buffer is at 212% and rising! Yay! Finally I can listen to my favourite online station at work. (That is, if their connection is fast enough... heh) It started throwing errors after the buffer ran out (error attempting to connect), so maybe the first server just pooped out, or I got knocked out and someone else took the last spot; it only supports a few people listening at a time.


Once again freaking great work.


[whee more editing] I think the ARM7 just crashed while streaming. It continued to repeat the last second or so of sound even when I closed the player, opened the file browser, and played an MP3. (The progress bar moved as normal but the sound didn't change.) The buffer was slowly draining, re-opening the playlist file got stuck at "associating", and the touch screen didn't respond, which all point to ARM7 not responding.
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#114722 - tyraen - Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:31 pm

MasterMan wrote:
    Fixes found in 2.41
  • Changed driver structure to allow better supercard support, built in m3cf support.
  • Changed version string to properly reflect the version.
  • Fixed issue with loading IRC configuration.
  • Fixed issue with some langauges and random freezes/browser errors.
  • Fixed issue with files with no extension being detected as a plugin type.
  • Added check for resource0.bin and added warning message if it's not found.


Yup, but my problems are with the 2.41 version, I didn't get to try the 2.4.

#114741 - Bluemercury - Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:13 pm

Not working with my m3lite......:S

#114777 - tepples - Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:07 pm

user6336 wrote:
Having a weird problem where .ogg files freeze by just repeating over and over one part (like a cd skipping), then not being able to play any other songs until the ds is turned off and back on again.

Not a new bug. I had a Linkin Park song from the YTMND soundtrack do that to me in 2.3.
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#114787 - MaHe - Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:33 pm

Bluemercury wrote:
Not working with my m3lite......:S

Are you sure? I had to reinsert mine several times and blow into the contacts but it works fine now. Of course, you have to apply the DLDI patch. :)
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#114802 - HyperHacker - Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:11 pm

tepples wrote:
user6336 wrote:
Having a weird problem where .ogg files freeze by just repeating over and over one part (like a cd skipping), then not being able to play any other songs until the ds is turned off and back on again.

Not a new bug. I had a Linkin Park song from the YTMND soundtrack do that to me in 2.3.

Is that the same crash I described, where wifi stops working and the touch screen won't respond?
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#114817 - A2hok - Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:34 pm

Can somebody please specify which firmware of supercard SD and which file (sc.nds or ds.gba etc) I patch with the DLDI if I patch anything that will let it work?

At the moment I am running 1.70 and I have tried the DLDI patch for scsd on the sc.nds and no luck. I have also tried the sc.nds without the patch.
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#114833 - chishm - Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:19 am

A2hok wrote:
Can somebody please specify which firmware of supercard SD and which file (sc.nds or ds.gba etc) I patch with the DLDI if I patch anything that will let it work?

At the moment I am running 1.70 and I have tried the DLDI patch for scsd on the sc.nds and no luck. I have also tried the sc.nds without the patch.

What is the exact output you get when running dlditool, and are you using version 1.10 of it?
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#114848 - felix123 - Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:27 am

I patched 2.4 sc.nds with SCSD dldi and it didn't work (grey screen).
I patched 2.4 nds with SCSD dldi, and then used the magic homebrew patcher. That worked.

I'm using dldi tool 1.10. SC firmware 1.63.
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#114850 - Darkflame - Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:37 am

Wow..this works so great now...Im streaming perfectly almost everything i try! :) :)
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#114856 - bugmenot! - Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:10 am

dont use this for m3-sd, corrupts the card (1-2 files will nvr be able to delete unless reformat)
had same problem with 2.3

to specify, in vcard, makes 2 gibberish files

will make screenshot if you want

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#114861 - CommDante - Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:50 am

How come DSO isn't stickied while some weird unknown weather thingy is?
I mean, most people look and get attracted to the whole homebrew scene due to something like DSO. It has so much features and alot more "noob/windows-user" friendly stuff. I'd rather use it it then Linux in most cases of "OS" usage ... copy/move/rename etc

When you're used to Linux, I'd bet it's faster, but DSo offers so much more. I really can't comprehend why DS Weather (orso) gets a sticky while the most known homebrew doesn't. In that some context, where is dsLinux? DSO is like a (almost) all in one package to me and alot of people, why isn't this stickied?

