#123019 - bjoerngiesler - Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:51 pm
Hi,
I'm proud to present the first little app using my DS GUI lib: ReadMore. It's in alpha, but it's enough to look at.
ReadMore is an Ebook Reader with no frills, bells or whistles. It currently has the following features:
o Book-style format; the DS is held on end like a pocket book.
o Only .txt files supported.
o Anti-aliased fonts, changeable per document.
o Three bookmarks per document.
o Last visited document is re-opened on program start.
You can get it at http://giesler.biz/~bjoern/downloads/readmore/ReadMoreAlpha.zip. There's a ReadMe file in the ZIP which you should read before installing.
Have fun!
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#123041 - jbullfrog - Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:32 pm
All I can say is ....WOW!
This is very professional looking, on par with Brain Age's readers. I like it better than DSO and moonshell's text readers.
The interface is really simple and easy on the eyes.
When you first boot up the nds file, there is a help tutorial on how to use this app. The tutorial is easily understandable.
Everything works flawlessly so far.
Some really cool points:
-When you touch the right side of the touch screen, you move a page forward.
-When you touch the left side of the touch screen, you move a page back
-you can change the font size (size 10,12,14) and style (bold or italic)
autosaves last page you were at
Some suggestions:
-include a function with the L and R buttons that allows you to skip 10 pages forward and back respectively
-Music? :)
Excellent work! I commend you!
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Problems I have:
How do you use the multiple fonts?
I followed your instructions and made a folder in my microSD's root directory called 'data'. In the data folder, I then made a folder called 'fonts'. I put all the .bfont files i into my fonts folder.
However, when I loaded ReadMore.nds, I only had the 3 default fonts.
The autosave function worked, so the 'states' folder I made in the fonts folder was working correctly.
BTW, I totally ignored the following 3 files and did not put them in my fonts folder:
ReadFont.cpp
mkbfont.py
fontformat.txt
#123043 - Darkflame - Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:39 pm
I'll check this out, a new reader is always welcome.
My current preferance is DSO, but I'll give this a trail :)
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#123047 - bjoerngiesler - Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:55 pm
Hi,
jbullfrog wrote: |
Excellent work! I commend you! |
Thanks :-)
jbullfrog wrote: |
-include a function with the L and R buttons that allows you to skip 10 pages forward and back respectively
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Good one. I've planned making a "goto page" dialog which lets you jump to any page directly; but shortcuts are always good. Only problem: The ergonomy of the L button is bad when you hold the DS on end. Would holding the R button (with the other hand) as a modifier for the Next and Previous buttons be a solution?
jbullfrog wrote: |
-Music? :)
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Err, nope. :-) This is a Keep-It-Small-and-Simple project. Managing MP3 playback in the background is a nightmare both from a programming and a GUI standpoint.
jbullfrog wrote: |
How do you use the multiple fonts?
I followed your instructions and made a folder in my microSD's root directory called 'data'. In the data folder, I then made a folder called 'fonts'. I put all the .bfont files i into my fonts folder.
However, when I loaded ReadMore.nds, I only had the 3 default fonts.
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That's strange, works flawlessly here. Can't be a flash cart issue either since you can open text files. Could you please double-check that the fonts are indeed in /data/fonts/*.bfont? Maybe I'll build a debug version that will do a bit of output when the font manager tries to load the fonts.
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#123051 - spinal_cord - Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:28 pm
Nice! I like it already.
Can I suggest an option for a later version? I think a brightness option (backlight) would be usefull, some people (me) sometimes find it hard to read from a bright white screen.
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#123053 - TJ - Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:40 pm
I have been looking forward to the release of this application for awhile now. Unfortunately, my damn wife has my Supercard right now, so I will have to wait until she gets home to try it.
#123054 - jbullfrog - Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:41 pm
Whoops! I thought all those .bfont files were different types of font.
I checked and saw that there are only 3 types of font and the rest of the files are for size, bold and italic.
Instead of making R and L skip pages, why not 'X' and 'B"? This way the back of the hand won't accidentally make any mistakes.
Though disappointing, I understand your argument about not incorporating music.
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Other suggestions:
backlight
clock/stopwatch/alarm
#123057 - bjoerngiesler - Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:55 pm
Hi,
jbullfrog wrote: |
I checked and saw that there are only 3 types of font and the rest of the files are for size, bold and italic. |
Great! So it does work. I'm glad about that.
jbullfrog wrote: |
backlight
clock/stopwatch/alarm |
Both very good points -- at least the backlight and clock features will come. Stopwatch/alarm aren't features I'd associate with a book -- you mean something like "remind me at eight if I become too immersed with my reading"? Hmm, maybe.
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#123066 - HyperHacker - Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:47 pm
In addition to backlight control, screen brightness control might be a nice addition. You simply adjust a register and everything gets darker or brighter automatically.
If it's not too difficult, I'm sure an option to invert colours would be appreciated by many. Maybe a background image (just load a bitmap behind the text layer, let the user worry about choosing an image that doesn't make it unreadable). I don't know just how simple you have in mind. I certainly wouldn't expect you to add MP3 playing, because then you'd have to add OGG and FLAC and SPC and blah blah and fix a bunch of bugs and hack around the DS's low-quality sound hardware... Moonlight already made a program for this if you must listen to music while reading.
Also I don't know how many people would agree with me, but there's two things I like to see in every DS app: On-screen clock and temperature (at least on a pause menu or similar), and support for rebootlib/libcartreset/etc. Again, not much effort required for either.
As for controls, the touch screen idea is nice, but if I may make a suggestion: Up=previous page, Down=next page. Right and Left could be next/previous line, change font size, skip multiple pages, etc. X=previous chapter, B=next chapter, Start opens a touch-screen menu to select, add, or remove a bookmark. Then you still have Select, A, Y and R for whatever else. L would be best unused so you don't accidentally press it. Of course, these can be swapped if you want to have it held the other way. Heh, maybe use the DS Motion Card to detect how the user is holding the DS, and rotate the text to match. ;-)
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#123067 - bjoerngiesler - Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:56 pm
HyperHacker wrote: |
In addition to backlight control, screen brightness control might be a nice addition. You simply adjust a register and everything gets darker or brighter automatically. |
Never heard of that -- what register is that?
HyperHacker wrote: |
If it's not too difficult, I'm sure an option to invert colours would be appreciated by many. |
No problem at all, but I've never understood this: Every book on this planet is black on white. I don't get why anyone would want a white on black book?! Point taken, though; white on black will come.
HyperHacker wrote: |
Maybe a background image (just load a bitmap behind the text layer, let the user worry about choosing an image that doesn't make it unreadable). |
Hmm. I think that just about any background structure (that is representable on the low color depth of the DS) makes the text less readable. I.e., a texture that looks like hand-made paper would look very precious, but that's very hard to get right if you only have 15bpp. Since readability is paramount for this program, don't count on this.
HyperHacker wrote: |
On-screen clock and temperature (at least on a pause menu or similar), and support for rebootlib/libcartreset/etc. Again, not much effort required for either. |
Clock's already in. Temperature? Why the heck would I like a book to tell me how hot it is, especially if I'm holding it in my hand? Rebootlib etc.: Good point, will see about that.
HyperHacker wrote: |
Of course, these can be swapped if you want to have it held the other way. Heh, maybe use the DS Motion Card to detect how the user is holding the DS, and rotate the text to match. ;-) |
The controls will stay much like they are now, with a few careful additions. Left hand/right hand stuff is easy with my GUI lib; I just don't know if left-handers will gain anything from holding the DS differently in an app like this. Anyone comment?
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#123070 - tepples - Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:03 pm
bjoerngiesler wrote: |
HyperHacker wrote: | In addition to backlight control, screen brightness control might be a nice addition. You simply adjust a register and everything gets darker or brighter automatically. |
Never heard of that -- what register is that? |
Do you MASTER_BRIGHT at night?
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#123071 - HyperHacker - Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:09 pm
Brightness: See here. I seem to recall there being another one, perhaps this was it and I'm just not remembering it right, but anyway you set bits 14-15 to choose whether to go brighter or darker, and 0-4 for how much so.
Inversion: Reading a backlit screen is different from reading a book. Books are black on white because white on black would use terrible amounts of ink. ;-) Some people find it more comfortable to have inverted colours on a screen, mainly because it's not as bright that way while still being perfectly readable. (Also, I noticed a window with bright text on a black background is readable at up to 35% translucency while one with dark text on white is readable up to only 20% over the same background, but that's off topic.)
Backgrounds: Like I said, leave it up to the user to come up with an image that maintains readability. (I find taking an image and putting a 30% translucent solid white layer overtop works nicely; you can do this in most photo editors.) Do you mean to say there's no way you could even support backgrounds without killing readability? Seems if you just made all white pixels transparent (or doing it on a single layer, draw your background first and then text as normal), it should be fine assuming the background isn't too bad.
Controls: I find having the Dpad at the top is most comfortable when using the right hand, and vice-versa for the left, as this allows my fingers to easily reach the buttons.
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#123073 - Jeremysr - Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:16 pm
When I try to run it on my DS-X I get two white screens for 1 second then they both just turn off.
I know I patched it correctly with DLDI.
#123074 - bjoerngiesler - Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:18 pm
HyperHacker wrote: |
Brightness: See here. |
Thanks! (Also to tepples!)
HyperHacker wrote: |
Inversion: Reading a backlit screen is different from reading a book. |
Point taken.
HyperHacker wrote: |
Do you mean to say there's no way you could even support backgrounds without killing readability? |
No, no problem at all -- my GUI lib supports alpha backgrounds up to full translucency. The problem is more of a UI/SW one: Integrate a JPEG lib, make an image selection dialog with a preview, etc. We'll see.
HyperHacker wrote: |
Controls: I find having the Dpad at the top is most comfortable when using the right hand, and vice-versa for the left, as this allows my fingers to easily reach the buttons. |
Oh, OK -- I figured as a right hander you'd hold the DS in your left hand (to be able to use stylus and touch screen with your right), but I get your point. Maybe I'll put in handedness-switching. Your idea with the inertial sensor is very good, only I can't test it since I don't have such a thing.
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#123088 - Goner - Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:13 am
Very nice!!
