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DS homebrew announcements > DSZhongwen - Learn Chinese (v1.0a)

#123813 - rrc2soft - Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:44 am

Hello all,

I am Rodrigo (half of "rrc2soft"), and after some months of work I have almost finished my first NDS project: DSZhongwen.

DSZhongwen is a tool for learning (a bit of) Chinese, able to read the ideograms (pinyin), and to show the order of the strokes (alongside with exams and some other stuff like a dictionary of every word used in the lessons -:) ).

Any kind of feedback that would help to improve the user experience will be greatly appreciated :-D

(Update April 12: v1.0 )
(Update April 29: v1.0a. New lesson type, "Hanzi Attack!!!!". I think this new lesson type is worth of being announced :-) )

Quote:
* Patch to avoid game corruption when loading and showing certain hanzi.
* New lesson type, "Hanzi Attack!!!!!". The 3752 hanzi stored inside DSZhongwen have been sorted according to their popularity (number of hits in Google), and you can learn them in "just" 251 lessons!
* New option added to the dictionary: Check how to write a certain word.
* "Play" option added in the listening lessons. You can continously listen to a listening lesson, even with the nds closed!


http://rrc2soft.googlepages.com/home2


Last edited by rrc2soft on Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:49 pm; edited 1 time in total

#123817 - felix123 - Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:34 pm

Very interesting software. Great job!
Comments:
The writing lesson could use with some better looking fonts instead of the straight lines.
Stroke order for "5" and "9" are wrong
Unzipping all those pronunciation files took a long time. Maybe merge them into a few files?
Put the data files in /data/DSzhongwen instead to prevent cluttering up the root folder?
Choosing the lesson is counter intuitive. You click the big button, choose the lesson, then click back, then click the small button? The "click back" part shouldn't be there.
The quiz for "grammar 1". When the question is "tamen", the answers are all "tamen"; when the question is "women", the answers are all "women".
Put "DSzhongwen" on the title screen as Chinese. ;)
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#123921 - rrc2soft - Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:16 pm

felix123 wrote:
Very interesting software. Great job!

Thanks! And thanks for the comments :-D
felix123 wrote:
The writing lesson could use with some better looking fonts instead of the straight lines.

If I find better ones... :-)
felix123 wrote:
Stroke order for "5" and "9" are wrong

Got them from the OCRAT database.
felix123 wrote:
Unzipping all those pronunciation files took a long time. Maybe merge them into a few files?

Will find a way to improve it ;-)
felix123 wrote:
Put the data files in /data/DSzhongwen instead to prevent cluttering up the root folder?

Hmmm....
felix123 wrote:
Choosing the lesson is counter intuitive. You click the big button, choose the lesson, then click back, then click the small button? The "click back" part shouldn't be there.

If there are more than one lesson, the user can see the title of the lessons before choosing it.
felix123 wrote:
The quiz for "grammar 1". When the question is "tamen", the answers are all "tamen"; when the question is "women", the answers are all "women".

Known bug - if a lesson has less than four ideograms of a certain size, the quiz will fail. Have to find a way to fix it (maybe reduce the number of options :-) ).
felix123 wrote:
Put "DSzhongwen" on the title screen as Chinese. ;)

:-D

#123975 - HyperHacker - Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:08 am

I highly suggest using /data for your files. I hate having my card cluttered up with /DSLiveWeather, /moonshl, /TETATTDS.DAT, /LINUX, /SNES and /TXT in the root as it is. All of these could just go in /data.
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#124004 - felix123 - Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:11 pm

Maybe different people write the same character differently, so I shouldn't say a particular order is wrong.

Will it support Traditional characters?
Will you include a tool for people to make their own lessons?

Thanks.
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#124005 - rrc2soft - Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:17 pm

HyperHacker wrote:
I highly suggest using /data for your files. I hate having my card cluttered up with /DSLiveWeather, /moonshl, /TETATTDS.DAT, /LINUX, /SNES and /TXT in the root as it is. All of these could just go in /data.