#114872 - HyperHacker - Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:55 am

Heh, I was just thinking a while ago, why isn't DSLiveWeather a DSOrganize plugin? ;-)
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#114882 - tepples - Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:48 am

CommDante wrote:
How come DSO isn't stickied while some weird unknown weather thingy is?

Because DSO fell out of maintenance for some time. My mistake.
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#114896 - monkey1987 - Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:36 am

Hello Everyone,

Today I tryed DSorganise with the g6flash dldi file
And, it's working great!

Except one thing..
Downloading homebrew..
I can connect to the server..
And i can start the download, but then after a while (at 100000kb) it crashes..
What could this be?
And YES i have enough space on my G6Flash
And also used the lasted g6fl.dldi

#114905 - tyraen - Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:03 pm

felix123 wrote:
I patched 2.4 sc.nds with SCSD dldi and it didn't work (grey screen).
I patched 2.4 nds with SCSD dldi, and then used the magic homebrew patcher. That worked.

I'm using dldi tool 1.10. SC firmware 1.63.


Weird, I patched the nds with dlditool, then used the magic homebrew patcher, and the resulting .sc.nds boots but just does the unpatched FAT init (NinjaDS, etc.) and tells me the card isn't supported.

#114937 - felix123 - Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:25 pm

[quote="monkey1987"]
And i can start the download, but then after a while (at 100000kb) it crashes..
/quote]
Because G6 is still read only?
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#114941 - theli - Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:51 pm

G6 isn't readonly

#114956 - A2hok - Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:53 pm

felix123 wrote:
I patched 2.4 sc.nds with SCSD dldi and it didn't work (grey screen).
I patched 2.4 nds with SCSD dldi, and then used the magic homebrew patcher. That worked.

I'm using dldi tool 1.10. SC firmware 1.63.


It didn't work - just went to the error screen please use FAT compatible hardware like GBAMP. I'm also using dldi tool 1.10. SC firmware 1.63.
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#114967 - LiraNuna - Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:13 pm

HyperHacker wrote:
Heh, I was just thinking a while ago, why isn't DSLiveWeather a DSOrganize plugin? ;-)


why don't code that instead of complaining ;-)?
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#115013 - Bluemercury - Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:52 am

MaHe wrote:
Bluemercury wrote:
Not working with my m3lite......:S

Are you sure? I had to reinsert mine several times and blow into the contacts but it works fine now. Of course, you have to apply the DLDI patch. :)


how do i apply the DLDI patch?

#115016 - tepples - Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:17 am

Bluemercury wrote:
how do i apply the DLDI patch?

See the DLDI topic.
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#115157 - DragonMinded - Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:29 am

DSO v2.45 is out with fixes for bugs and the addition of the DSO EXE format. Please read http://dragonminded.blogspot.com/ and http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=12151 for more info!
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#115215 - Firon - Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:48 pm

DragonMinded, did you apply the memory leak fixes in Tremor from lemieux berthier? They aren't included in the original Tremor.

http://utorrent.com/tremorleak.html (I posted it as an HTML on my site because mailman mangled the original message)
http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/tremor/2003-September/000390.html

Also, I'm not sure if someone has directed this to you, but Moonlight posted a message to you on his site. http://mdxonline.dyndns.org/archives/2007/01/hello_dragonminded.shtml

#115220 - tyraen - Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:59 pm

As I mentioned in the fatlib thread over in the development forum, the Moonshell DLDI for SCSD works with my SC Lite, except for writing.

I decided to mention that here too, because after patching DS Organize 2.45 with the DLDI it work but even though writing to the SD wasn't working it didn't give me any errors. I added a TODO and restarted, it wasn't there (which is obvious), but DSO didn't warn or anything. Just thought that might be something for the future. :)

Great to at least see the new version though! Thanks!

#115262 - Bluemercury - Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:31 am

just tried the 2.45 beta and its working fine with my m3lite after patching it with DLDI, tested with creating some files and its working. ;)

#115398 - DeVS - Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:38 pm

Is there any way to set my own irc channel to auto join? I changed the server to the one I want in the config but also wanted to change the autologin to the channel I choose?

#115483 - Vedran - Tue Jan 16, 2007 1:48 pm

DeVS wrote:
Is there any way to set my own irc channel to auto join? I changed the server to the one I want in the config but also wanted to change the autologin to the channel I choose?