The only problem I have is with e-books (in .txt format) themselves ; most are pre-formatted and lines break and wrap at different places depending on which reader/font one uses ... :(
#123107 - dantheman - Sun Mar 25, 2007 4:28 am
Goner, try downloading the GBA project called E-book Advance, which comes with two command-line programs, one of which should help you unwrap text.
The homepage is located at http://members.optushome.com.au/dancotter/ebook.htm and at least one of the three downloads should have the programs you're looking for.
#123114 - OSW - Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:25 am
Unfortunately i'm getting a black top screen and most of the top half of the touchscreen is white.
I'm using an EZ4 deluxe
I definitely patched it right, and even double checked by patching the original file again.
Sounds like a great program though! Kudos to you.
Edit: i also tested the unwrapping program above (in ebook03.zip) and successfully created an unwrapped txt file, although unfortunately quite a few words became joined i think as a result of a line space instead of a normal space.
#123115 - TJ - Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:50 am
The devil woman has returned with my flash equipment and I am now able to test the program. While I really like some of the things you have done (especially with the general presentation) overall my feelings are very mixed.
I had assumed that since you were going for a sideways setup with the screens you were going to let the text continue across from one screen to the other (with touch/D-Pad input scrolling the text up or down), finally creating a text reader for the DS that would display a respectable amount of characters per line. I was, for lack of a better word, dismayed that you had used each screen as it's own "page", which results in even less characters per line than the other readers available.
I am sure in today's world I am in the considerable minority; but all documents, articles, source code, notes, etc that I write are formatted to 80 characters per line so that it will display properly in both web browsers and standard terminal emulators. Unfortunately these are rendered nearly unreadable (at least to me) on every DS text reader available.
As for some more constructive criticism, I think that if the goal is to make it as book-like as possible, there should be at least a papery page turning noise to give the user a little feedback and make it feel more natural.
#123131 - Goner - Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:44 am
dantheman wrote: |
Goner, try downloading the GBA project called E-book Advance, which comes with two command-line programs, one of which should help you unwrap text. |
Got it ..
Sounds like a good idea, unwrapping ...
Don't know why, but the e-books I downloaded (Lewis Caroll & Edgar A. Poe) are all wrapped at pos. 41.
So I wanted to break them at another position, but unwrapping and having the e-reader wrap them is probably a better idea!!
Thanks!
#123134 - Puyo - Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:04 pm
Quite cool little app. Has a few problems:
-Backlight on top screen is off
-Creates unwanted files
-Needs progress bar when loading file
-Tapping at the bottom doesn`t open file load dialog
So, when the lib is going to be released?
#123135 - jbullfrog - Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:07 pm
More suggestions:
open .rtf documents, which are much cleaner than .txt documents
make the progress bar just a tad thicker
Automatic word wrap the text
in some of the documents I opened, the wrapping was all messed up with some lines completely filled and other lines with only one word in it
#123155 - bjoerngiesler - Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:25 pm
Puyo wrote: |
-Backlight on top screen is off |
Strange. Doesn't happen here...
Puyo wrote: |
-Creates unwanted files |
Maybe. But it solves the problem of re-paginating the text file every time you open it. Also, without extra files, how do you save bookmarks?
Puyo wrote: |
So, when the lib is going to be released? |
As soon as this goes into final. There's too much motion in the lib still to open it to the public.
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#123159 - bjoerngiesler - Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:39 pm
jbullfrog wrote: |
open .rtf documents, which are much cleaner than .txt documents |
HTML, RTF and other ("real") Ebook formats will come. The architecture is already there; I want everything else done before I work on a HTML parser, though.
jbullfrog wrote: |
make the progress bar just a tad thicker |
Hmm. I kinda like the one-line bar, since it looks like the hair line many professional layouts use. Maybe just adapt the contrast?
jbullfrog wrote: |
Automatic word wrap the text |
I think you mean "skip single newlines" in files that are line-wrapped at ~80chars per line. This will definitely come very soon.
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#123160 - bjoerngiesler - Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:47 pm
TJ wrote: |
I am sure in today's world I am in the considerable minority; but all documents, articles, source code, notes, etc that I write are formatted to 80 characters per line so that it will display properly in both web browsers and standard terminal emulators. |
I feel your pain. The thing is that the documents you are referring to are word-wrapped to be read in a fixed-width font (otherwise, wrapping at n characters per line doesn't make any sense).
The DS's screen resolution, 256 pixels wide, would mean 3.2 pixels per character at 80 characters per line. Your suggestion, using 2*192 pixels by holding the DS upright and making one virtual screen from the two screens, would leave 4.8 pixels per character. Subtract one pixel for inter-char spacing, and you end up with 2.2 or 3.8 pixels. That is not a readable size.
I'm afraid displaying standard 80cpl text is just not feasible with the DS. The best thing we can do is re-wrap the text to fit the DS's screens.
Now, I also agree that 192 pixels doesn't make for very long lines, but I think the 2*192 pixel layout with the large bar in the middle isn't very readable either.
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#123166 - dantheman - Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:57 pm
It's not a very practical solution, but it's possible to make a semi-readable 3x5 font, as demonstrated below:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/3x5font.png
It at least packs in the text, and considering 3 pixels per character and 1 character space, you could get 96 characters in 384 pixels, but it does have the problem of being almost too small to read.
#123168 - MasterMan - Sun Mar 25, 2007 8:32 pm
Please, if you go for the 384x256 sugestion above, keep the 2 * 192x256 actual display optional. I love that scheme more than DSO and Moonshell just for the bookish way.
And think with me, who uses DS to code or read something wich is obrigatory in 80cpl?
I like every aspect of the visual, just have some ideas (and i think more already are in):
- "Go to page" dialog box.
- Display page number in the way "actual / total".
- Semi-transparent onscreen clock.
- Show only readible files in open file dialog.
- Multiple formats reader: TXT, HTML, RTF...
- Image rendering in HTML and RTF.
- Sonore feedback when page changes / click on things.
- "Select background" dialog, wich lists various tiles kept on \data\tiles\ (JPG or PNG). So we could have the "organic paper" discussed before.
BTW, this is the second app from you wich is in the "my fav apps" category.
Thank you.
#123172 - tepples - Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:23 pm
Holding the DS normally (not sideways) allows the use of 3-pixel-wide fonts that use subpixel antialiasing at the cost of some color artifacts. I seem to remember an old DS demo that allowed 80 columns in 240 pixels.
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#123187 - HyperHacker - Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:15 am
bjoerngiesler wrote: |
The problem is more of a UI/SW one: Integrate a JPEG lib, make an image selection dialog with a preview, etc. |
Pfft. Bitmaps would be fine, a 256x384 16-bit bitmap would be a mere 192K. Just allow your file selector to select .bmp files as well, and make them the background. You could then later add JPEG, preview etc once the more important things are done.
Can you post the font file for that, or is that one of the ones that comes with the program?
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#123204 - dantheman - Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:58 am
Sure. Photobucket automatically converts bitmaps to JPEGs, so I saved this in PNG format to prevent that. Convert back to bitmap before using.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/small-white.png
It's not very complete, as it only contains the numbers, capital letters, and a few symbols. It isn't the complete ASCII set at all.
#123209 - bjoerngiesler - Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:00 am
dantheman wrote: |
It's not a very practical solution, but it's possible to make a semi-readable 3x5 font, as demonstrated below:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/3x5font.png
It at least packs in the text, and considering 3 pixels per character and 1 character space, you could get 96 characters in 384 pixels, but it does have the problem of being almost too small to read. |
Indeed, I wouldn't consider that readable (and let's not talk about the subpixel fonts tepples mentioned -- valiant effort, yes; readable, no). But tell you what: Why don't you build a .bfont out of that? The format doc comes in the fonts subdir of the ReadMore zip, it's really simple. Then I will add it to the distro and add a landscape mode that allows for 80chars/line, so the 80char people are satisfied. :-)
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#123213 - theli - Mon Mar 26, 2007 7:36 am
bjoerngiesler wrote: |
HTML, RTF and other ("real") Ebook formats will come. The architecture is already there; I want everything else done before I work on a HTML parser, though. |
i doubt if anyone knows of this but in my experience it's the best suited format for ebook reading.....
http://fictionbook.org/index.php/Eng:FictionBook
#123235 - OSW - Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:23 am
OSW wrote: |
Unfortunately i'm getting a black top screen and most of the top half of the touchscreen is white.
I'm using an EZ4 deluxe |
anyone else tested with an ez4?
#123304 - dantheman - Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:56 am
bjoerngiesler wrote: |
Indeed, I wouldn't consider that readable (and let's not talk about the subpixel fonts tepples mentioned -- valiant effort, yes; readable, no). But tell you what: Why don't you build a .bfont out of that? The format doc comes in the fonts subdir of the ReadMore zip, it's really simple. Then I will add it to the distro and add a landscape mode that allows for 80chars/line, so the 80char people are satisfied. :-) |
I attempted to follow the instructions, but I ended up getting lost about halfway through. I decided that the best way would be to convert it from a .ttf file, but I was unable to figure out how to create one of those with a font that small. I found a similar font that's already in .ttf format at http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/341201/ but when I attempt to convert it I get the following:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v41/danthemanms/convert_log.png
I'm at a loss as to how I should proceed.
EDIT: alright, after some Googling I found that I had to install PIL, so I did so and now it compiles. The .bfont file is at http://danthemanms.googlepages.com/Quark_Normal_6.bfont but I haven't tested it myself yet.
EDIT 2: I wonder why it isn't coming out as good as the preview image of the font itself showed. On the DS, the "B" looks like a "C" and other letters have blank areas. How odd. At least it's small enough to fit about 50 characters per line per screen, which should be more than enough for the 80 characters per line in dual screen mode, as long as the line doesn't consist entirely of Ws and Ms and Qs.
#123316 - TJ - Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:21 am
Yeah, that is definitely small enough to get 80 characters per line if you used both screens. Smaller than it needs to be really, you could make it a bit bigger and still have enough room.
As for the readability of it...well, it does look rather like the font used in Metal Gear but very tiny. It is certainly clear enough to read without straining, though obviously not ideal either.
#123567 - MasterMan - Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:58 am
Ah, could we have a windows app wich converts TTF fonts in BFONT format?
Even a simple CLI exe does the job :)
#123569 - TJ - Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:21 am
It is just a Python script. It has thankfully been a long time since I was forced into using a Windows computer, but certainly it must be capable of running Python scripts with the interpreter installed.
