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Took me long enough eh?
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Please post any bugs or issues you encounter.

cool, it's long awaited! your old version only runs on my old SC and only first level.

do you continue development so all levels of both of the full versions are playable? do you offer the source code with the final version?

Thanks Lazy1, it was really worth waiting!

I just posted an updated binary which I hope will fix the gfx issues with ds-x cards, so if your having that problem try the updated binary.

Diddl: As far as I know all versions are playable, but some work still needs to be done for them.
For example, the menu in spear of destiny is missing it's background and you cannot return to game.

The source code will be released once I have builds for all 4 wolf3d versions available.

Metaluna: :) Though I hadn't realized it had been more than a year since I last released a wolf3d build.

I may also look into adding a map since it's very easy to get lost and run in circles.

Awesome. trying it out now.
I also agree a map could be quite useful.

btw, are you still continuing dev for mini vmac DS?

Lazy1 i find myself strangely happy.

thank you.
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Wolf3d workd fine, I'm happy to see this game running.

On my R4 it works properly. on my ds linker (Neo MK-5) it doesn't. The upper screen shows an incorrect picture. The menu text isn't really readable. But you can move up and down. After starting a new game the lower screen shows a red background and register listing as an error???

I've tried this with latest v1.45 OS of MK-5. Same result with older one: v1.42, v1.44

Unfortunately there is not much I can do to fix the problems with the MK5, unless Neoflash offers them free to developers I don't see that being fixed until I release the source. (soon enough).

If you want I can enter whole mesage from lower screen? I think it's maybe a problem of initializing screen, - maybe the MK-5 menu has a special setting for crt controller register.

there is no other homebrew doesn't work at my MK-5.

NeoFlash has offered to send MK-5 cartridges to developer for free. many developer got their free MK-5 cartidge already. you only have to register at their homepage and write it is for testing Wolf3d. klick

If someone has an MK5 and wants to fix this bug let me know so I can get the source to you, I'll talk to neoflash in the meantime.

I want to fix this bug and I have a MK-5. I have good C skill and I already have a devkitpro r20 installed. But I don't have any experience in NDS programming.

I have made some screenshots, hopely it helps you:

[url=http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4541_Bildgr??e ?ndern.JPG]klick[/url]
[url=http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4542_Bildgr??e ?ndern.JPG]klick[/url]
[url=http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4543_Bildgr??e ?ndern.JPG]klick[/url]
[url=http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4544_Bildgr??e ?ndern.JPG]klick[/url]
[url=http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4545_Bildgr??e ?ndern.JPG]klick[/url]
[url=http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4546_Bildgr??e ?ndern.JPG]klick[/url]

Last edited by Diddl on Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:50 pm; edited 1 time in total

From what I see neoflash is only offering MK2s to developers and even then that looks expired :/

Image links are broken too btw...

sorry, it's a problem with a blank in this URL's ...

http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4541_Bildgr%F6%DFe%20%E4ndern.JPG
http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4542_Bildgr%F6%DFe%20%E4ndern.JPG
http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4543_Bildgr%F6%DFe%20%E4ndern.JPG
http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4544_Bildgr%F6%DFe%20%E4ndern.JPG
http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4545_Bildgr%F6%DFe%20%E4ndern.JPG
http://web3.vs2066076.netfabrik.de/nds/CIMG4546_Bildgr%F6%DFe%20%E4ndern.JPG

Maybe the DLDI driver has a bug?
Wolfenstein seems to work on everything else, did you try the updated version I posted on my blog?

yes, this updated version gives same result.

there is no DLDI driver, cause MK-5 has auto DLDI patching like DS-X.

All DLDI tests pass without an error. I used a test program from myself (klick) and this one from Chishm.

Unless I see lots of people with other carts having problems I'll assume it's their buggy I/O drivers.
Not much else I can do.

I'm sure it isn't the io driver itself.

DSdoom v1.1.1 works fine on MK-5 without problems and with saving. So I cannot believe in a problem with this DLDI driver.

Diddl wrote:

DSdoom v1.1.1 works fine on MK-5 without problems and with saving.

oh, I just have seen there is a new dsdoom version out in SVN - v1.1.2.

now it is compileable with my devkitpro r20!

and it also works fine on my MK5 with all four wad files (doom, doom2, tnt, plutonium).

I don't know what to say then, maybe doom has it's data packed into WAD files differently than wolfenstein's vswap file.

Lazy1 wrote:

I don't know what to say then, maybe doom has it's data packed into WAD files differently than wolfenstein's vswap file.

Especially because some DLDI drivers act defective when asked to perform reads and writes that are not aligned to 4-byte boundaries.
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tepples wrote:

Especially because some DLDI drivers act defective when asked to perform reads and writes that are not aligned to 4-byte boundaries.

I guess neoflash users are stuck until they decide to fix their driver to allow unaligned reads, I doubt ID is going to re-pack the wolf3d data files any time soon.

tepples wrote:

Especially because some DLDI drivers act defective when asked to perform reads and writes that are not aligned to 4-byte boundaries.

sorry, but this is bullshit!

the dldi io driver only performs block read and block write commands. all file read and write issues are done by libfat and this part is same on all cards.

Actually it's not, because I seem to remember the DS-X forcing aligned reads and breaking several applications.

Lazy1 wrote:

Actually it's not, because I seem to remember the DS-X forcing aligned reads and breaking several applications.

I cannot believe this.

Look into the DLDI driver API, there are only functions to initialize driver and to read and write whole sectors. nothing about 4 byte boundaries, this is done by libfat itself not by the DLDI driver.

http://forums.ds-xtreme.com/showpost.php?p=29945&postcount=106
Full thread: http://forums.ds-xtreme.com/showthread.php?t=2667&highlight=align

Though that was for the DS-X, I would assume that neoflash has the same issue.

Diddl wrote:

Look into the DLDI driver API, there are only functions to initialize driver and to read and write whole sectors.

But when some drivers are asked to read a whole sector into a data buffer that is not aligned, they misbehave. For example, if your code causes libfat to ultimately make a disc_io call like this:

Code:

void bug(u32 sector) {
char buf[516] __attribute__((aligned(4)));
driver->fn_readSectors(sectorNo, 1, buf + 1);
}

a driver might become confused.
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Lazy1 wrote:

I may also look into adding a map since it's very easy to get lost and run in circles.