Change the channel you want to autojoin in autoperform.txt

#115491 - DeVS - Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:25 pm

Thank you.

#115645 - HyperHacker - Thu Jan 18, 2007 2:44 am

Hey, I have some ideas for DSO that would require more than a plugin system can provide, such as adding more info to the screen when streaming music and adding a setting to choose which WFC data in the firmware to use. Would it be possible for me to just make these changes in the latest source and send you the modified files or patches? I know you don't want a separate branch going and I'd rather not try to maintain one of an active project anyway.
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#116126 - Sebben - Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:45 am

Some songs won't play - upon the play instruction, it'll completely freeze up. Any ideas on why this is?

#116148 - tyraen - Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:45 pm

Anyone developing for the plugin system that has some debugging advice? There are no emulators that can do FAT alright, correct? Dualis didn't seem to like it and that was the only one I had heard of emulating FAT in some form...

My process right now is compile, copy to SD, start up DSO, open a file. Which might not seem too horrible I guess, but over and over and over... :)

What might be neat to see is a DSO executable that could launch an FTP server (did a quick try to see if I could use the DSFTP library but no go, it's compiled with fat/wifi support and can't see the DSO versions), and then have an option to reload all plugins or something.

#116198 - tepples - Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:37 am

tyraen wrote:
Anyone developing for the plugin system that has some debugging advice? There are no emulators that can do FAT alright, correct?

If someone makes a devoptab wrapper around GBFS or UnZip, then any emulator that runs ds.gba will be able to run homebrew that uses a file system.

Quote:
My process right now is compile, copy to SD, start up DSO, open a file.

Can you skip the DSO step?
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#116210 - HyperHacker - Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:57 am

Be a bit hard to test a DSO plugin without running DSO wouldn't it?
I'd look into writing an app that grabs the updated plugin over wifi, writes it to disk, and starts DSO automatically. Then have your plugin reset (via libcartreset) to this program when done. Your makefile should be able to automatically send the compiled .nds to the program waiting.
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#116230 - Bluemercury - Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:01 pm

Is anyone having trouble getting files from the database homebrew section?i downloaded the submarine tech demo but it came corrupted or something, but the files i created in the scribble are working fine......

#116231 - Red XIII - Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:33 pm

Using a SCL Rumble I downloaded like 15 minutes ago the submarine tech (btw,without seeing your post first,talk about coincidence) and it downloaded and saved fine in my microSD card.

DSO patched with SCLite .dldi

Maybe you could post the card you're using so that someone with the same card can confirm this?
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#116234 - Bluemercury - Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:52 pm

im using an m3 lite........anyonway how do you run the tech demos in the m3 cards does anyone knows?

#116342 - MechaBouncer - Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:12 pm

Does anyone else have trouble using the libcartreset function of some programs in DSO? I mentioned this in the DSLiveWeather "Vesper" topic, but thought I'd mention it here too. For reference, I'm using an old SCSD with firmware v1.70 as my signature states.

In DSO 1.45 (patched with Chishm's SCSD patch) both DSLiveWeather "Vesper" and LoveLite 1.4 will launch and then freeze using the "DSOrganize" launching method. Using "Mighty Max's" launching method, both will launch and work, but pressing the reset buttons will cause the DS to freeze. So far, it just seems to be DSO that has the problem with them as I can launch from the SuperCard menu and MoonShell (both old v1.41 and new v1.6 DLDI versions) without incident. Someone mentioned that MoonShell used gba_nds_fat instead of libfat, so I don't know if that makes a difference. I also tried using the SCSD_MOON DLDI patch with DSO, but that only seemed to make it unstable and didn't improve anything.

So is this a consistent problem across the board?
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#116399 - Sebben - Thu Jan 25, 2007 8:20 am

I'm beginning to think my microsd is just simply damaged or something. I can't even access my music folder in DSOrganize - everything just freezes up, like some songs did before half way. Some I couldn't even play.

And moonshell. It looked like it was going to boot - but then it would freeze in between some process.

God, do I wish I never touched my original version of moonshell. Maybe I'd be happily sitting here watching Scrubs on my DS :(.