#123576 - bjoerngiesler - Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:17 am
TJ wrote: |
It is just a Python script. It has thankfully been a long time since I was forced into using a Windows computer, but certainly it must be capable of running Python scripts with the interpreter installed. |
I can attest that it runs on Windows machines, as it was developed on one ;-)
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#123577 - Kir - Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:43 am
Hmm... It seems that conversion script is broken somehow...
I tried to convert few TTF fonts , but all i got was a mess of half-cut characters. Very strange, because .PNG image was just fine. Maybe there's a bug in character width definition, which causes font characters to become cut in a half. I've tried all font sizes - 8,10,12,14 , but with no luck.
#123694 - OOPMan - Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:36 am
Hey bjorn, nice app, to start.
Anyway, I'm not sure if anyone else has posted about this, but here goes.
While using ReadMore I noticed that there is a delay, about 1 second, between page turn and page render. It's not a killer problem, but it is mildly irritating.
I'm guessing that the app renders each page as it turns to it, correct?
Well, anyway, I think it would be useful if you could implement the following method.
Once a page has been loaded, wait for a short period to determine if the user is rapidly paging through opened text file. If the user does not hit page forward or page back, then you can assume that he/she is going to read the page. This gives you a period of time in which you can do stuff. Of course, said period is variable, but there is probably a minimum amount of time in which you can expect a reader to make their way through the text available.
I would suggest rendering the next set of pages in this time period available.
Obviously, next is a relative term in this context, as the user may, for some inane reason, be reading from back to front.
So, what you could do is as follows:
After rendering page 1, wait a short period to see if the user is paging immediately. If not, start rendering page 2.
Now, the user hits next page and goes to 2. You bring 2 from the buffer and display it immediately, while storing the previous page (page 1) in another buffer. You wait the requisite time, and the start rendering page 3.
Now, for something more complex.
Your user has turned to page 3, read some, and decided to go back to page 2.
You turn back, bring page 2 from the backup buffer, and store page 3 (The previous page) in a new backup buffer. You wait the requisite amount of time, then start rendering page 1 in a buffer.
It could be a useful thing to implement, as it would allow for faster traversal...
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#123716 - dantheman - Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:51 pm
In leiu of actually figuring out how to make my own 3x5 font a .ttf file for quick conversion, I decided to merely upload my font file for the GBA Book Reader program. It doesn't really help ReadMore at all, but it can give you a feel for how it looks in action. As the download link for the MakeBook installer is down, I uploaded that as well.
http://dannysied.googlepages.com/gbbook.exe
http://dannysied.googlepages.com/smallwhite.gbf
Install Makebook and then put smallwhite.gbf into its folder in Program Files. I think I'm going to change a few letters here and there to make them slightly more readable, though for some letters like N and W I can't really do much about aside from making them wider.
#123726 - bjoerngiesler - Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:54 pm
OOPMan wrote: |
While using ReadMore I noticed that there is a delay, about 1 second, between page turn and page render. It's not a killer problem, but it is mildly irritating. |
I can see that it would be -- 1s is a lot. Since I don't have that here, though (here it's about 1/4s), I suppose the flash cart is at fault, since ReadMore reads each page on page turn to be able to access documents that are too large for the DS' memory. That may change in the future, though -- I'm still trying to figure out how to fseek() to the right spot in a file if the file's contents are not what is actually displayed on screen, such as with RTF or HTML files.
As to your scheme: I don't think it's really that helpful. If I'm paging through the text slowly (i.e. to read it), I don't mind the delay that much. And if I'm paging quickly (i.e. to find a specific spot in the text), the scheme doesn't help. I'd rather get page access and rendering optimized without resorting to background hacks...
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#123733 - TJ - Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:04 pm
I did notice a delay, but it wasn't that long, maybe a half a second. Enough to be noticeable, and definitely something that could be improved upon, but it wasn't terrible.
One thing I did remember today was the "Repaginatiing" message box that you get when you change font sizes. It appears to complete the process nearly instantaneously, yet the window stays up with the "OK" button until you press it. The first time this popped up I must have sat there for 2 minutes just staring at it, because I thought that it was actively doing something.
I don't think the user-input for that window is necessary at all. It should only stay up for the duration of whatever background process is going on to recalculate the pages.
#123737 - tepples - Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:23 pm
dantheman wrote: |
I think I'm going to change a few letters here and there to make them slightly more readable, though for some letters like N and W I can't really do much about aside from making them wider. |
N could be more readable if you make it an upside-down U, like the lowercase letter:
Code: |
. . O O . O O O . . O . . O O . . O O O . O O . .
. O . . . . O . . O . O . O . O . O . . . O . O .
. . O . . . O . . O . O . O . O . O O O . O O . .
. . . O . . O . . O . O . O . O . O . . . O . O .
. O O . . . O . . . O . . O . O . O O O . O . O .
|
Going to a proportional font would be a good idea too, as the glyph for ' ' (space) wouldn't be as wide.
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#123779 - dantheman - Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:52 am
I messed with making the S look like that earlier today, but I concluded that it took away too many pixels and looked lopsided. The N I was also thinking about, as that's the way the Quark font does it, and it seems readable enough that I can deal with the change. I've modified the K and R to match the Quark one as well to increase readability, though I'm keeping my blocky O and 0 and my skinny M and W.
I've also reduced the space to 2 pixels in width instead of 4, and I've changed all punctuation and symbols to use the smallest width as well. The end result is that I'm able to get at least 50 letters and numbers per line, more if punctuation is used.
http://dannysied.googlepages.com/smallwhite2.gbf
#123838 - OOPMan - Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:47 pm
bjoerngiesler wrote: |
OOPMan wrote: | While using ReadMore I noticed that there is a delay, about 1 second, between page turn and page render. It's not a killer problem, but it is mildly irritating. |
I can see that it would be -- 1s is a lot. Since I don't have that here, though (here it's about 1/4s), I suppose the flash cart is at fault, since ReadMore reads each page on page turn to be able to access documents that are too large for the DS' memory. That may change in the future, though -- I'm still trying to figure out how to fseek() to the right spot in a file if the file's contents are not what is actually displayed on screen, such as with RTF or HTML files.
As to your scheme: I don't think it's really that helpful. If I'm paging through the text slowly (i.e. to read it), I don't mind the delay that much. And if I'm paging quickly (i.e. to find a specific spot in the text), the scheme doesn't help. I'd rather get page access and rendering optimized without resorting to background hacks... |
Nothing hackish about taking advantage of the fact that people take time to read. Anyway, if you can optimise the render times such that there is no delay, that's fine.
Are you streaming text off the media as you changes pages? That would be kind of wasteful, if it means that you only ever store two pages worth of text in the memory at a time. It would be better to pre-buffer more than just the current/upcoming page. Maybe allocate 64kb of fast memory as a text buffer and use some clever memory managment to minimise individual reads.
Well, whatever the case may be, I don't think pre-rendering future pages is hackish, it just makes sense. After all, what else are you planning to do with the CPU in the 5s, maybe less, it takes me to read both pages?
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#123924 - tuLL - Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:26 pm
Hello there
I tried your application and patched it with DLDI for M3 SD (lite perfect in this case) and all went well apart from there not being light on the top screen (or left screen). I can see the text there but the screen is not lit.
I also tried to patch it with a powerall patch that was made for the M3 devices and it also didn't work.
I really like your app, I just want to suggest you add the option for black page with white letters. I much prefer to read on that setting, and it is easier on the eyes I think :)
Thanks
EDIT: Added friendly smiley:D
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#123926 - Hospodar - Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:01 pm
tuLL wrote: |
Hello there
I tried your application and patched it with DLDI for M3 SD (lite perfect in this case) and all went well apart from there not being light on the top screen (or left screen). I can see the text there but the screen is not lit.
I also tried to patch it with a powerall patch that was made for the M3 devices and it also didn't work.
I really like your app, I just want to suggest you add the option for black page with letters. I much prefer to read on that setting.
Thanks |
Hi, i have de same problem, the top screen don't have light, i have as well a m3 lite perfect, i patch the aplication whit de dldi and all, but the problem persist, any solution?, the aplication is really awesome but with this problem..., well thanks in any case, regards
#123956 - AnalogMan - Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:31 am
I tired your program with a Supercard Lite. It works fine. I do notice however, on size 10 of the default font (I didn't want the other font folders) that the capitol 'I' has an odd dot below and to the right. Also, some words will be cut off and continue on the next page, as well as whole or half blank pages that continue on the next page (always on the right [touch screen]). If you'd like, I can link to the TXT file I used so you may try to read it yourself. Also, is there a way to not make a bookmark file unless a bookmark has been placed? And be deleted after it's been emptied? When I'm done reading and remove all the bookmarks, the bookmark file is still there.
#124289 - bobslack - Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:43 pm
Goner wrote: |
Very nice!!
The only problem I have is with e-books (in .txt format) themselves ; most are pre-formatted and lines break and wrap at different places depending on which reader/font one uses ... :( |
I had this problem, which is why i created The Moon Books Project. I don't know about newer versions of MoonShell, but with the one I use (the latest to support the rumble) It's easiest to read the books which are formatted to a 40 character width.
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#124290 - bobslack - Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:03 pm
Goner wrote: |
Don't know why, but the e-books I downloaded (Lewis Caroll & Edgar A. Poe) are all wrapped at pos. 41.
So I wanted to break them at another position, but unwrapping and having the e-reader wrap them is probably a better idea!!
Thanks! |
er... that's probably my fault ;) if you downloaded em from the moon books project that is. i basically reformatted the files to be readable on moon shell.
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#124387 - pas - Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:30 pm
@bj?rn: you got pm ^^
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#124393 - bjoerngiesler - Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:03 pm
Hey,
just to give everyone an update as to what's planned for the next release, and since requests keep piling up, here's my list for the beta. I'm not totally certain yet that all of this will come, but many things will. Also, the beta release will be a feature freeze to get everything stable for the final version, so what's not in this list will probably not be in the final. If anyone still comes up with very good ideas that should make this list, I will edit it.
o List of last visited files
o Double buffered drawing
o Page flip animation
o Black on white rendering
o Backlight / contrast setting
o Goto page # dialog
o Go back/forth 10 pages
o Clock (configurable 12/24h, seconds)
o Background image
o Actual/total page display
o Skip single newlines (deals with txt files preformatted for a certain number of columns)
o Switch Portrait/Landscape mode
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#124399 - pas - Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:32 pm
;) Great App
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#124405 - tepples - Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:13 pm
bjoerngiesler wrote: |
o Skip single newlines (deals with txt files preformatted for a certain number of columns) |
Newlines followed by a space character shouldn't be skipped, as those are often indentations for a new paragraph or a list item.