I'll do so. Maybe, we could propose to make this "having the homebrew data in the '/data' folder" a de-facto standard :-)
felix123 wrote:
Will it support Traditional characters?

Nope.
felix123 wrote:
Will you include a tool for people to make their own lessons?

Once i code it for myself, I will make it public too. Although now I am tired of coding and want to learn (a bit of) chinese ;-).

BTW, felix123, now the title is in chinese, the pronunciation files are packed, and the "quiz bug" is fixed. Thanks for the comments!

#124055 - HyperHacker - Mon Apr 02, 2007 9:25 pm

rrc2soft wrote:
HyperHacker wrote:
I highly suggest using /data for your files. I hate having my card cluttered up with /DSLiveWeather, /moonshl, /TETATTDS.DAT, /LINUX, /SNES and /TXT in the root as it is. All of these could just go in /data.

I'll do so. Maybe, we could propose to make this "having the homebrew data in the '/data' folder" a de-facto standard :-)
See my signature. :p
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#124060 - rrc2soft - Mon Apr 02, 2007 10:00 pm

Didn't read your signature O_o. Well, the program is already changed for the final version :-).

#125359 - rrc2soft - Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:54 pm

Hi all,

DSZhongwen v1.0 has been released!!! (well... in a few minutes ;-) ). Download it at:

http://www.rrc2soft.com
http://rrc2soft.googlepages.com/

The PAK version can be downloaded only from RS, since my google page do not allow me to upload it. I will add mirrors if available ;-).

#125365 - GoopyMonkey - Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:00 pm

I would have tried this software, sounds like fun. But the massive 27MB folder would have taken up about a quarter of my 128MB CF card. Is there any way you could reduce the file sizes?
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#125373 - rrc2soft - Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:04 pm

GoopyMonkey wrote:
I would have tried this software, sounds like fun. But the massive 27MB folder would have taken up about a quarter of my 128MB CF card. Is there any way you could reduce the file sizes?

...nope, sorry :-(. I need that space for the pinyin pronunciations and the dictionary. The application would not be that useful without those things. Still, try to delete the <letter>.idx and <letter>.raw in /pinyin and the whole /trans directory. It may work :-)

#125376 - unrequited - Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:18 pm

WONDERFUL...
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#125377 - tepples - Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:33 pm

GoopyMonkey wrote:
But the massive 27MB folder would have taken up about a quarter of my 128MB CF card. Is there any way you could reduce the file sizes?

Easy. Just go to (random office supply store) and buy a bigger CF card. Then instead of being 21% of your card, the program is only 2.6% of your card.
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#125499 - red_tekno - Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:32 am

tepples wrote:
GoopyMonkey wrote:
But the massive 27MB folder would have taken up about a quarter of my 128MB CF card. Is there any way you could reduce the file sizes?

Easy. Just go to (random office supply store) and buy a bigger CF card. Then instead of being 21% of your card, the program is only 2.6% of your card.


Or you can order it online. It's a lot cheaper, since I got my 1gb mini-sd at around 15$, yet in CompUSA the same card was around 40$.

#135925 - SumoMuffinMan - Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:23 pm

Can you add a dictionary? Or maybe make a dictionary seperate? Someone ported PocketKanji from Palm Pilot, a dictionary that recognizes when you draw kanji on the touchscreen and finds an English definition and Japanese pronunciation. That kind of function would be really helpful for Chinese because of how hard it is to look up characters in a paper dictionary.

Is there anyway to install this without the audio pronunciation? Pinyin is good enough for a lot of people and doesn't require as much memory.

Thanks.

#136206 - Tockit - Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:35 am

felix123 wrote:
Maybe different people write the same character differently, so I shouldn't say a particular order is wrong.

Will it support Traditional characters?
Will you include a tool for people to make their own lessons?

Thanks.


perhaps this is truly a case of "different strokes for different folks"


ZING!!

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#136209 - tepples - Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:02 am

Tockit wrote:
perhaps this is truly a case of "different strokes for different folks"

Thrombotic, embolic, or hemorrhagic?

(couldn't resist)
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