#116407 - HyperHacker - Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:47 am

Are you sure it's frozen? Mine takes a few seconds, even on a nice fast CF card, to open a directory with ~270 files in it.
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#116409 - Sebben - Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:39 am

I tried with 2 files - sure it opened. But there's no reason why it shouldn't be having trouble handling 8 files in the folder. And also, some songs play, some songs don't. And the many songs that play, in between they get stuck and jammed, just like a cd does.

Odd, now I just placed 8 files into the folder, and they actually all work. But still - my moonshell doesn't and DSOrganize is hardly consistent. I still need to find out what's wrong with Moonshell and in general. And suggestions?

EDIT : I just tried filling it with music - perhaps you were right, it just needed time to load the folder. But up until now, it's always froze completely solid, even with only 5 files.

Gah, I hate products from China >_>

#116432 - Lick - Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:30 pm

Would you make better products if you get paid a shit amount of salary too?
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#116435 - tepples - Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:00 pm

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Would you make better products if you get paid a shit amount of salary too?

Dollar-for-yuan exchange rate isn't everything. The purchasing power parity between two economies also plays a role. For instance, if Big Mac sandwiches are cheaper in a given country than in the United States, it's likely that a given amount of the country's currency will buy more dollars in the future.
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#116448 - Sebben - Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:13 pm

Lick wrote:
Would you make better products if you get paid a shit amount of salary too?


Ouch. Sorry then, comment uncalled for.

Good news! Everything works fine now, after clearing out 200mb of games, I reinstalled DSorganize and moonshell with my music, and then placed back my games. Now for some reason everything works flawlessly. But I'm not complaining :).

#116449 - HyperHacker - Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:22 pm

Yeah, you probably have a cheap/incompatible card. DS apps don't seem fond of the cheaper brands.

Also when the sound gets "stuck like a CD", that's likely the ARM7 crashing. You'll notice the sound continues after closing the program (even if opening another sound file, which simply won't do anything), the touch screen won't respond, and wifi will never initialize (and if you're streaming, the buffer will slowly drop to zero). This happens occasionally to me; was it happening especially often for you? If so, it could indicate some connection between filesystem errors and the crashes, though I'm almost always streaming when I play music in DSO so I suspect this may not be the case.
On the other hand, if touch/wifi/etc is still working, then it's probably just having trouble reading the file. The sound skips like a broken CD because it's the same problem as a broken CD - the CPU can't read the next piece of sound data, so it keeps repeating the last piece it played.
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#116456 - Sebben - Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:47 pm

Yeah, I got mine off of Ebay for 5 dollars, shipping cost 20 :P. I think it's probably a fake since the label is printed on the wrong side.

The whole "sound stuck" thing happened while playing the only song that worked back then.After that, Dsorganize didn't initialize for a while, and after a few retries then it worked.

I suppose it's just the microsd buggering up.


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#116469 - tepples - Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:09 am

Sebben wrote:
I've also found that for some reason, after I finish a game of tetris, I can't return to the main menu because it'll freeze up too.

No Tetris DS piracy talk please.
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#116573 - Sebben - Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:11 am

Soz hard, removed.

#117707 - daninski - Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:16 pm

it works with the osx patcher dldi thing.... GOD BLESS THE OSX PATCHER! it doesnt like to start up programs from it tho. get a big FAT error.
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#117741 - Liquidnumb - Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:57 am

DSOrganize fails to launch ds.gba files from it's browser. Beup for example, a program that would run fine otherwise hangs at "Initializing FAT" for a few seconds, then tells me

Quote:
Interface: Unknown interface
Please wait, booting your file

For some reason, the file was
not loadable.


I'm using a G6. All DLDI apps seem to run just dandy, as I haven't had any other problems so far. Is this normal? I suspect it has something to do with the fact that the G6 DLDI patch is still sort of unfinished, but I don't know enough about it to tell one way or the other.

Does anyone else with a G6 have this problem?

#117937 - felix123 - Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:05 pm

Did you try launching with Y button?
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#117975 - Liquidnumb - Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:35 pm

felix123 wrote:
Did you try launching with Y button?


Was that for me?

Maybe you mean daninski but just in case, do you mean launch an app from DSOrganize with the Y button? Pressing Y over a ds.gba file in DSO doesn't appear to do much of anything. Or did you mean launching DSO from my G6 with Y? That just puts the G6 in GBA mode, from which DSO obviously can not run.