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#124448 - OSW - Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:50 am
Sounds excellent! i hope the next beta or final will work for me XD
Shouldn't matter cuz i'm getting a new flashcart anyway i guess.
#125493 - bjoerngiesler - Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:50 pm
Hi,
I'm revamping the file concept. The current version only loads the displayed part of a file. That causes problems with some memory cards (too slow), and it's hard to paginate non-txt file formats that way.
Therefore I'd like to know if it's possible to load the entire Ebook into memory at once. So, what's the largest Ebook file you folks have? Would ~3MB be enough?
Thanks,
Bj?rn
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#125506 - toma - Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:21 am
4.12MB is my biggest, but it's the bible so i could break it up into books or even just OT and NT
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#125508 - TJ - Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:36 am
3 MB certainly seems more than acceptable for plain text. I don't think I even have a ASCII text document larger than 1 MB.
#125516 - OSW - Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:24 am
5.2 mbytes is my largest, some kind of fable dictionary or something
and i could easily split it into 2 files.
All the rest of mine are under 1.3 mbytes.
So i think 2 or 3 is more than acceptable too.
#125539 - bjoerngiesler - Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:32 am
TJ wrote: |
3 MB certainly seems more than acceptable for plain text. I don't think I even have a ASCII text document larger than 1 MB. |
How about other formats? Unmodified ASCII text can be streamed quite easily -- HTML, RTF and modified ASCII (line breaks stripped) are much harder. So how about HTML and RTF documents?
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#125886 - DiGiTaL_SiN - Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:37 pm
You dont know how long i've been looking for something EXACTLY like this.
This is IMHO one of the best homebrew apps out there for the DS and i'm looking forward for it growing bigger and better in the future.
I'll report suggestions and bugs as soon as i spot them to help out a little bit.
Thanks again!
UPDATE:
Alright, after i've tested the app a little bit I've found:
1)Tapping the file name doesn't open the file selection menu, it opens some sort of on screen keyboard.
2)Creating a directory called data/states/ doesn't do anything, the app doesn't resume your last opened file if you launch it again.
3)The menu button doesn't have a shutdown function for the DS
4)Bookmarks aren't saved after shutting down the DS and reopening the App.
5)After loading a file, sometimes it refuses to load any other one after it and a msg comes up saying "can't load file."
6)The bookmarks do not appear on the progress line.
I'm using a R4 slotcart and the nds file was patched with the dldi correctly (i can open txt files just fine). I'm guessing bug 2 and 4 has something to do with write access on the R4.
I've formatted the R4 fat16 (as recommended by a users on R4 forums)
#126191 - argus - Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:32 pm
I love this app. Here is my constructive criticism:
-- A page turning sound would be nice.
-- Please, please do not create so many files in my text file directory! Why not put those files in the data/whatever folder so I don't have to look at them? Maybe you could even put all of that data into -one- master file somewhere in the /data directory.
-- If you must create all of the files in my text folder, how about this: make the Readmore load menu only show .txt files. Those are the only files that can be opened, right? Basically, I just don't want to see all of that clutter if it has to be there. If you could make those .bkmk and .pagin files "hidden" (so most file browsers don't have to see them), then that would be even better.
-- I can understand the pagination thing, but I haven't used any bookmarks yet and I'm buried in .bkmk files. Could you just create them when a bookmark gets created?
-- The readme says I can tap the file name to bring up the "open" menu, but I haven't been able to get that to work.
-- The progress bar should be a little thicker and easier to see. Maybe it could be 4 pixels tall with more contrast?
-- I would love to set my default font size to 12 (instead of 10) so I wouldn't have to change it every time I open a new file.
-- I'd just love some options overall. Maybe I'm not the typical user, but I don't want it to automatically go back to where I last was in a file (I'm using it for reference reading - not novels). You could do options in an .ini file (easier than programming an options menu), and casual users wouldn't have to mess with anything if they don't want to.
-- The load menu scroll bar seems unresponsive or awkward sometimes. It's hard to explain. Is it just me?
-- I like advancing pages with the d-pad. Could you map some of the other functions (like opening the menu) to buttons as well? That way I wouldn't have to use the stylus at all.
Basically, I'm using Readmore to look at reference material, short articles, FAQs, etc. It does an excellent job so far, and I love the "book" style. Hey, how about automatically showing a graphic book cover with the file name on it? That would be clever.
Aside from these requests, Readmore runs great and is very useful. I'm using a Supercard Lite with a Sandisk Ultra II microSD card. I haven't noticed the page delay that other people have mentioned, so I think having a fast card helps.
#126231 - DiGiTaL_SiN - Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:49 am
I'm using an R4DS and i've also noticed no lag while turning pages.
BTW, where exactly should i create this Data directory, because wherever i make one it doesn't make any difference. It doesn't resume my book progress when i load it again or read any more than 3 font styles.
right now, readmore is in a directory inside my R4 that looks like this:
X:\Homebrew\Readmore\
if I create DATA\ directory in the root of the drive like this:
X:\DATA\Fonts\ and X:\DATA\States\
all that happens is that readmore lists just two more fonts in the font list (eventhough the font directory has like a ton) and nothing else. it doesn't resume or create any .ini files anywhere.
if i create DATA\ directory in the root of the application folder like this:
X:\Homebrew\Readmore\DATA\
nothing is different, and no fonts are loaded at all.
#126337 - toitoi - Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:31 pm
First of all, big thanks for the reader, it's the best and really needed homebrew I ever seen. It so good and I think it is not alpha version it's the first version. :)
I used gba bookreader http://www.bookreader.co.uk/ for a long time before I lost my gameboy.
But now I'm happy with the "Readmore reader".
All is great and usable but personally I did not like the anti-aliased fonts, the look dirty to me. I
made my own pixel fonts (they are Cyrillic to).
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I had only one problem: In the bookmarks menu the local fonts are not shown correctly, I used Cyrillic.
Here are some suggestions and thoughts. The main needed option in my opinion is the sleep mode when you close the DS
SUGGESTIONS
1. sleep mode when u close the DS
2. please make the right file listing how it must be for example:
diskroot\Readmore
diskroot\Readmore\DATA\Fonts <------ place for the font files
diskroot\Readmore\DATA\States <------ place for the temporary files
diskroot\Readmore\Books <------ place for the text files
diskroot\Readmore\Books\Bmarks <------ place for the text bookmarks
3. Make the ability to change buttons for different functions like in games. The most needed option for me is using the "R" button for forward paging when u have the DS in your left hand.
4. The ability to use only upper screen in horizontal mode in case the DS lies on the table
5. The dialog or the option in the down menu to see with the percentage of reading
6. Better opening files menu
7. More bookmarks than three
8. Full screen mode: the option to see only text without the down menu
9. There is no need in the file name in the down panel. It would be more logical to see there the page number
Things that should be optional I really don't like them
1. clock - the screen is already to small to have it (may be like the part of the dialog)
2. background image - not functional
3. Page flip animation - not functional at all
Thanks for reader Bjoern.
ps: you can download my fonts here http://ifolder.ru/1766440
#126375 - HyperHacker - Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:01 pm
toitoi wrote: |
2. please make the right file listing how it must be for example:
diskroot\Readmore
diskroot\Readmore\DATA\Fonts <------ place for the font files
diskroot\Readmore\DATA\States <------ place for the temporary files
diskroot\Readmore\Books <------ place for the text files
diskroot\Readmore\Books\Bmarks <------ place for the text bookmarks |
I think you mean:
/DATA/Readmore/Fonts
/DATA/Readmore/States
/DATA/Readmore/Books
/DATA/Readmore/Bmarks
for that matter, text files shouldn't have to be in any specific directory.
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#126641 - bjoerngiesler - Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:45 am
Hi,
OK, thx all for the positive and great feedback! A new version will be out soon, probably next week, which will be much better than the alpha. And expect even more exciting news in the future!
That said, let me try to address your points. I like some suggestions, don't like others.
o there will be a page turning animation (can be disabled), but no sound. That'd get on my nerves real quick.
o The bkmk and pagin files are necessary, and I'd much rather put them with the files they belong to than collect them in a separate dir. I'll prefix them with a dot, so they don't show up in file browsers.
o The introduction says a lot of things, many of them incorrect. :-) I've changed that. Right now, tapping the filename opens the file browser, tapping the (new) right-hand page label opens a "goto page" dialog, tapping the menu button opens the menu, and tapping the screen elsewhere goes one page back/forward. There is no shutdown menu entry.
o The buttons will stay as they are; I'm not planning on configurable buttons. Holding R while pressing next/previous goes 10 pages forward/back.
o Fonts are changeable.
o Progress bar is a bit bigger.
o Bookmarks will stay limited to three.
Regards,
Bj?rn
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#126705 - HyperHacker - Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:52 am
bjoerngiesler wrote: |
there will be a page turning animation (can be disabled), but no sound. That'd get on my nerves real quick. |
If this is the only reason not to have it, why not make it optional? (Though I'm guessing it's certainly not the only reason, seems like a lot of extra work for something minor.)
Quote: |
The bkmk and pagin files are necessary, and I'd much rather put them with the files they belong to than collect them in a separate dir. I'll prefix them with a dot, so they don't show up in file browsers. |
Set the Hidden flag too, so any decent browser will hide it.
Quote: |
The buttons will stay as they are; I'm not planning on configurable buttons. Holding R while pressing next/previous goes 10 pages forward/back. |
Configurable buttons is pretty easy to do, really. E.g. in your code where you check for KEY_R, check for NextKey or something like that instead. Read the value of NextKey from a file and default it to KEY_R. Voila.
Quote: |
Bookmarks will stay limited to three. |
I don't think I've ever seen a book with even three bookmarks in it. Maybe useful for reference I guess.