If you add it, please make it optional. Because, I do believe part of the fun of this game is to get a bit lost in some of the hardest levels. :)

About the release, is it me or the "humming" sound when we search the walls for secret passage is currently missing?

The only way I could get some of the sounds working such as ammo pickup, health, treasures was to capture the output of them in dosbox and package them separately in place of a real YM3812 sound chip needed to make those sounds.
The hit wall sound did not work well with this method unfortunately, but if it's that important I will try again.

I think the map would be either accessible from the menu or only show areas you have been, but I would probably keep it in the menu.

I'm 99% sure that the corruption problem lies with the MK5 DLDI driver, removing unaligned read support from the SCCF DLDI provides roughly the same issue you are having.

I don't know what I can do about this now though.

Lazy1 wrote:

I'm 99% sure that the corruption problem lies with the MK5 DLDI driver ...

I beg your pardon, you are absolutly right. This MK-5 driver has a bug. I have changed my fat test program and can reproduce it. I will notify NeoFlash about it.

It is possible to make a small change in the libfat to avoid the problem. In case of a address where bit 0 or 1 isn't 0 you can add a memcpy to a buffer. But this will decrease the performance of libfat a little bit. With this libfat version wolf3d should run on MK-5.

Diddl wrote:

It is possible to make a small change in the libfat to avoid the problem. In case of a address where bit 0 or 1 isn't 0 you can add a memcpy to a buffer. But this will decrease the performance of libfat a little bit. With this libfat version wolf3d should run on MK-5.

Well, it seems MK5 owners may be in luck then...

Code:

int8_t ReadInt8( int fileHandle ) {
int8_t result;

if ( fileHandle > -1 ) {
   fread( &result, 1, 1, ( FILE* ) fileHandle );
   return result;
}

return 0;
}

int16_t ReadInt16( int fileHandle ) {
byte data[ 2 ];

if ( fileHandle > -1 ) {
   fread( data, 1, 2, ( FILE* ) fileHandle );
   return ( int16_t ) ( data[ 0 ] | data[ 1 ] << 8 );
}

return 0;
}

int32_t ReadInt32( int fileHandle ) {
byte data[ 4 ];

if ( fileHandle > -1 ) {
   fread( data, 4, 1, ( FILE* ) fileHandle );
   return ( int32_t ) ( data[ 0 ] | data[ 1 ] << 8 | data[ 2 ] << 16 | data[ 3 ] << 24 );
}

return 0;
}

int ReadBytes( int fileHandle, byte* data, int size ) {
if ( fileHandle > -1 )
   return fread( data, 1, size, ( FILE* ) fileHandle );

return 0;
}

If someone can modify that code to properly align reads then I could release a "fix" for MK5 users.
I'd do it myself but I don't fully understand the problem, I have never had to deal with this sort of thing before.

I try to make a "special" libfat library file (.a).

I think that's taking it too far, if it can be done in those wrapper functions I posted earlier then fine, that is a sort of acceptable workaround.
Modifying libfat is not.

Try the latest DLDI tester on the MK5. If it fails any test, then the DLDI driver is at fault. I don't believe that programs should be modified to accomodate faulty DLDI drivers, rather the driver should be fixed or the device discarded as faulty.
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With latest DLDI Tester the error message appears: Can't handle unaligned reads.

Could we implement a "switch" or a "Property" in the libfat to support such devices which has a bad dldi driver?

I will send this latest DLDI Tester to NeoFlash and beg for a updated DLDI support.

Diddl wrote:

Could we implement a "switch" or a "Property" in the libfat to support such devices which has a bad dldi driver?

I look at it like this:
Q1) Did you buy the hardware to play pirate warez or homebrew applications?
warez -> GTFO
applications -> Goto Q2.

Q2) Does the card run homebrew applications that it should be able to (ie, ones that run on a comparable card from a different manufacturer)?
Yes -> Congratulations, you got what you paid for.
No -> Your card is faulty. Send/take it back and get a refund, or ask for a fix. Do your research next time.

As an analogy, let's say you bought a video card for a Linux PC. It is advertised as working under Linux so you buy it. However, when you get it home you realise that it will only operate at 320x240 resolution. Do you:
a) take it back and buy the similarly priced card from another manufacturer that has full Linux compatibilty in all modes,
b) spend dozens of hours reverse engineering it so you have a chance of getting it to run, or
c) ask everyone to reduce the minimum window size of their applications so you can use them on your crippled system?
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This port actually introduced me to this game, and was enough to make me buy the full version on CD off of ebay.

Thanks, Lazy1!

phanboy_iv wrote:

This port actually introduced me to this game, and was enough to make me buy the full version on CD off of ebay.

Thanks, Lazy1!

Good to hear, once I get a few issues worked out the full version will be playable with the DS port.

I have a problem to save a game into an allocated slot. There appears a message to confirm overwrite. The only key working is SEL, but it overwrites only "sometimes". I have repeated it often, it save sometimes not always.

Diddl wrote:

I have a problem to save a game into an allocated slot. There appears a message to confirm overwrite. The only key working is SEL, but it overwrites only "sometimes". I have repeated it often, it save sometimes not always.

forget this, I was silly. overwrite savegames works fine with 'Y'!!

the only thing ...
... it would be nice to leave the menu "return to game" with "B" button.

That's a good idea since there is no exit in the DS version.
Music may also be possible if two things happen:

1) I can get midis to play on the arm7
2) The guy who made the music releases all of it and allows me to use it in the port

There are a few midis out there (not the ones made by imf2midi) and they sound so much better than the old adlib hardware.

Excellent work on this! Can't wait till its working with the whole game. I never actually beat Wolfenstein (never beat any of the Dooms either) but it was so much fun to play back in the day. Thanks man!

needlesmcgirk wrote:

Excellent work on this! Can't wait till its working with the whole game. I never actually beat Wolfenstein (never beat any of the Dooms either) but it was so much fun to play back in the day. Thanks man!

Yes!! thanks for this port!!!