I've tried both the 0.15 and 0.16 G6 DLDI patches.

Do other people with a G6 have problems with DSO? It crashes an awful lot in the middle of streaming shoutcasts, too. I've heard of that, but is it common?

#118008 - DragonMinded - Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:12 am

(Y) is just an alternate launch. It won't do anything if you are not on supercard or gbamp.
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#118117 - HyperHacker - Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:12 am

Yes, it's very unstable for me when streaming on a GBAMP. It's weird because the problems are different every time. Sometimes it won't buffer fast enough, sometimes the ARM7 will crash, sometimes it'll just disconnect. In any case it results in having to power off and on again pretty much every 4 minutes at best. :-( If I had the time I'd take a look at the code myself and see if I could figure out why, but I doubt I'd get anywhere. Writing my own code is one thing, debugging someone else's is another story entirely.

It seems to play MP3s OK (haven't tried streaming one), the problem seems to lie in wifi. Often it just won't connect at all, or will disconnect during play; when this happens, sometimes just reopening the file gets it to connect, but usually I have to hard reboot. I can always access the homebrew database just fine though.

I wonder if it's some sort of power problem, as it seems to get worse the more I use it, and the batteries die fairly quick too (the speakers are quite hard on them). Could be something silly like not being able to power both the wifi and sound system reliably with a low battery.
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#118350 - daninski - Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:32 pm

the y button seems to just gray out the files... or do you mean on the supercard menu? i might as well just try it rather than asking :p
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#118358 - Mr. Picklesworth - Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:43 pm

You are pressing X :p

There are instruction on the top screen for which button does what.
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#118360 - daninski - Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:56 pm

yes i was, but y didn't work. it initializes fat thing, the says it cant for some reason.
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#118575 - khan - Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:15 am

I am sorry but there seems to be bug for custom iconset. After a while it automatically goes back to the default iconset for god know why and how. I have to go into the config almost every few days to change it to custom.

@Dragonminded: can you plz have a look at it because it is bothersome to change config every few days.

#118639 - HyperHacker - Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:25 am

I found something interesting. In older versions, the program would frequently freeze at "Getting MOTD" when I connected to the homebrew database. (This was the only wifi function at the time.) Today when I tried to play an online radio station, it went through Associating, Connecting, then completely froze up. IRC would do the same. I then tried the homebrew database... froze at Getting MOTD just like the old versions! This was unusual as the database has always worked in the latest versions, so I tried to connect with Mario Kart DS: "Connected to hotspot but unable to connect to server." (I didn't catch the error ID though.)

Apparently something was buggered up; the access point was on, but there was no Internet connection. When this happens, DSO will freeze when it tries to connect to a server (never timing out perhaps?) in any program, every time. I wonder if some of the streaming bugs are related to briefly losing connection?
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#118732 - HyperHacker - Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:07 am

I checked today, the NWFC error code was 52100. I think it may be a bug in the wifi lib as DSLiveWeather does exactly the same - connects to hotspot OK, but freezes when connecting to server.
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#118735 - theli - Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:16 am

well, i can't connect to my home hotspot at all :(
but i can with, for example, DSWeather (wifi1.3c) ... just wanted to listen to my own icecast stream :(

#119478 - TheYak - Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:33 pm

Up to v. 2.5 now.

Changelist:

Fixes found in 2.5

* Worked on making DSOrganize take up less memory on its own for more plugin memory.
* Switched to more dynamic approach for plugins. Things should work better now.
* Changed home screen to display current and next two day planner events instead of past ones.
* Changed plugin vblank handling to give dedicated vblank access to plugins/exes when run.
* Changed some code on the arm9 recieve fifo queue, hopefully fixing the random sound/keyboard freeze.
* Changed arm7 upsampling code to sound better for amplified mp3's.
* Changed calculator memory usage to allow for larger numbers.
* Added in newest ogg vorbis memory leak fix.
* Added echo, cls, wait commands to homebrew database script.
* Added ability to swap buffers on only the top or bottom screen in plugins.
* Added ability for plugins to query which screen DSO is on (for those that hook to the draw function).
* Added simple battery saver function and debug write to disc function to plugin API.
* Added repeat to all keys in the keyboard and fixed a glitch where char 255 couldn't be typed.
* Added .dss shortcut type. Shortcuts can point to any file or directory except for another shortcut.
* Added access to the PSG on the arm9 for plugins.
* Added the missing commands for dswifi to the plugin API.
* Fixed erasor glitch in scribble.
* Fixed weird wrapping glitches introduced after the text fix.
* Fixed glitch in syntax highlighting for html files introduced after text fix.
* Fixed glitch where if resource0.bin is missing, DSO does not jump to your preferred start page.
* Fixed error with ID3 tags containing a carriage return/line feed.
* Fixed crash on loading iconsets from directories longer than 29 characters.
* Fixed two irc crash bugs relating to bad server replies (ie on irc.enterthegame.com).
* Removed mikmod loaders for all types but xm, it, s3m, mod due to low popularity.