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#127588 - Mr.Peanut - Thu May 03, 2007 1:17 pm
I have not yet tested your book reader but I look forward to doing so and have been waiting for one for the DS for a year now. I still use my GBASP as a book reader because it is more portable and has the best book reader made for a gaming device ever. The other reason I still prefer my old GBASP to read books is that the display is less sharp; I can not stand reading text where I can see each individual pixel.
You might want to check the GBA book reader out to see what features it offers. You can find the web site here. (Just download his preformatted Sherlock Holmes book and try it on your ds.) It comes with a many featured PC text formatting program(that also fixes EOL issues). Its best feature is that it uses a simple markup that you can use to mark chapters, sections, etc, and link to them through a table of contents. The R button switches between book/chapter/page/line modes. The L button turns the menus on and off to give more room for text . It also displays jpegs and plays midis.
My wishlist for a bookreader does not include any sound features although jpg viewing is sometimes useful.
My wish list:
1) Simple markup to allow marking chapters and inserting links into text.(This editing would be done on a PC not the DS)
2)Colors fully adjustable for font and background.
3)Controls similar to the GBA book reader.
4)Flip view for book and non-book style reading. Not everyone likes holding the ds sideways. You also get more words per line holding the ds normally which makes for better reading IMO than just getting 4-5 words per line.
5)Users can install their own DS fonts.
6)At least 10 bookmarks per text.
Anyhow that is my two cents on what makes a good reader. I look forward to trying yours soon!
#127693 - Mr.Peanut - Fri May 04, 2007 2:33 am
Download link broken.... :((
#128033 - ChuckMcB - Mon May 07, 2007 10:15 pm
Download link is working fine here.
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#128066 - Dudu.exe - Tue May 08, 2007 7:18 am
some one has to ask kevnic the Beup code.. by license HtheB should released it ( organized or not ), that was his first mistake
Beup is a Open project, anyone has wrights to access the sources!
and look likes HtheB will not show his face after the neo compo episode..
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#128091 - Tikker - Tue May 08, 2007 3:25 pm
good thing that the HtheB hate is overflowing into everyone's threads now
#128098 - Lick - Tue May 08, 2007 4:29 pm
Tikker: "everyone's threads", that's kind of an exaggeration, is it not?
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#128100 - Tikker - Tue May 08, 2007 4:37 pm
Lick wrote: |
Tikker: "everyone's threads", that's kind of an exaggeration, is it not? |
yes
obviously the reply was in the wrong thread
attempt at minor humour has failed
#128260 - joedodgy - Thu May 10, 2007 1:24 am
Hey bjoerngiesler, any closer to releasing the next version? Can't wait to see the improvements.
#128461 - bjoerngiesler - Fri May 11, 2007 5:53 pm
Currently testing. Expect something new next week.
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#128522 - joedodgy - Sat May 12, 2007 7:59 am
Looking forward to it.
#128593 - pegasus_777 - Sun May 13, 2007 7:17 am
ReadMore problems with EZFlash V
Anyone have it running with EZflash V? I have that flash cart and I am experiencing some problems:
Load File -> when a dialog box pops up, NOTHING is shown. No files nothing. I see the box called "OPEN" and an empty structure with CANCEL and OK button. The directory it gives me is indicated on title is "\"
Fonts -> only 1 font is shown. Bitstream Vera Sans with font size 8, 10, 12. Pressing "Bold" and "Italic" gives "Error".
I have directory structure created. They are on H:\data\fonts\ with all the font files in them and a H:\data\states\ which is currently empty.
(H: is when I read it using my SD adapter on my PC)
And i cant see the "Quit" or "reboot" command that the feature list seems to mention. Only see "Bookmarks", "Load File", "Change Font", "Help".
I love the look of this, but really really need help on what I did wrong. I have already DLDI-ed the NDS files. HELP me someone, anyone!
-- Distressed and Sleepless
*Edited: I found it. Turns out i needed a DLDI fix that also changes the gamecode to PASS. Sorry about the false alarm. This one rocks!*
#128983 - minnie - Thu May 17, 2007 11:23 am
Quote: |
Load File -> when a dialog box pops up, NOTHING is shown. No files nothing. I see the box called "OPEN" and an empty structure with CANCEL and OK button. The directory it gives me is indicated on title is "\"
Fonts -> only 1 font is shown. Bitstream Vera Sans with font size 8, 10, 12. Pressing "Bold" and "Italic" gives "Error".
I have directory structure created. They are on H:\data\fonts\ with all the font files in them and a H:\data\states\ which is currently empty.
(H: is when I read it using my SD adapter on my PC)
And i cant see the "Quit" or "reboot" command that the feature list seems to mention. Only see "Bookmarks", "Load File", "Change Font", "Help".
I love the look of this, but really really need help on what I did wrong. I have already DLDI-ed the NDS files. |
I use the flashcard R4DS and have nearly the same problem as pegasus_777. I?ve tried the things pegasus did, but the problems are still there!
Can anyobody help me?
#129048 - rhdubisky - Fri May 18, 2007 2:57 pm
minnie wrote: |
Quote: | Load File -> when a dialog box pops up, NOTHING is shown. No files nothing. I see the box called "OPEN" and an empty structure with CANCEL and OK button. The directory it gives me is indicated on title is "\"
Fonts -> only 1 font is shown. Bitstream Vera Sans with font size 8, 10, 12. Pressing "Bold" and "Italic" gives "Error".
I have directory structure created. They are on H:\data\fonts\ with all the font files in them and a H:\data\states\ which is currently empty.
(H: is when I read it using my SD adapter on my PC)
And i cant see the "Quit" or "reboot" command that the feature list seems to mention. Only see "Bookmarks", "Load File", "Change Font", "Help".
I love the look of this, but really really need help on what I did wrong. I have already DLDI-ed the NDS files. |
I use the flashcard R4DS and have nearly the same problem as pegasus_777. I?ve tried the things pegasus did, but the problems are still there!
Can anyobody help me? |
Try removing these files from your fonts directory:
ReadFont.cpp
mkbfont.py
Fontformat.txt
#129129 - minnie - Sat May 19, 2007 10:19 am
I removed the files and it works now.
Thank you very much.
#129605 - Skjef - Thu May 24, 2007 3:46 am
Just wanted to say I really enjoy ReadMore, and I'm really looking forward to the new beta.
#129915 - Hospodar - Tue May 29, 2007 1:23 am
what happen with the new version? is going to be realese?, well in any case thanks, greetings
#130042 - chaapaaiguy - Wed May 30, 2007 1:44 pm
DiGiTaL_SiN wrote: |
You dont know how long i've been looking for something EXACTLY like this.
This is IMHO one of the best homebrew apps out there for the DS and i'm looking forward for it growing bigger and better in the future.
I'll report suggestions and bugs as soon as i spot them to help out a little bit.
Thanks again!
UPDATE:
Alright, after i've tested the app a little bit I've found:
1)Tapping the file name doesn't open the file selection menu, it opens some sort of on screen keyboard.
2)Creating a directory called data/states/ doesn't do anything, the app doesn't resume your last opened file if you launch it again.
3)The menu button doesn't have a shutdown function for the DS
4)Bookmarks aren't saved after shutting down the DS and reopening the App.
5)After loading a file, sometimes it refuses to load any other one after it and a msg comes up saying "can't load file."
6)The bookmarks do not appear on the progress line.
I'm using a R4 slotcart and the nds file was patched with the dldi correctly (i can open txt files just fine). I'm guessing bug 2 and 4 has something to do with write access on the R4.
I've formatted the R4 fat16 (as recommended by a users on R4 forums) |
I'm also having these exact problems and I am also using an R4 with an R4 DLDI patched Readmore.nds file,
I've tried putting the states folders in various locations on my microSD card and have copied the BKMK & pagin files that were generated by the program into the States folder with DSOrganise but to no avail,
Any ideas?
It's killing me that this great program is just beyond my reach :-)
Chaapaaiguy
#130224 - hofferjo1 - Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:52 am
does anyone know a reliable program to turn .pdf's into .txt's?
#130225 - hofferjo1 - Fri Jun 01, 2007 2:53 am
or .pdf's into moonbooks format?
#130235 - spinal_cord - Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:46 am
aren't moonbooks just plain .txt?
If I remember right, you can convert them on the adobe website.
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#130260 - bobslack - Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:24 pm
Yep,
Specially formatted text files. I wrote a howto on how to convert plain text to the 'moon books format'
http://moonbooks.net/moonbooks/news.php?item.61.8
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#130476 - Shtroodle - Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:22 pm
Hey bjoerngiesler,
just wanted to thank you for this great app. I tried it a while ago and I must say I was really impressed.
I'm really looking forward to the next version and would be really happy to see the inverted colors function implemented, since my DS Lite touch screen has a yellowish tint to it, and it's kind of anoying to stare at a white background.
Don't mean to sound ungrateful but are there any news on the next version? Keep up the good work and thanks again.
#130951 - OSW - Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:25 pm
I look forward much to your next release!
Thought i might mention that i came across a new version of a chinese txt reader homebrew called "Dolphin Reader"
- see http://www.chrislg.com/boblog2/read.php?121
Uses the sideways format too and despite being in chinese it is quite easy to figure out how to use.
It's fairly simplistic as i understand, but it does have bookmarking ability (And perhaps other options i haven't noticed)
#131019 - this-is-me - Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:51 am
I have long been using the built-in ebook reader with my M3 Adapter, and can say I love this program so much that it amounts to a complete replacement for it.
Have you already fixed the problem with the upper backlight on some DS's in the new version? My setup is a DS Lite Pearl with PassMe3 and an M3 SD adapter. The top (left) screen is not visible because the backlight is off. However, I absolutely love this program, so please update soon!
#131219 - rooz - Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:26 pm
Hello
Great app. But it works without touch screen for me :( it's sad because i'd love to use it :(
Anyone has similar problem?
I have M3 Simply
#131256 - Tikker - Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:39 am
I put off loading this up for the longest time because I was pretty satisfied with the moonshell text reader
whoa, was I missing out
fantastic eBook reader, much <3
#131433 - skulkid - Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:09 pm
hi as any one got a guide on how to make fonts for this ds reader please?
as ive got a cool pixel font i would like to use.