I also can't await to run "spears of destiny". :-)

I am working on getting spear to work, though there are quite a few issues with the menu that I hope I can fix without taking too much time.

I have also decided that the next release will come with the source code, maybe this will encourage to use the wolf3d engine as the basis for an entirely new game.
Sure the engine may be simple, but sometimes the simplest games are the best ones :)

Lazy1 wrote:

I am working on getting spear to work, though there are quite a few issues with the menu that I hope I can fix without taking too much time.

I have also decided that the next release will come with the source code, maybe this will encourage to use the wolf3d engine as the basis for an entirely new game.
Sure the engine may be simple, but sometimes the simplest games are the best ones :)

well said my friend! have you release a Wolf3d full version yet? i can't wait to play spear. and i also know a guy that made a game from the wolf engine...
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Lazy1 wrote:

I am working on getting spear to work, though there are quite a few issues with the menu that I hope I can fix without taking too much time.

can I help you? testing, coding, anything I can do?

Lazy1 wrote:

Music may also be possible if two things happen:

1) I can get midis to play on the arm7
2) The guy who made the music releases all of it and allows me to use it in the port

There are a few midis out there (not the ones made by imf2midi) and they sound so much better than the old adlib hardware.

Maybe, you could try to contact Robert Prince : http://www.bpmusic.com/

concerning midi player - look at this URL: klick

source code is includes in this zip files.

(Pulse DS turns the DS into a MIDI synthesizer that uses the DS's PSG (programmable sound generator) to produce Game-Boy-like sounds.)

Actually I have decided on using raw adpcm audio, the filesize is good and everything sounds ok.
There is the problem of finding a command line adpcm converter (sox won't work).

I will be providing tools to:
- Extract IMF files from the audiot data
- Convert the IMF to raw pcm audio

This also means you can probably use your own music if you wanted to.

[Edit]
FFMPEG Produces DS compatible IMA-ADPCM audio.

I'm going to need some testers and someone to write music conversion scripts on windows and linux.
I figure that having more people looking for bugs, the better.

Also, I have decided against enabling the configuration menu in-game.
The menu code is so messy and complicated it was just taking too much time, instead a simple text file will be used.

Example:

Code:

# Wolfenstein 3D for Nintendo DS Configuration
# 2007 TheLazy1 (http://lazyone.drunkencoders.com)

# Input configuration
turnleft=left
turnright=right
forward=up
backward=down
strafeleft=lbutton
straferight=rbutton
shoot=a
use=b
run=x
changeweapon=y

# Gamma correction
gammalevel=2.2

# Textured ceilings/floors
# NOTICE:
# This WILL slow down the renderer!
#
# floorpage and ceilingpage Are which texture to use for the ceiling and floor.
# You can use a program such as wolfedit to find the page of a certain texture.
textureplanes=false
floorpage=3
ceilingpage=42

# Sound
sound=true
music=true

Source will also be available to testers if they request it.

I would like to be a tester for you.

I just have to get music working now, the next release will support registered wolf3d but not spear of destiny since it still has menu issues.

For testing the full version maybe a cheat code would be useful.

I have tested shareware version up to e1m9. But here is a large hall and two doors. After the second door there is boss opponent who is unconquerably (for me).

All levels up to e1m9 work fine. I have entered all rooms and found some secret places.

To beat the boss, you must use the secret passage on the left wall : plenty of ammo and medipak.

Hey, lazy1, when you finish the ARM7 music player could I please have the source to add music to DSDoom?

I have barely started anything, I have a few functions for reading wav files so far but my time is split between many things.
IF I do manage to finish it, sure.

midi music should be no problem since GPF had released SDL-mixer lib for NDS.

But ARM9 have to extract midi stream from wad and send it to ARM7 by a FiFo. Has ARM7 code a size limitation?

Diddl wrote:

midi music should be no problem since GPF had released SDL-mixer lib for NDS.

But ARM9 have to extract midi stream from wad and send it to ARM7 by a FiFo. Has ARM7 code a size limitation?

Well, also, you could provide a tool to extract the midis on the computer, then put them in a directory thus removing all ARM9 instruction. But wad extraction would be much better

There is no CPU time left for music on the arm9.
The music is also not in MIDI format, there are a few re-released songs from wolf3d as MIDIs but it's nowhere near the full 27 tracks.

I will get around to writing my adpcm decoder at some point, I have more work to do in Mini vMac first though since that project has been idle for more than a year.

I found another OPL2/OPL3 emulator besides the one in the MAME sources. This one is by Ken Silverman, famous for Ken's Labyrinth and the BUILD engine here http://www.advsys.net/ken/ksmsongs.zip

finished the shareware version twice. Can't wait for full version and Spear of Destiny! ^^

Thanks again for all your hard work Lazy1, it is a real pleasure to rediscover this great game!

I am also waiting hard for next release. SOD!

In the meantime you could play ROTT, the game after wolf3d with the extended wolf3d engine. It works very fine for NDS: click

I already had an eye on Dopefish's amazing work but thanks anyways!

ROTT is amazing so far, but I do hope Dopefish will manage to add sound support pretty soon!

Status update:

I have my development environment set up again and will be starting on Wolfenstein again very soon.
There is lots to do because of the loss of recent features in a weird source loss accident but they should be easy to add again.

However, I did complete the tools required to extract and convert the music files. All I need to do now is test them on win32, linuxppc and osx.

Also, I have sent an email to ID software asking for the source code to be re-licensed under the GPL.
If this is successful I will add the helix MP3 decoder and the next release will have MP3 support.

If not, I will just have to go back to writing and ADPCM decoder.
They both sound the same but MP3s are a lot smaller.

Shareware music:
PCM: 55MB
ADPCM: 15MB
MP3: 5MB

The source code to the music tools getimfs and imf2wav are available on request.

I can not wait for the next release. Keep up the great work Lazy1!

Well, my IMF extraction tool finally works on ppc but unfortunately imf2wav does not since for some reason the OPL emulator crashes.
So far I'm not getting any output from the dosbox OPL emulator either, hopefully something will work soon.