*NOTE: Since the plugin architecture has been updated, please download the latest version of your favorite plugins to continue using them.

#119483 - daninski - Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:33 pm

i still cant launch programs from the browser. only the patched .nds launches for me. the other patched files dont work, two white screen ect etc (dldi patching for supercard lite). it gets the checking fat and then the cant open this file for some reason screen.
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#119530 - HyperHacker - Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:51 am

W00tieflakes. Nice additions here, I like this third page of the home screen idea especially. MP3 playback sounds poor though, with noticeable crackling. It's taking much longer than it used to to open a directory, which is especially noticeable with 273 files. On my GBAMP, the Mighty Max launcher hangs at Initializing FAT, while the DSO launcher works. Did I miss the part of the readme that tells how to create these .dss files?

Nice to see PSG support for plugins, now once I'm done with a few other DS projects I'll have to try that out.

I'll probably have some comments on the audio streaming feature once I get home from work on Sunday. My home AP uses WEP (it's not mine so I'm not allowed to change that <_<), and DSO unfortunately still appears to support NWFC connection 1 only, which means to try it here I'd have to erase the settings for the AP at work and type in the big long key and so on, just a pain in the butt. Hopefully they'll have fixed the Internet connection that was supposed to be fixed last Monday...
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#119569 - khan - Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:02 am

To celebrate the release of DSO 2.5. i will share with all my new Iconset based around Iphone menu icons.

Download:
Here

#119635 - pas - Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:10 pm

@HyperHacker:

For .dss look here: Helped me too ;) :

http://www.dragonminded.com/?loc=ndsdev/DSOrganize%20FAQ

Just press Cntrl + F and type in: How do I take advantage of shortcuts?
When you are on the Site.
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#119727 - khan - Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:38 pm

@DragonMinded:

Could please also put some text next to the plugins that you are hosting on your website as to what version they are. Currently i have download both plugins (Genesis and Wonderswan) but it does not say about the version on which these plugins are based.

Thanks

#120033 - tyraen - Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:44 pm

I've actually had a bunch of problems getting my plugin working with the new version. I'm pretty strapped for time these days so it'll be a while unfortunately (you can follow progress on my site).

Anyways, the little I have up and running crashes randomly. At this point in time, I have no idea why. :) It seems to be while parsing a file, but could be completely random since that's just part of the execution that takes a little while.

#120138 - IxthusTiger - Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:18 am

I'm using an R4 and my PC doesn't want to read my microSD anymore (not DSOrganize's fault, I stuck it in someone's cell phone and now I have the problem)

I can still browse, delete, etc my files with DSOrganize. Is there anything I can do to transfer files off of my card or possibly make it readable?

#120141 - Firon - Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:29 am

See if you can use DSFTP to upload all the files somewhere. It'll take forever, though!

#120144 - IxthusTiger - Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:43 am

Well, I can't get anything onto the card, so I can't get the DSFTP.nds file on there. And the Homebrew database only has DS demos and dsDoom.

I'm asking in this thread because maybe there's a way to do something with DSOrganize since it can view and mess with my files. Right now I'm trying to fill the rest of the card with a recorded wav to see if that helps. If not, I'll try downloading dsDoom to see if it changes anything.

#120151 - khan - Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:25 am

Hi all, This morning i accidently launched DSO w/o the folder on my root MicroSD and now i can not delete that automatic created folder.

#120187 - tepples - Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:25 pm

Did you chkdsk your MicroSD card?
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#120188 - khan - Thu Mar 01, 2007 6:27 pm

tepples wrote:
Did you chkdsk your MicroSD card?