#131442 - this-is-me - Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:56 pm
The font has to be a TTF font, not bitmap to convert with the included python script. You have to install a program called python from http://www.python.org/ and then use the included .py script to convert the font.
#131451 - rooz - Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:13 pm
As for me, now it works with two screens lighten up and with touch screen onborard.
I cannot choose from fonts and i ger an "Error" message when i try to choose Bold or Italic.
Does anybody know what's the problem?
I use M3 simply.
Greetz
#131460 - skulkid - Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:34 pm
this-is-me, i dont know any think about python at all
how i use it to convert the font i want to use please?
#131461 - skulkid - Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:47 pm
#131473 - this-is-me - Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:20 am
I have not used the converter program that is included with the download, and only know where to get python, nothing more.
#131479 - tepples - Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:01 am
this-is-me wrote: |
The font has to be a TTF font |
How do I made TTF?
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#131486 - weux - Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:32 am
bjoerngiesler wrote: |
Hi,
OK, thx all for the positive and great feedback! A new version will be out soon, probably next week, which will be much better than the alpha. And expect even more exciting news in the future!
That said, let me try to address your points. I like some suggestions, don't like others.
o there will be a page turning animation (can be disabled), but no sound. That'd get on my nerves real quick.
o The bkmk and pagin files are necessary, and I'd much rather put them with the files they belong to than collect them in a separate dir. I'll prefix them with a dot, so they don't show up in file browsers.
o The introduction says a lot of things, many of them incorrect. :-) I've changed that. Right now, tapping the filename opens the file browser, tapping the (new) right-hand page label opens a "goto page" dialog, tapping the menu button opens the menu, and tapping the screen elsewhere goes one page back/forward. There is no shutdown menu entry.
o The buttons will stay as they are; I'm not planning on configurable buttons. Holding R while pressing next/previous goes 10 pages forward/back.
o Fonts are changeable.
o Progress bar is a bit bigger.
o Bookmarks will stay limited to three.
Regards,
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Are you just teasing us or should we expect an update soon?
#131517 - skulkid - Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:48 pm
can some 1 on here convert this font for me please?
http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/186369/coolpix-ttf.html
http://i12.tinypic.com/4m9sn45.gif
and use the same place to host the files if thats ok
fonts best viewed at pixel size 9
#131551 - dantheman - Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:04 am
#131566 - skulkid - Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:06 pm
thanks dantheman :)
mm ive added the file to my fonts folder but when i load the rom on my
ds it cant see the font when i go to change it.
im using a M3 DS Simply and ive getting an error to when in the font options
#131592 - dantheman - Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:53 pm
Make sure the fonts directory has nothing but *.bfont files in it. I think having the *.png and the readme files and such will screw it up, at least according to what I understand from a previous post.
#131594 - skulkid - Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:31 pm
nice it works :)
thanks dantheman
mm the font looks really small. could you make me 3 more sizes up like 10, 11, and 12 if thats ok ?
thanks again dantheman m8
#131606 - dantheman - Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:26 pm
I converted it from 9 to 18 and put it in a zipped folder here.
http://home.graffiti.net/danthemanms/coolypix_9-18.zip
#131651 - skulkid - Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:09 pm
thanks again dantheman :)
size 12 looks the best. its a very nice and crisp looking text :)
#131974 - rooz - Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:37 pm
Hi
It's Me again...
I'm here to report that this app works strange... i had full functional touch screen in it and now its gone... i don't know why...
I test it in other apps and everything seems to be fine..
But here.. now i can use only directional buttons.. touch screen is not working for me.. (I already tried deleting those three files in fonts folder)
Please help me :(
I use M3 Simply/R4
#132012 - Mrshlee - Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:52 am
That font is an excellent addition.. should be included in the next release for sure.
Now we play the waiting game :)
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#132381 - kokos731 - Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:33 am
It would be cool if you add some latin fonts.
#132442 - JCHile64 - Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:12 pm
When I try to do any thing on the touchscreen, the whole system locks-up (freezes) Anyone know why or have this problem too???
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edit: I guess I'm not the only one. I am using Max media dock.
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#132967 - IxthusTiger - Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:29 am
I did two things that may have fixed all my problems with readmore.
1. Put the text file in the data folder
2. shortened and removed the spaces from the text's filename
#133211 - jamontoast - Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:13 am
Hi!
I've been using the latest version for a while now, I have an R4 card. It all works fine, then after a little while, the file selection dialog automatically pops up (the one with the keyboard). Then you can click the close (little 'X' icon) and it dissapears, but after 10 - 20 seconds, it comes back, and you have to click on the close button a couple times.
Then it comes back again and again more frequently until in the end, it just appears on boot up and you can't close it down, and it freezes.
Deleting ALL the save and bookmark files does nothing, I actually have to delete the .nds file and replace it with the one on my harddrive before it works again...
This is really wierd! Anyone else get this problem?
Apart from that, it works beautifully, but i get about 35 pages into my book and this happens... then i can't read any more!
- Jam :)
Cheers dude, great program though!
#134915 - lord_hardware - Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:15 am
Im using a M3DS Simply, and the only problem ive found is the continuation of words from one page to another (it sometimes cuts out half the word)... but i love the idea of the left/right handed and button customisation.
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#134933 - jetboy - Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:40 pm
Does it support unicode?
Does it support national characters? Like ąćęłń?śżź?
Or maybe anyone know the reader that does?
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#134937 - misterbeauds - Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:46 pm
this is just what I have been looking for, but for some reason I am trying to load a book and it takes FOREVER to load. the file size is about 2MB and is located in a directory called /dsreader. the filename is hpadh.txt (shortened from something much larger) and still it takes about 5 minutes to load! any suggestions to make this run faster??
#135071 - toitoi - Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:56 pm
misterbeauds wrote: |
this is just what I have been looking for, but for some reason I am trying to load a book and it takes FOREVER to load. the file size is about 2MB and is located in a directory called /dsreader. the filename is hpadh.txt (shortened from something much larger) and still it takes about 5 minutes to load! any suggestions to make this run faster?? |
Try to format your card and put the program and the txt file first without anything else.
jetboy wrote: |
Does it support unicode?
Does it support national characters? Like ąćęłń?śżź?
Or maybe anyone know the reader that does? |
No unicode yet, but u can convert your any favorite truetype font with national characters.
#135085 - Mrshlee - Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:07 am
Have we heard anything from bjoerngiesler?
I need an update
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#135090 - tepples - Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:16 am
toitoi wrote: |
No unicode yet, but u can convert your any favorite truetype font with national characters. |
Does it work with a font that has more than 256 characters, such as one that contains kanji or precomposed hangeul?
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#135231 - MasterMan - Sat Jul 21, 2007 2:38 am
bjoerngiesler wrote: |
Currently testing. Expect something new next week. |
I think he had some sort of personal matter wich avoids him updating it or even posting here.
BTW, now DSreader works way better for my needs.
#135244 - jetboy - Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:39 am
toitoi wrote: |
No unicode yet, but u can convert your any favorite truetype font with national characters.
|
How can i do that?
That would suffice for now, but unicode support would be really nice.
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#135303 - acevampire - Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:53 am
Hello, I have downloaded this application, and read the instructions on how to install it. I have already DLDI patched it.
When I ran the app, and upon clicking the menu button, the program freezes, and requires me to turn off the DS.
In short, why can't I run this program correctly?
I am using a 2 gig CF and Datel's MMD.
#135365 - toitoi - Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:11 pm
jetboy wrote: |
toitoi wrote: |
No unicode yet, but u can convert your any favorite truetype font with national characters.
|
How can i do that?
That would suffice for now, but unicode support would be really nice. |
just read the help file, it quite easy, everything is going automatic and powered by python u only need to install the runtime.
The supplied mkbfont program uses Python, the Python Imaging Library
(PIL) and the FreeType library to create bfont files from TrueType
files. Its usage is as follows:
python mkbfont.py FONTFILE FONTHEIGHT
where FONTFILE is a TrueType font file, and FONTHEIGHT gives the
height (in pixels) of the output bfont file.
tepples wrote: |
toitoi wrote: | No unicode yet, but u can convert your any favorite truetype font with national characters. |
Does it work with a font that has more than 256 characters, such as one that contains kanji or precomposed hangeul? |
Im afraid not, here what's writen in the fontformat file "A font can contain up to 255 character ranges; only characters in the ranges are defined as printable."
#135516 - majorfalcon - Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:19 am
i fear i may have been abandoned.
oh well
and i was really looking forward to that new release.
going on a trip Wednesday...looking forward to reading HP7...
ill just have to use the old version then...
if only a hero would emerge...
#135518 - joedodgy - Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:22 am
MasterMan wrote: |
bjoerngiesler wrote: | Currently testing. Expect something new next week. |
I think he had some sort of personal matter wich avoids him updating it or even posting here.
BTW, now DSreader works way better for my needs. |
I like DSreader too, but I love Readmore's book mode.
#135519 - majorfalcon - Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:34 am
seriously the book mode is the main reason why i havnt givin up on it.
although my M3 also has a book mode like readmore, the words get split and its ugly...
however its easier to read...u can change the font color, and the background is black
readmore shouldn't be so bright white, it hurts my eyes sometimes, right?
#137112 - lord_hardware - Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:38 am
I love the program but its not finished... will it ever be?
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#137196 - quaff - Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:44 pm
can anyone repost the link for this app? the original link is dead :/
#137324 - dirtygreek - Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:16 am
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=57324
Must register at dcemu to get it, though.
I can only get one screen to work, though. Left screen stays completely black... anyone else?
#137352 - tuLL - Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:03 pm
dirtygreek wrote: |
http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=57324
Must register at dcemu to get it, though.
I can only get one screen to work, though. Left screen stays completely black... anyone else? |
Same here. DS Lite with M3 Lite and latest flashme.
#137566 - SinofEnvy - Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:43 pm
#138592 - takieda - Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:38 am
Has anyone gotten around the whole top screen light being off problem?
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#138609 - Tikker - Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:21 pm
the copy I have seems to work just fine
#138618 - takieda - Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:20 pm
from what I've read it seems to be specifically related to the M3 SD... I didn't see anyone comment about it with another adapter, so that's my best guess for now. The odd thing is, at least one person has an M3 without that problem. I'd be curious to see what firmware everyone's using on their M3's to see if it's specific to that. I'm running v33, in case anyone's interested.