After talking to someone in the FSF IRC channel it doesn't look like there would be any issues with license incompatibilities after-all if I were to have an MP3 decoder on the ARM7.
Since both binaries run independently it should be fine. It doesn't look like keeping both in the same container is a problem either.

I'm no lawyer but it looks like this is a good enough workaround to begin adding MP3 support.
However, if there are experienced legal people who know otherwise please let me know.

Simon, the QuakeDS porter uses the Helix MP3 decoder on his port and never mentioned any licensing issues. I don't know if Quake and Wolf 3d were released under difference licenses though.

Quake was licensed under the GPL which is compatible with the RSPL, wolfenstein has the incompatible ID software license.
This shouldn't be a problem though since the arm7 and arm9 binaries are essentially two separate applications.

I did a quick hack-in of the helix mp3 example that was posted on this forum and the music sounds perfect coming out of the DS :)
This hack job won't stand for release since I will need to stream the MP3s since some are too large to fit in RAM (not good anyways).

I'll have to see how quake does it.

Lazy1 wrote:

Quake was licensed under the GPL which is compatible with the RSPL, wolfenstein has the incompatible ID software license.
This shouldn't be a problem though since the arm7 and arm9 binaries are essentially two separate applications.

I did a quick hack-in of the helix mp3 example that was posted on this forum and the music sounds perfect coming out of the DS :)
This hack job won't stand for release since I will need to stream the MP3s since some are too large to fit in RAM (not good anyways).

I'll have to see how quake does it.

Which Adlib emulator are you using? The mame/adplug one or Ken Silverman's one he developed for his .ksm files? I don't know if you've given the latter one a shot, I would hope getting his emulator to read IMFs wouldn't be any more difficult than properly parsing the different header information.

BTW, would you be able to release your IMF extraction and conversion tools for those who would like to listen to these classic adlib tunes from Wolf/SOD on our PCs?

Thanks for your hard work, updates, still keeping interesting, and keeping us in the the loop!

Adplug uses that OPL emulator and it does not play the music properly so unfortunately I cannot use it.
I will release the tools once I can be sure it will work on big-endian platforms as well. (ppc)

Good news: MP3 Support is in and working.
Bad news: It hitches and pops around every 10 seconds.

Maybe 128kbps mono is still too much to ask of the arm7?
Any ideas if mp2 would use less resources?

In either case, don't expect to use mp3s already lying around on your card.

maybe ADPCM16 would be the better choice?

It might be as a last resort, there are a few tricks I can try to smooth out MP3 playback.
Hopefully at least one will produce good results.

Still, it's pretty hard to notice the pops as it is but I'd rather it work perfectly :)

Wow, I'm a moron...
The problem all along is that I decided to update the IPC during vblank and of course this is not often enough to keep the arm7 fed.

MP3 Support now seems to work perfectly!
Maybe I can fix a few bugs and *sneak* out an unofficial test release.

There are still a few bugs hiding in some remote areas and I need help finding them.
If you'd like to play around with the registered/shareware version with MP3 support let me know by PM.

At the moment I cannot compile the music conversion tools for win32 so they will come in source form, unless someone else wants to do it.

Spear of Destiny is pretty broken at the moment, well, one title screen is blank for some reason and the high scores screen is messed up.
Until I fix that I won't be doing any spear builds.

Regardless, the music extraction and conversion tools should work with all versions.

EDIT:
Registered spear seems to work fine actually, aside from the high scores screen being a little weird.

Lazy1 wrote:

At the moment I cannot compile the music conversion tools for win32 so they will come in source form, unless someone else wants to do it.

I can compile C or C++ code under GCC 3.4.2 for Windows as long as 1. it doesn't depend on unistd functionality, and 2. I know how to test the software.
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UPDATE:
Demo Spear of Destiny released, mainly to test MP3 playback.
See http://lazyone.drunkencoders.com/wordpress/?p=59 for more info.

Wolfenstein 3D Music tools source:
http://rapidshare.com/files/67932276/wolf3d-music-tools.tar.bz2.html

getimfs: Extracts music from audiot and audiohed files.
imf2wav: Converts imf music to wav format, needs libsndfile (crashes on powerpc)

I've tried compiling libsndfile on Windows months ago without success. I think I'd need help. Should I try it again to give people more specific error messages?
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Wonderful this test Spear with mp3 playback!!! I don't find any problems up to now (playing since one hour and continue), it works perfectly!

I will try to compile music tool source on win32 tomorrow.

You don't have to actually, I just got a PM from bob_fossil who has compiled them for win32.
I still have yet to test them though.

EDIT:
The output for some songs is very quiet, how can I make all of them have more or less the same volume?

My conversion process:

Code:

./getimfs -sdm
for i in *.imf
do
./imf2wav $i
done

for i in *.wav
do
normalize $i
lame -m m -q 0 --cbr -b 128 --resample 32000 mp3/${i%.*}.mp3
done

^^ From memory, more or less how I did it.

Seems to run great, I just can't get over the fact that FIRE is waaaaayyyy over on A instead of B, king of makes Strafing while running and firing impossible for me, aside of that, awsome job!

Key remapping will be in the next release, thanks for testing it.

I figured as much! Thankx for coding it! ;)

I encountered a random freeze yesterday while playing around with the registered version, hopefully it will happen again so I can track down why it's happening.

In the meantime I have decided to move the status bar to the top of the bottom screen thanks to the suggestion of someone on irc.
I feel it's much better this way since you don't have to look too far down to find out how well BJ is doing :)

That being said I need new graphics for the bottom screen for both wolfenstein and spear of destiny.
If anyone wants to donate some graphics that would be great otherwise I'll throw something together.

WIP Automap:
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Thoughts?
Suggestions?

Obvious suggestion #1: Put it on the touch screen. :-)
Right now you're just showing the title on the touch screen.
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Agreed. +1
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I third that emotion. :)

Damn, it's not proving easy to put it there.
It would be pretty hacky and take extra cpu time to draw it but it can be done.

I have made a few changes of my own however:
- Only parts of the map you have visited will be shown
- Only visible enemies are shown
- Changed color from blue to black

^^
Never mind...

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Any way to disable index 0 transparency?
BJ's Eyes look weird because some parts are _supposed_ to be black but instead they show the gfx in the background.