Yes, but i then decided to format as it was not deleting it.

#120221 - HyperHacker - Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:04 pm

IxthusTiger wrote:
Well, I can't get anything onto the card, so I can't get the DSFTP.nds file on there. And the Homebrew database only has DS demos and dsDoom.

I'm asking in this thread because maybe there's a way to do something with DSOrganize since it can view and mess with my files. Right now I'm trying to fill the rest of the card with a recorded wav to see if that helps. If not, I'll try downloading dsDoom to see if it changes anything.

Isn't DSFTP in the DSO homebrew database?
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#120224 - DragonMinded - Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:06 pm

IxthusTiger wrote:
Well, I can't get anything onto the card, so I can't get the DSFTP.nds file on there. And the Homebrew database only has DS demos and dsDoom.

I'm asking in this thread because maybe there's a way to do something with DSOrganize since it can view and mess with my files. Right now I'm trying to fill the rest of the card with a recorded wav to see if that helps. If not, I'll try downloading dsDoom to see if it changes anything.


There is a way to create a .pkg file on your DS that downloads from any web location. Check on my forums. With this, you may be able to download DSFTP from a local server, then run it and grab the files.
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#120277 - daninski - Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:38 am

hey DM, any chance that the radio player would be able to support .asx.asf* so i can listen to BBC radio? :)


* what ever kind of file this sort of thing is... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/wm_asx/aod/radio2_hi.asx
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#120279 - Firon - Fri Mar 02, 2007 7:54 am

That's Windows Media Audio. I don't think DSO has a WMA decoder.

#120286 - daninski - Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:24 am

dag nam it, BBC only do that type of file or realmedia pap...
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#120308 - sonny_jim - Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:34 pm

Slightly OT: I went to a Linux audio conference a while ago and one of the engineers working on their new codec (can't remember the name of it) was doing a presentation. He was asked why the BBC only offer Windows or Realmedia streams instead of some open source thing (he was all for OSS) and he said that they had to choose it because it was the only available solution at the time that had support for the largest amount of platforms.

You could always frig something with mplayer streaming to icecast via JACK or some such and then play the stream with DSO.

#120423 - six-five-two - Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:59 pm

Okay I am trying to run games via DS Organize except it is stuck on this screen:
"Initializing FAT"

Please help!

Oh, and why is there a 3rd menu thing if nothing is there?

#120428 - dantheman - Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:17 pm

Have you patched the exec_stub.bin file with the correct DLDI file for your device?

#120429 - six-five-two - Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:30 pm

You mean DLDI patched it? Yeah. I install the patching thing for R4DS/Simply then clicked on the NDS File and DLDI patched it.

The exec_stub.bin file though I don't know how to patch that. Can you tell me how?

#120439 - dantheman - Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:10 pm

Exec_stub.bin can be found in the DSOrganize\Resources folder on your media card.

I'm assuming you installed DLDIrc which adds the right-click menu option. To patch files that don't end in .nds, you'll need to use a different method of patching. Either use the command-line patcher or use the Windows GUI for it. To use the command-line program, put dlditool.exe and exec_stub.bin and r4tf.dldi in the same folder. Then open a command prompt and navigate to that folder. Type
Code:
dlditool.exe r4tf.dldi exec_stub.bin


It should patch it then. Copy the file back to your DSOrganize\Resources folder.

#120443 - six-five-two - Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:25 pm

I tried that. And it just opened up the window for a brief second then closed it... I have the Windows GUI.. how do I patch it through there?

#120446 - dantheman - Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:32 pm

Put the GUI program in the same folder that all the other files are in (the files I mentioned in my last post). Launch the GUI. It should be fairly self-explanatory from there.

#120453 - six-five-two - Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:09 pm

dantheman wrote:
Exec_stub.bin can be found in the DSOrganize\Resources folder on your media card.

I'm assuming you installed DLDIrc which adds the right-click menu option. To patch files that don't end in .nds, you'll need to use a different method of patching. Either use the command-line patcher or use the Windows GUI for it. To use the command-line program, put dlditool.exe and exec_stub.bin and r4tf.dldi in the same folder. Then open a command prompt and navigate to that folder. Type
Code:
dlditool.exe r4tf.dldi exec_stub.bin


It should patch it then. Copy the file back to your DSOrganize\Resources folder.