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#139057 - lord_hardware - Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:35 am
Im using the M3 SD simply, running v1.05 firmware, never had any problems with any software or games (apart from un-DLDI homebrew)
I'm starting to beleive mine is the Magic M3 that was prophesized in the 2nd century :P
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#139090 - Tikker - Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:34 pm
lord_hardware wrote: |
Im using the M3 SD simply, running v1.05 firmware, never had any problems with any software or games (apart from un-DLDI homebrew)
I'm starting to beleive mine is the Magic M3 that was prophesized in the 2nd century :P |
m3 SD and M3 DS are different flash carts
#139269 - lord_hardware - Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:09 am
Oh sorry i didn't even read your thing properly (whoops)
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#145272 - blip - Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:12 pm
Hi there. Cool stuff! This is really useful for my lyrics as I sing in the pub!
Is there a way please of getting more fonts? Or smaller fonts? It would be great to see a non anti-aliased font less than 8 point ( if that were possible and readable ). A find tool would be so useful.
I can think of all sorts of things for the future....speech reading the text...or an mp3 playing in the background as you sing/read...just food for thought....anyway great bit of programming.
#145348 - bjoerngiesler - Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:13 am
blip wrote: |
Is there a way please of getting more fonts? Or smaller fonts? It would be great to see a non anti-aliased font less than 8 point ( if that were possible and readable ). A find tool would be so useful. |
Well, there is a Python script (which runs on Windows, MacOS and Linux, at least) that will take a TTF font and convert it into a .bfont. This script and documentation should be included with the ReadMore distribution (can't check now, I'm on vacation), but it definitely is in the DSGUI distribution at http://giesler.biz/~bjoern/downloads/dsgui/DSGUI-0.2.zip.
Further developments for ReadMore will come when I'm back in December.
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#145626 - lord_hardware - Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:53 am
OH MY GOD!!! Bjoern WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN!... i was scared readmore would never again be updated and was resigned to the fact that ALTHOUGH in alpha stage, that was the best i was ever going to have...
THANK THE GODS, THE SON HAS RETURNED!!!
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#145635 - XThe-R-ManX - Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:17 pm
Hey how good is this app.
im currently using DsReader
and i like it ALOT!
was hoping to use dslibris but it doesnt support .txt files.
does this support .txt files and will it work on GnM
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#145736 - lord_hardware - Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:42 am
yes it does support .txt, it is DLDI patchable so it SHOULD work on the GnM, haven't tested
Hope it works, because the program is WONDERFUL
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#145793 - XThe-R-ManX - Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:02 pm
lord_hardware wrote: |
yes it does support .txt, it is DLDI patchable so it SHOULD work on the GnM, haven't tested
Hope it works, because the program is WONDERFUL |
ok im going to go ahead and download now and test on GnM
ill tell you how it goes.
when i get home
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#146262 - XThe-R-ManX - Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:18 pm
Read More for the ds
read more is a very nice program with a very nice look.
unfortunitly when i was trying to acces anything having to do with the touch screen it locked up on me *froze*
you might want to take a look at this
as also when i went to patch it i notcied it was originaly compiled for an R4
i do not know if that could have been the problem.
Errors
Freezing when trying to use touch screen.
Tried to switch page
Tried to open menu|
both times the same error arose.
sorry i wrote it like this but i test games and normally write reviews about them in the same style.
but yeah thats all for GnM im going to get a new card soon. and ill re download it when i get it but for now DSReader is the easiest to use on the GnM that ive found so ill just stick with that.
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#146289 - lord_hardware - Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:47 am
ive seen a couple of people have the same problem, about to buy the M3 ver. 2, hopefully (it seems the M3DSS and m3DSS v2 are practically the same card but v2 has SDHC support) it will all work *fingers crossed*
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#146953 - lord_hardware - Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:06 am
Yoooo huuu, Bjorn...
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#147421 - lord_hardware - Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:52 am
so... anyone else thinking of asking him for the source?
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#147867 - bjoerngiesler - Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:18 am
lord_hardware wrote: |
so... anyone else thinking of asking him for the source? |
Be patient. It's coming.
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#147894 - lord_hardware - Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:29 am
bjoerngiesler wrote: |
Be patient. It's coming. |
:) oh i can be patient with many things... but THIS is the only program that has excited me as much as it has... my DS would be VERY lacking without it
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#148289 - Josiah - Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:10 am
I second that. A vertical format reader that takes plain text and renders it in beautiful anti alias fonts, even with serifs is an exciting thing.
I'm hoping it will eventually read UTF-8 or UTF-16 so I can also read Japanese texts on it, but maybe that's just my dream...
#148330 - theli - Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:47 pm
Josiah wrote: |
I'm hoping it will eventually read UTF-8 or UTF-16 so I can also read Japanese texts on it, but maybe that's just my dream... |
that's not dream.
i've sent my utf-8 work on DSGUI to bjoern and he was going to incorporate it :)
may be after vacation though.
#148375 - Josiah - Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:36 am
A dream come true! Can't wait.
Now that there are positive indications that the next version will come soon, I'm taking a serious second look at this application. It works well on my R4DS but there are a few quirks with mine which I have not seen mentioned here:
Does anybody else see little dots under every i in the serif font? Does anybody else have incomplete words appearing at the end of lines?
This and DS Reader are the front runners for text readers for the DS IMO. Both have nice looking anti alias fonts and both handle good old plain text files with no modification (except maybe unwrapping hard wrapped text in the case of Read More). I really like the vertical book orientation, so I'm keeping my eye on this one as it develops. UTF capability could definitely tip the scales for international readers.
#148507 - bjoerngiesler - Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:42 pm
Josiah wrote: |
Does anybody else see little dots under every i in the serif font? |
Yup, that's a font bug (actually one that is either in my ttf->bfont converter script or in the Python Imaging Library that the script uses). Haven't gotten around to that one yet.
Josiah wrote: |
Does anybody else have incomplete words appearing at the end of lines? |
Yes, known bug that is already fixed for the new version.
I apologize again for the delay. However, I have a busy family life, demanding job, two lectures a week and two other DS projects, so I can't invest too much time... and the DS is a hard beast to develop for. Sorry again. New version will come soon.
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#148561 - lord_hardware - Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:07 am
Thankyou :)
(i actually fount the dots helpful sometimes because L and i look very similar sometimes so you always knew which was which?)
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#148850 - Chikitulfo - Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:50 am
Hey it seems to be really awesome,
but I'm experiencing some problem on a ez flash v (5)
i patched the .nds with the dldi andand i created /data/fonts and /data/states
But it seems to have some problem with stylus, readmore loads and it shows the introduction document, so that i can move to next and back with the pad, but when i use the stylus on the screen it just freezes and i have to shutdown the ds.
Hope someone can help me
#149033 - heimerschmidt - Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:44 pm
What this needs is an invert option (black bg, white text). 90 percent of the screen is white, very stressful for the eyes.
Even on my clie th55 with large screen and big anti-aliased fonts I can't read without invert.
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Anyone get bookmarks/states working on an EZFlash V/R4? I've tried both and it never remembers them. Rendering books useless.
Also, sometimes when I go to fonts it just says "error" on all the fonts. Like they get corrupted.
#149040 - Josiah - Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:18 am
I just got a CLIE (PEG-TJ25) for using as a dictionary. At first I thought you said you could use this program on the CLIE but now I see I misread it. How do you get big antialiased fonts on it? That would be nice.
#149046 - heimerschmidt - Mon Jan 14, 2008 2:38 am
Fontsmoother
http://www.pocketgear.com/en_US/html/display_product.jsp?id=prod6502904
Great when combined with Fonts4OS5. It lets you set specific fonts for each application.
http://www.lubak.net/
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#149052 - lord_hardware - Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:41 am
I had it working PERFECT, bookmarks and all on an m3 simply, so i cant imagine why it wouldnt work on an r4
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#149155 - drmoreau - Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:46 am
heimerschmidt wrote: |
Anyone get bookmarks/states working on an EZFlash V/R4? I've tried both and it never remembers them. Rendering books useless.
Also, sometimes when I go to fonts it just says "error" on all the fonts. Like they get corrupted. |
Same here, bookmarks don't work and fonts get corrupted. As for states it just doesn't write any files to the folder.
EDIT: on EZV
#149725 - lord_hardware - Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:13 pm
hmm... i may just be more excited about this then ANYONE? dude if yours wasnt HEAD and SHOULDERS above every other ebook reader i would have run away months ago
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#149763 - heimerschmidt - Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:11 am
lord_hardware wrote: |
hmm... i may just be more excited about this then ANYONE? dude if yours wasnt HEAD and SHOULDERS above every other ebook reader i would have run away months ago |
Have you even tried DSReader? The portrait orientation is the sole feature of Readmore. I still don't know why it can't read native .ttf fonts like DSR?
#149766 - lord_hardware - Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:05 am
heimerschmidt wrote: |
Have you even tried DSReader? |
Heck YES i have! and it is... not... as... good
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#149813 - drmoreau - Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:45 pm
bjoerngiesler = lord_hardware? Seriously though the next update should bridge the gap between the two readers more than you think. I think..
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#149854 - lord_hardware - Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:53 am
theres not much that needs doing, just some small bugs it seems... its serviceable enough as is, i would just like to see it perfected.
Bjorn, i have no cash... but know this: If i DID, you could be looking at a very definite PART of said cash... :P
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#149856 - lord_hardware - Sat Jan 26, 2008 12:55 am
drmoreau wrote: |
bjoerngiesler - lord_hardware? |
um... what?
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#150037 - jamontoast - Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:19 am
hi all!
just letting you guys know, i'm running readmore on an r4 and an m3 and i've found the following things the hard way (but i figured how to get it to run perfectly):
- readmore is very sensitive to touch screens. I had a screen protecter on the bottom screen and it was constantly triggering the 'keyboard screen and file name' screen. I thought it was a bug in the software, but after i removed the screen protecter, it never happened again. Ran perfectly.
- your directory structure for the data folders should be like this or you might get errors (assuming your flash drive is f:):
Code: |
f:\data\fonts
f:\data\states |
the executable (readmore.nds) can go anywhere it seems.
- under the fonts directory, there must ONLY be the *.bfont files, NOTHING else (no readmes, nothing). If there are any other files in this directory, bookmarking and save states won't work. There must be nothing under the states directory as well.