Lazy1, if you are talking CPU time as in a slight slow down in game play...

...I don't think I'd notice, that thing is BLAZING fast!!! :)

It was my mistake, this shouldn't cause any or too much slowdown.
I did just fixup the status bar though so those teal edges are gone, looks much nicer now.

I still need to make up some background graphics though.

Screenshots/info here: http://lazyone.drunkencoders.com/wordpress/?p=60

Progress! Looking good, but that map looks kind of out of place over the back ground...

...maybe a boarder?

The background will either be replaced or removed, I'm thinking of just leaving the bottom screen black.

Lazy1 wrote:

The background will either be replaced or removed, I'm thinking of just leaving the bottom screen black.

Wow, the map, is nice! I haven't seen anyone else implement that in Wolf3d before.

Nice work!

Doom5 wrote:

Wow, the map, is nice! I haven't seen anyone else implement that in Wolf3d before.

You more than likely never owned an Atari Jaguar console and a copy of Wolf3d for the Jaguar. I had one of those while I was waiting to get an N64, and it had automap. Did the version for Super NES have it?
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Opinions needed:

I have been working more with the sound today and have re-enabled the sound menu where you can enable/disable sounds and music.
The thing about sounds is the way I do it now differs from the original wolfenstein.

In the original version a new sound will interrupt the old one, on the DS it just plays it on a different channel.
If you have played my port and noticed how funky it sounds when you pick up multiple ammo packs or treasure items then this will fix that.

On the other hand like in the original if you push a wall then fire the rest of the pushwall sound will not be played.

A side note: I fixed the issue where MP3 playback crashes no$gba, it was a very dumb mistake on my part :)

There is still an issue where it sounds like the arm7 randomly gets starved and the music playback starts to crack up really bad.
I still have to track this one down.

Graphics related:

I have removed the graphics from the bottom screen, all that is there now is the statusbar and automap (if enabled).

I'm not sure if this helps or not, but is it possible to specifically assign what channel is used for each sound effect, or does it just grab an open channel? If so, could you have the same sound effects interrupt each other in the same channel, while different sound effects would mix and play at the same time?
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The original wolfenstein didn't know about sound channels, though it could play an adlib sound and a sampled one at the same time.

If I remember correctly each sound has a priority so that more important sounds like boss speech don't get interrupted by a door or weapons fire.
It doesn't look like I have added support for that either, I guess it goes on the list :)

EDIT:
Hmm, looking in on it I would need a new sound system to have sound priorities working.
Maybe next time...

I guess I was just a little confused by what you were asking opinions on. Were you asking if you should just leave it as is and not spend the extra effort to fix it if it's non-critical? Or were you already considering changing it and wanted to see how people want it to sound?
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In a GBA game using the GBC tone generators, I implemented a simple priority system: if all channels are in use for a sound effect, stop the channel with the least remaining time if it is shorter than the sound effect being requested. The same system would apply to a GBA game using sampled sounds through a mixer. On the DS, you'd have to track the time remaining yourself (e.g. sample_period * sample_length, then subtract a constant after each vblank).
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I was just asking if people wanted it to be more like the original.

Original benefits:
Treasures, ect. don't sound funky when you pick up several.
Sounds closer to original wolf3d.

Current system:
Does not override sounds.

I would have released test versions today but unfortunately the music tools are broken under win32.
For some reason they only convert part of the song, I'll have to work this out before anything else can happen.

EDIT:
About cheats...
What would be a good way of enabling/using them?

I'm thinking of adding:

noclip
godmode
all weapons, keys
skip level
reveal map (automap shows everything)

Lazy1 wrote:

noclip - no.
godmode - yes.
all weapons, keys - yes.
skip level - level chooser
reveal map (automap shows everything) - yes.

+ unlimited ammo.

+speed boost.

(knife only god mode would be interesting.)
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Maybe you could have a "Cheats" option in the menu to enter a cheat from a virtual keyboard and enter the original Wolfenstein code using the stylus? Once it's added, it could be enabled by a toggle button or checkbox from the Cheats menu. That way, people have to unlock them first before they can use them. Or you could just have the aforementioned cheat menu be present all the time. It would be less work than adding in a virtual keyboard just to unlock options.
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Just got around to trying this out today, the SOD build. WOW, is all I can say!

This brought back so many great memories. Thanks for all your hard work on this project, and I hope you continue it(hopes for a registered version)!

:)

I really wanted to get a registered release out there before the 25th but the past few weeks I have been feeling like crap and haven't touched the code.

The main issue is my horrible IPC code broke down for some unknown reason (lol) so the app hangs waiting in one place.
I tried the MP3/Sound library that was put up on these forums but never got any sound out of it.

I'm sure it could be made to work but as I mentioned earlier, crap...

Hopefully I can get some work on it done in the next few days, unless you want to start hacking around with the source.

Lazy1 wrote:

I really wanted to get a registered release out there before the 25th but the past few weeks I have been feeling like crap and haven't touched the code.

The main issue is my horrible IPC code broke down for some unknown reason (lol) so the app hangs waiting in one place.
I tried the MP3/Sound library that was put up on these forums but never got any sound out of it.

I'm sure it could be made to work but as I mentioned earlier, crap...

Hopefully I can get some work on it done in the next few days, unless you want to start hacking around with the source.

Besides the occasional crackling, your sound system seems pretty good. I was just amazed you ported it running at full speed, with sounds and music all going at the same time.

I noticed ROTTDS seems like it uses compressed WAV files for it's music vs MP3s. I don't know if that's less CPU intensive, or worth looking at.

If I had the the know how, I'd attempt to mess around with the source, but it's over my head.

Have a good holiday.

Soooo....
The project died for quite a while, but I managed to locate my source!

I was worried since I could not find it and my latest build had an "exploding hitler" feature.
For some reason I had it set where killing a guard would turn him into hitler and run the death sequence where he melts/explodes.

Luckily the source I found does not have this issue and seems to be working very well, even better news is that it is definitely possible to emulate the OPL2 chip in realtime on the Arm7!

The next build will have support for music and not require any external conversion tools!
I have also fixed the color issue so things no longer look off or washed out.