Tried that and it said "Patch successful" then loaded on M3 and games stuck on white screen.

EDIT: Can't you patch it for me then host it on rapidshare or something?

#121143 - khan - Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:42 pm

Hi,

I have spent few hours and this is what i have been doing, i would like Dragonminded to implement this into the next release so it no longer looks boring.

Address Book
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

BMP/JPG/PNG/GIF/RAW Viewer
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Calendar/Day Planner
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

File Browser
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Integrated IRC
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Online Homebrew Database
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Scientific Calculator
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

Scribble Pad
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

Text/HTML/INI Viewer and Editor
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

Todo List
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

WAV Recorder
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

WAV/MP3/OGG/AAC/M4A/MOD/IT/S3M/XM Player
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

What do you think Dragonminded?

Thanks

#121163 - DragonMinded - Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:22 pm

Wow, I'm impressed by the effort you put into these. Although the GUI mechanism doesn't draw like you have set, you raise a good point. I think some of these modifications, or at least customizations could be possible. Give me some time to mull it over.
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#121192 - six-five-two - Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:09 am

So can you run commercial ROMS via DS Organize?

Khan that's an awesome GUI! Can't wait until it's complete!

#121193 - tepples - Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:14 am

six-five-two wrote:
So can you run commercial ROMS via DS Organize?

Why would you want to? They work better from Game Cards anyway.
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#121203 - HyperHacker - Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:46 am

I think the answer he's looking for is no, DSOrganize cannot boot DS cards; use the firmware for that.
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#121451 - tyraen - Mon Mar 12, 2007 3:09 pm

I just noticed that DragonMinded said the Y button launching only works on Supercard and M3. Is this only the original Supercard? I have a Lite and it doesn't work for me (as in, nothing noticeable happens when I press Y). I thought it was just me doing something wrong, but it doesn't display the details for the Y button alternate launch either so maybe the SC detection isn't working?

#121464 - alfatreze - Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:09 pm

khan wrote:
Hi,

I have spent few hours and this is what i have been doing, i would like Dragonminded to implement this into the next release so it no longer looks boring.

What do you think Dragonminded?

Thanks


Nice job khan, although if Dragonminded is going to change the GUI I believe he could improve some other little tidbits, gaining both space and legibility.
I have rather extensive study of the DSO UI for a project I proposed to DM, and although I know he doesn't want to make drastic changes, there are several small improvements that can be done to the UI, streamlining and facilitating interaction.
Ex: Putting buttons glued to bottom, maybe even a quick action list instead of using shoulder buttons to chnage action. _This confuses users because they can't see all actions at once and are never sure exactly what actions there are. The same mechanic applies to seetings wich are rather cumbersome to navigate because you either use L/R wich skips files one by one, or select last field with stylus and then skip to next with L. There are several of these inconsistencies where interaction varies a good deal.
If Dragonminded would consider changing graphics, I was hoping he would consider improving some UI elements aswell, and we could perhaps work together. I really don't care much about how it looks graphically as long as it is well thought and consistent, both graphically as well as interactively!

... Hmm.. Sorry Dragonminded if I am talking about you in the third person but this is mostly directed to you naturally! I'd really like to catch you in a quick IM or Skype chat, so I could easily illustrate some points so you'd consider them. It really isn't the same talking withouth feedback :P.

#121469 - theli - Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:46 pm

anyone have an idea why, if DSO is really compiled against latest latest dswifi, it can't connect for me when any other homebrew i've tried connects without any problems?

#121541 - DragonMinded - Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:53 am

I don't use the absolute latest wifi because it causes my DS to freeze on association, so I'm a release or two behind.
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#121582 - theli - Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:18 am

so that's why ;(
unfortunately only latest (or pre-latest) dswifi works for me :(

#121969 - DragonMinded - Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:56 am

Scratch that, for some reason, this time when I tried it, it worked.
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#121997 - theli - Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:48 am

so looking forward some minor release ;)

#122030 - DragonMinded - Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:32 pm

Minor? Wut!
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#122158 - IxthusTiger - Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:11 pm

I was using DSO 2.5 for a while in my R4, and every so often my microSD would be corrupted. I fixed it each time by formatting it in a friend's cellphone. Has anything changed in 2.6 that in any way might cause less corruptions?