- i use wordpad to convert my files to the most basic .txt type, these read without corruptions.
- so far, storing the txt files anywhere seems to work. i put them in the \data\ folder to keep them out of the way, no probs so far.
if you still can't get it to work, here's a fully patched version, ready to unzip to your root directory.
http://www.thevulpine.com.au/readmorealpha_r4m3.zip
good work bjoerngiesler! looking forward to the next release (with inverted text, pretty preese?)
- jam :D
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#150055 - lord_hardware - Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:33 pm
jamontoast wrote: |
...your directory structure *must* be like this... |
i had the file structure like this
F:/Apps/Readmore Alpha/readmore.nds
F:/Apps/Readmore Alpha/fonts/blah blah
F:/ebooks/example.txt
and all the default font crap that came in the zip file
ANYWAY! i was running that on my M3DS for 6 months and the only screw ups i got where that the menu button was irritatingly NOT responsive and that sometimes the words got continued on a new page... which have nothing to do with folder placement... im curious as to what your basing your "MUST DO'S" on...
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#150056 - lord_hardware - Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:34 pm
Also i LIKE black text on white... Grow new eyes hippies...
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#150112 - jamontoast - Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:23 am
all fixed!
the black screen, white text is good for when i wanna read ebooks without disturbing the gf... less light = better :D
white is nice in daylight, but black is good for nighty night time
not to mention on a plane with people around!
there was a chinese ebook reader (dolphin reader) which is very similar to readmore, only it sucks ass because you need to compile the nds with the book embedded, it had no dldi file system accessing. but the nice thing was you could set the colour of the background and text, and reading books was a *lot* easier on the eyes when it was night-time.
#150338 - lord_hardware - Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:15 pm
update: Readmore displays a black top screen on M3Real... boots up nicely and all that, just a black top screen tho
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#150534 - vincent6 - Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:33 am
Hi there, first let me say I love the program, really well done!
I've got a question:
Does the program display quotation marks? I have a book I converted to .txt from a .pdf and when I open it in ReadMore it displays everything perfectly except for the quotation marks....I tried the 3 different fonts that come with the program and still nothing....any help is much appreciated!
Thanks
Vincent
#150546 - tc80tc80 - Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:56 pm
Okay, what am I doing wrong?
R4 with 1.15 firmware.
directory structure ...
\Programs\ReadMore.nds
\data\fonts
\data\states
Only font files in \data\fonts
Page turning works,
Font changes work,
Bookmarks will set and goto as long as the DS is not powered off,
No restore to last page on program restart,
Font changes not saved on program restart.
There are no files left in \data\states
No way to exit the program without a poweroff. (is this what is causing the problem? Maybe Readmore only writes the save files and changes on successful program exit)
#150547 - tc80tc80 - Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:41 pm
tc80tc80 wrote: |
Okay, what am I doing wrong?
R4 with 1.15 firmware.
directory structure ...
\Programs\ReadMore.nds
\data\fonts
\data\states
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Never mind. This is truly weird. I loaded some stock txt files from the web and everything is working 100%. However, the problems I listed above "only" occur on the builtin help file.
We now return you to your regular progamming....
#150564 - jamontoast - Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:27 am
Quote: |
Does the program display quotation marks? I have a book I converted to .txt from a .pdf and when I open it in ReadMore it displays everything perfectly except for the quotation marks....I tried the 3 different fonts that come with the program and still nothing....any help is much appreciated! |
The problem is that the ASCII character used for some quotation marks is not supported by Readmore. They tend to be the left and right versions of the " mark. Instead, open the .txt, do a 'find and replace all' on them with the standard " (from your keyboard) and they should work after.
#150665 - toitoi - Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:45 pm
Hey Biorn, glad you r back. Want to say that we are looking forward to your project and appreciate your work alot.
#151177 - lord_hardware - Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:50 pm
so im guessing this project is dead?
(*edit*)
again?
#151198 - JLsoft - Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:55 pm
lord_hardware, for the black/no backlight top screen problem, try launching ReadMore from DSOrganize's file browser and see if that fixes it.
#151263 - lord_hardware - Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:51 am
because i dont have the M3real Dldi driver, i cant boot anything from dsorganise,
but ill get it and try it out, thanks for the tip :)
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#151293 - JLsoft - Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:01 pm
Use DSO 3.2, and set the Default Boot Method in the Configuration to 'Chishm'.
Both the M3DSR and DSO loaders auto-DLDI-patch, and if you need the DLDI driver for some PC-based util, copy the one that your card uses (\SYSTEM\DLDI_DS.M3) to whatever name you want.
#151541 - roont - Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:12 pm
tc80tc80 wrote: |
R4 with 1.15 firmware.
Bookmarks will set and goto as long as the DS is not powered off,
No restore to last page on program restart,
Font changes not saved on program restart.
There are no files left in \data\states
No way to exit the program without a poweroff. (is this what is causing the problem? Maybe Readmore only writes the save files and changes on successful program exit) |
i am in the exact same boat as you. with the R4.
the only thing that bothers me is that the bookmarks dont save after turning the DS off. its a pain to have to go 400 or 500 pages to the right whenever i want to pick up where i left off.
any news on a new version?
awesome app otherwise. looks good. professional. just wish the bookmarks worked.
#156713 - jrhan1 - Tue May 13, 2008 5:35 am
update on a new version? or has it been abandoned? i wish it wouldn't though it's an awesome program.
#156783 - lord_hardware - Tue May 13, 2008 11:25 pm
i know... but at this point it seems unlikely... the best thing ive found (bookreader wise) is the bookreader on the M3 real's Media Center
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#159293 - bobslack - Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:49 pm
There are various book readers at The Moon Books Project.
Unfortunately there hasn't been much development in that department, other than DS Libris.
http://moonbooks.net
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#159750 - lord_hardware - Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:36 am
this should be renamed "the little reader that didnt"
in anycase, my m3real now only works if you hold it a millimetre further into the slot-1 with your finger... im using it as littlemore then a glorified pass-me...
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#160368 - PigVenus - Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:29 pm
roont:
Try making your .txt files filenames only 5 characters in length. (ie. Lord of the Rings.txt --> lotr.txt) and put them in the root. It worked for me...
I have an odd, reoccurring bug in ReadMore...
The first character on a line of text is sometimes missing. This occurs most frequently on a new page, but has happened a few times in on a mid-sentence line break. It doesn't happen every time, but about every 4-5 page-turns or so. Certainly not a show-stopper.
I have checked the original text file and it is fine. No odd characters or anything. I am using a CycloDS with firmware 1.41 final.
I sure hope development of this fantastic app continues. This is hands-down the best thing to ever come to the DS in my opinion! People look at me funny when I tell them I am reading books on my DS - what a concept!
Wish list for the next version:
1) The new version releases soon! (at least least development continues)
2) Inverted screen display (especially for night-reading)
3) Brightness control from within ReadMore
4) Sleep mode (rather than have to reboot and rerun the app)
5) Fix to little bug mentioned above
Thanks. Keep up the great work.
#162006 - hentaimusume - Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:04 am
Just one thing, if is not much asking... SLEEP MODE when ds is closed!!! apart from that, this is exactly the kind of reason for me to buy the tt card. thanx.
#163071 - whalerfish - Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:27 pm
this sounds awesome but it freezes once i try to open a file?????
Im using Sunnyflash
#163179 - Tockit - Wed Sep 24, 2008 4:47 pm
just so the last 3 posters know, this project has been abandoned for some time. (almost a year..?) so don't expect a response, or update, let alone requested features.
isn't there source for this somewhere? someone should REALLY pick up this project, if so. it was one of the nicest readers I've seen on DS. key word: was.
sunnyflash?? I've never heared of that one.. dunno what support is like for that particular card, so I can't help there.
ugh, lets fix this app. people obviously like it, but it's too buggy to use on a regular basis.
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#163450 - Tikker - Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:12 pm
It definitely had a ton of potential
#164855 - Chase-san - Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:44 pm
I would pick it up, if only to correct some of the ooder bugs, add a page goto function of sorts, a sleep mode, correct the charater nibbling (it does it on mine too). Otherwise this app is about 'perfect', lightweight and quick.
In one of my onw dev's I hand imported an extended bmp font, meaning I could probably add a sembalance of unicode support if I was up to the challenge (however my toolkit doesn't seem to like wchar_t (it reports the code as something way out of bounds), so then again, maybe not).
Perhaps if I was 'really' deticated (I'm really not) I could make it respect the formating in rtf documents. Mind you only because its problematic when in some books, italic text is used as a type of thought speech.
If I get around to it I might make my own version of this, however I am still unsure how to rotate my display (haven't had to do it).
#164956 - JethroDee - Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:35 am
It's such a shame that this project seems to have been abandoned, this reader looks wonderful.
I'm having the problem that the touch screen doesn't seem to work for me, which means other than the preloaded instruction book I can't load anything.
It's so frustrating as this is exactly the software I'm looking for (i'm also having problems with other ebook software such as DSReader which is very anoying)
#164969 - azaydius - Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:31 pm
Have you tried DSlibris yet? I use it exclusively to read books and love it!
#170701 - d_knight_rg - Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:02 am
good day
i love using readmore. it needs more tweaking. but all in all its wonderful. but i dont know why when i upgraded my EDGE to its latest patch my readmore is stuck in the opening screen.
because of tht. i was forced to look into other ebook reader. i have installed ds reader. it works okey. but i doesnt feel right. i like the feel of holding my ds as if its like a book.
I tried Dslibris. but i cant seem to make it work. you have to do some patch i think. but all the site ive been through doesnt seem to explain it properly.
i think dslibris is the one closest to read more. if the you tube ive seen of it is true.
i hope some one could help me out on how to install dslibris in my ds with edge adapter. since readmore, seems to be dead and nobody is willing to pick up the pieces.
#172650 - lord_hardware - Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:09 am
He never released the source... I would have liked to have grabbed it myself
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#172814 - saules gaisma - Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:18 am
I downloaded you reader and put it on my SD reader card. I don't see your reader on my DSI. what did i do wrong?
#175359 - mel9861 - Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:26 pm
hello
Call me an idiot PLEASE
i have the reader working fine (launched thru ds organized)...read the intro....have a txt file in the directory but the reader won't show any files to (open) just a blank feild with a " / " in the middle???
Thank YOU