However, once I get it to a point where I'm satisfied there will be no more changes to that specific port.
Too many hacks were made and I have lost track.

Currently I'm looking into Wolf4SDL as a new porting possibility.

Keep an eye out though, hopefully soon all versions of wolf3d will be supported.
Or, at least the registered and shareware versions of wolf3d and spear of destiny.

Will the next build have an automap function? How about support for mods?

I'm glad to see you've picked the project back up; the psp version has really progressed, but I'd certainly rather play this on the DS.

Will you be writing your own OPL2 emulator, or using one similar to the one in the Jenesis emulator?

Keep up the good work!

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Will the next build have an automap function? How about support for mods?

No support for mods initially, though I may take a look at it still.
The automap function is already in and working perfectly.

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I'm glad to see you've picked the project back up; the psp version has really progressed, but I'd certainly rather play this on the DS.

I tried the PSP version and it's very nicely done, the only problem is the LCD ghosting is much worse than on the DS or DSLite which still ghosts but nowhere near as much.

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Will you be writing your own OPL2 emulator, or using one similar to the one in the Jenesis emulator?

The OPL2 emulator I'm using comes from ScummVM since it seemed to be heavily modified for increased speed.

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Keep up the good work!

Thanks :D

Depending on how I feel I may release the source, though it's full of horrible hacks which I'm embarrassed about now so maybe not.
I will release the source to the Arm7 binary because the OPL2 emulator has a GPL license.
So like the other test I did before with MP3 I am building and treating the arm7 and arm9 binaries separately.

Here are a few new images, I'm not sure about the graphics on the bottom screen though.
That text on the left looks out of place but I'm not sure if it's a good idea to remove it.

http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img1rk0.png
http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img2ls2.png
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img3tq3.png

Here is a picture that was posted on my blog by a user showing the colour problems I mentioned earlier:
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolfdseu7.png

Here is a picture showing how it looks now:
http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img4zi6.png

It's not from the same place but the door looks a lot better now :D

Nice to see some news from this great homebrew...

the screens seem perfect for me, you rocks !

Good to see this is still alive.
looking good so far, I'm excited for the release.
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Lazy1 wrote:

Here is a picture that was posted on my blog by a user showing the colour problems I mentioned earlier:

That was me ;)

I did convert all the colors for you, but you never got back to me, and I ended up losing them in a hard drive mishap >_< Good to see that you got it sorted out anyway, looks perfect now =)

Putting the sbar at the top of the bottom screen was a nice move. Can't wait to try your next build, MIDI music will be a nice addition (or whatever it is you're doing).

The new bottom screen background seems kind of out of place, but I suppose you can always replace it with the automap whenever you get that good and polished. Maybe a quick inventory, like I've seen some games do (but Wolf only has like what, four different weapons?).

Sorry about that, I came to a point where I just didn't feel like coding anything and so the project just sort of got frozen.

At least today I managed to get the music to work without cracking but that is in a separate application so I still need to move the code over.

I'm not sure about an inventory system yet, all I want to do is get the registered build out the door.
Releasing only shareware builds was a horrible move on my part.

The graphics for the sub screen are still open to suggestion though, I thought BJ kicking a nazi would be a nice idea but other pictures are welcome.

I only don't like the text since it looks like it was an advertisement or box image.
Unfortunately not many suitable images exist since you have to keep in mind aspect ratio, relevance and the fact that the first 40 pixels will be covered by the status bar.

Lazy1 wrote:

Sorry about that, I came to a point where I just didn't feel like coding anything and so the project just sort of got frozen.

"Lazy1" is a fitting name, I see ?_?

Yeah, I think it is scanned straight from a box, that was the part I thought looked out of place.

I've always been rather fond of this poster (or whatever it is): http://www.3drealms.com/wolf3d/images/wolf3d.jpg

But I found some different sources for the pic you're using...I'm gonna mess with them in Photoshop a bit and see if I can't remove those icons.

Okay, I wasn't getting very good results from the green sources, but I'm really happy with how this color version turned out...I've got one cropped and ready for 256x192, and another one that's uncropped/unsized, if you wanna recrop it yourself (my resize is a little bit soft, Idunno if that'll look good on a DS screen or not).

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Or if you really like the green one, I can try working the kinks out of that one a little more.

That is amazing!
Where did you find it?!

Asaki: That image is fantastic!

Lazy1: Please use that image for the bottom screen :)

Took the GBA box art and superimposed the DOS box art over it, and did some color matching and blending...and kind of faked the rocky bits a little, using some recolored green boxes for help.

Aside from the rocky bits (which don't even show up in the crop), the GBA art by itself would've worked fine, but I couldn't find any scans that were sharp enough.

Your image is now being used for the bottom screen :D
I still need to get music added in properly, IPC is being annoying right now but I'm sure things will get figured out fairly quickly.

It's getting there...
Music is in and works perfectly, I'm going to see if I can get the other sound effects like ammo pickup to work through the YM3812 emulator as well.

There are still a few more things I have to do before release though:
- Fix scaling artifacts from 320x200 screens scaled using the 2D hardware
- Move directory from /wolf3d to /data/wolf3d for all those who require an organized disk
- Separate arm7 and arm9 binary build process (license issue)

What about the wolf3d mods? will there ever be a folder within the data folder to put the wolf3d and sod mods?
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I haven't planned mod support yet, because almost no loaders let the application know where it started from this is difficult to do.
You could probably hex edit the .nds file to point to a different directory though and keep a copy for each mod.

Preview video up:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_pcc8EORnM

Wow it looks great!A very cool SOD mod I found (coming of the storm) is the best SOD mod I have ever played

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=XtfwbXMAFEo

I was hooked on this for along time I always wanted to play that on my ds but I am no nothing about nds editing or c++ for that matter,I'm able to edit wolf3d but my skill is doom.I'm working on a wolf3d like mod for dsdoom would you be interested in trying it?if you do I'll pm you a link.(the weapons have been edited with dehacked so they are at par with the ones from wolf3d.
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Niiice. That MIDI music sounds great.

Cool touch with the automap, too. I like how it only reveals what's in your field of view, kinda like NetHack or something.

Epic job.

Thanks for all the comments so far.
Right now I am trying to do something for mod support.

What I plan on doing is having a separate loader application which will allow you to select which directory to launch wolf3d from.
I could even go more generic and (in theory) any application which supports libnds's command line code would benefit.

It's kind of sad to say, once this thing is running Spear of Destiny, it'll be my first time playing it ?_?

Sweet Thank you so much lazy1!by the way did you like the video on coming of the storm?
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It looked good but the problem is that if the mod made any significant code changes it simply will not work on the DS.
Maybe later I'll give it a try.

Well good luck!I'm really excited for the release of wofl3ds
I can't remember if I asked you this but would you like to try
"Nazi resurrection" a doom wad I made Its very similar to wolf3d (use's the same textures too!)but there are more guns and more enemy's!
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Another long delay, I tried to get the other sound effects working through the OPL emulator but it ended up sounding like a dying giraffe and figuring it out would take way too long.

Like earlier versions the sounds are raw pcm data so you still get (most) of those sfx like ammo pickup, treasure, ect...

PM Me if you are interested in trying the latest build out to help locate bugs before I release anything.

NDS is too slow for a realtime OPL emulation. I had same problems some time ago.

But you could let NDS create PCM sound from internal OPL sounds so there is no copyright problem. After starting game you look if PCM sound files exists. If not a function does the creation of PCM files. OPL emu runs at 40% of real time ...

Yes I'm interested in testing a pre release, you have PM!

Diddl wrote:

NDS is too slow for a realtime OPL emulation.

well.. that's not really true .. neibour topic "midi parser unfinished" has a link to opl demo running stereo on arm7 at <100%
though, idea of prerendering songs sounds interesting...
it would be better(faster) to create renders on a pc though

Actually, at 11KHz it runs on the arm7 perfectly.
The only thing is I need to set the heap to a vram bank mapped to the arm7 since there isn't enough memory.

I'll get out the builds as soon as I can.

sounds like it will be very good
I am yet to test the current build for bugs however
can you send me it?

Lazy1, on what source is your OPL emu based on?
do you do fixedpoint only?
have you tried to reduce the tables to fit into arm7-only memory??
will/can you post a sourcecode?

theli wrote:

Lazy1, on what source is your OPL emu based on?
do you do fixedpoint only?
have you tried to reduce the tables to fit into arm7-only memory??
will/can you post a sourcecode?

Yes that would be nice for ROTT also.

Really sorry that I haven't gotten the test builds out to who requested them yet, a few things have come up lately that have gotten in the way.
Hopefully very soon I can finish up the last things I need to do.

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Lazy1, on what source is your OPL emu based on?
do you do fixedpoint only?
have you tried to reduce the tables to fit into arm7-only memory??
will/can you post a sourcecode?

It's actually from the ScummVM source, it's very well optimized and worked perfectly after I made a few modifications.
I don't think I did much memory wise, here's what I remember:

- Give the arm7 vram bank D and set it as the heap
- Allocate ring buffer, sample out buffer on the arm9

There probably was 1 more but I'm not remembering it right now.
The arm7 binary will be open source since the GPL requires it but the arm9 binary has a different license and will remain closed source.

hows progress going now?

Really, really sorry for delays.
I'm only just getting to build all of the game binaries right now, once I make sure everything is in order I'll send them out to the testers.

I need help with what to do with licenses since it's quite complicated so if someone can help me with that please PM.

can you release the version shown in the trailer you made a few months back?

I will try, so many real life issues popped up and I haven't done anything with wolf3d in a long time.

take all the time you need. get it ready and release it when its done. we will all still be here =)

-another world

I took a look at the source again this morning and started making the changes needed to compile under the latest devkitARM and libnds releases.

The arm7 was easy to get working but a lot more things need to be done in the arm9 code which is a pretty big mess.

thats cool RLs more important than ds

I got it to compile and run but it's getting stuck somewhere.
I have no idea where it is and for some reason the osx version of desmume does not have the debugging features.

Found it.
The new sound functions seem to hang for some reason, gotta look into it more tomorrow.

Finally got music working with the new fifo system in libnds, it's so much cleaner than that horrible hack I used to have in place. :D

This also makes it easier for me to split up the arm7 and arm9 binaries.
There is still a little bit more to go but I'm really hoping that I can get this out very soon.

Lazy1 wrote:

Finally got music working with the new fifo system in libnds, it's so much cleaner than that horrible hack I used to have in place. :D

This also makes it easier for me to split up the arm7 and arm9 binaries.
There is still a little bit more to go but I'm really hoping that I can get this out very soon.

How soon is that? Also would it be possible to use the new "fifo system" for midi support in dsdoom? If you pass me a copy of that code I'll edit it for Midi support (if I can)
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While you can probably use a YM3812 emulator to play music in the DS Doom port it would not be an ideal solution.
A few reasons why:
- At 11KHz it pretty much eats up all the cpu time on the arm7
- It's BIG, I had to leave out dswifi to even get it to build
- Needs a vram bank mapped to the arm7 since it needs lots of memory at runtime

A better solution would be to convert the music into something that the DS can play with little to no effort.
I believe the latest libnds release has something that can do this.

Also, the fifo system is just used to transfer data between the arm9 and the arm7 and has nothing to do with playing music.

There are 2 things slowing down Wolfenstein 3D at this time.
The first being that I cannot reserve audio channels for the music so the default sound playing functions overwrite and mess up the music at times.
The second issue is a mysterious timing problem, somewhere it gets stuck but unlocks maybe 30 seconds or so later.

The sound problem could be hacked if I could find a way to modify getFreeChannel() on the arm7 to ignore the first 2 channels.
I have no idea how to get the timing problem, I lost my no$gba debug key and desmume simply does not work with the latest libnds release.

What I need is a way to get the address of the currently executing instruction so I can look it up and track down the issue.

Here's an interesting quote from the Slashdot thread about the Wolfenstein 3D port for iPhone:

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The game engine is open-source, but the levels and art assets have always been non-free.

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I suspected as much but when I checked out the zip, it's actually got all the level data there.

Is it still not allowed to redistribute a compiled port with leveldata?

Take that with a grain of salt, I haven't checked the zip myself.

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Here's an interesting quote from the Slashdot thread about the Wolfenstein 3D port for iPhone:

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The game engine is open-source, but the levels and art assets have always been non-free.

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I suspected as much but when I checked out the zip, it's actually got all the level data there.

Is it still not allowed to redistribute a compiled port with leveldata?

Take that with a grain of salt, I haven't checked the zip myself.

I would imagine that we are not allowed to distribute the content. However, since the iphone version was released by the owner of the content, John Carmack, it is a little different. He also put a note in the release document saying why he did it and that he asked people to use the honor system when using the content.

In the past I only included demo data, if that.
The only data that comes with it would be the ripped sound effects that currently cannot be emulated. Even then those all came from the demo.

A small status update here:

I decided to re-write the port, starting once again from the wolf3d sdl sources I'm trying to make it more stable and with a lot less ugly hacks.

The way it's setup now is the game will be rendered into a 256x192 screen and any menus/ect will be drawn at 320x200 on top of the game screen and scaled using the hardware.

So far everything is looking good after a few hours and it shouldn't take too long to get registered builds out.

Source to this version will be released with the builds and can be requested any time.

Lazy1 wrote:

A small status update here:

I decided to re-write the port, starting once again from the wolf3d sdl sources I'm trying to make it more stable and with a lot less ugly hacks.

The way it's setup now is the game will be rendered into a 256x192 screen and any menus/ect will be drawn at 320x200 on top of the game screen and scaled using the hardware.

So far everything is looking good after a few hours and it shouldn't take too long to get registered builds out.

Source to this version will be released with the builds and can be requested any time.

:) sounds excellent buddy :) looking forward to it
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I hope I can get something out soon, no more shareware only crap either.
The only reason I did that last time was I had more 320x200 screens to hunt down and modify but that's not an issue here.

At the end of today I have saving/loading working, input is pretty much done except for swapping left/right handedness and the beginnings of the status bar.

Thanks to libnds's keyboard functions any name can be typed in for your high scores or save games now, although for some reason the uppercase P won't work. hmm.

I _REALLY_ hope this works for you all:
http://lazyone.drunkencoders.com/wordpress/

Not working on Acekard 2.1 for me. Have wolf3d-ds_wl6.nds in top level directory and all .wl6 files in /data/wolf3d/. :(

What happens?

A lot of garbled graphics in the menus and a red screen on top display, black screen on bottom when the game should start. Sorry for forgetting to write that in my first post, ahem.

NorQue wrote:

A lot of garbled graphics in the menus and a red screen on top display, black screen on bottom when the game should start. Sorry for forgetting to write that in my first post, ahem.

same on R4SDHC.

BTW Spear of Destiny (retail) works flawlessly (turning is a bit too fast, making it hard to play).

Could be one of two things:

a) Your card does not support unaligned reads
b) You are using a different version of the data files than the program was compiled for

I'm thinking b is more likely, where did your data files come from?
It works perfectly for me on a Supercard CF using the version from the RTCW CD.

It works flawlessly on my R4, I'm using YSmenu.
I'll agree that the turn speed is a bit too fast, though.

it seems that one of my files was corrupted when transfered to my microSD.

Now everything works great (Wolfenstein 3D CD retail) on both my R4SDHC and Acekard 2i

That's great to hear, I just made a small change to slow down the turning speed.
The main issue could still be timing which I'm not exactly sure of anyway.

I'll try to get a new upload later tonight with the slower turning speed.
For music I will probably use adpcm wav files, still working on the utilities to extract and convert the music though but I can only compile them for win32 at the moment.

Nice :-D

It's really great to replay this game on DS...and with music it's gonna be amazing !

when you do the final releae, and hopefully include a readme, can you list what files work on this? there were so many releases of wolf3d, it is a bit confusing and people may not know if they one they own is the one that is supported.

using ak2.1 black pcb, akaio 1.4.1 proper i can confirm that wolf3d runs.

i'm using build 1.4
AUDIOHED.WL6
AUDIOT.WL6
CONFIG.WL6
GAMEMAPS.WL6
MAPHEAD.WL6
VGADICT.WL6
VGAGRAPH.WL6
VGAHEAD.WL6
VSWAP.WL6

turning does *seem* to be a bit fast, but i'm not really sure. i haven't played this on a pc is so long, it could just be that everyone remembers how slowly it played on old pcs? currently the speed is only bothering me when shooting. pressing right in an attempt to align a shot, results in the gun going past the enemy.

cheers,
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It's really only the registered version of wolf3d (episodes 1-6) that has all the problems with versions/ect.
What I've found is that you can update your data files so they work fine with the port.

Look for "vgafiles.zip" on google, that should update your wolf3d and hopefully it'll run perfectly on the DS.

Of course only if you are getting garbled graphics, if the data files work right out of the box you don't need to do anything.

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Didn't see your edit, yes the turing speed is a bit too fast.
That could either be because the timing is wrong or the game is running too slowly or maybe something entirely unrelated.

The next release will have the turning speed slowed.

thats a good bit of into to know about. thankfully my files are working. i feel like i just got double for my money! =)

does the spear of destiny release support all 3 missions (episodes)? i remember there was Spear of Destiny, Spear of Destiny Return to Danger (Mission 2), and Spear of Destiny Ultimate Challenge (Mission 3). I can't recall if they were add-ons or stand-alone verisons.

<edit>
i also remember a cd version that contained all 3 with .voc files.

i just did a quick search and it appears that all 3 missions have the same files but different exe files. i have no idea what the exe files are doing. patching, adding other graphics, or what...

<edit2>
it appears that mission 1 and 2 both load and play (didn't test 3). they all load with the same "intro" screen, but display different sprites, etc. because the file names are the same you can't have both on the msd in the data directory at one time.

might be worth looking into this, if you have the time.

-another world

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I have no idea, in fact I didn't even know there was a SoD expansion :/
But I'll assume no, it probably won't work :(

from the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear_of_Destiny_(video_game))

Quote:

Two further missions for Spear of Destiny, titled "Return to Danger" and "Ultimate Challenge" were also created and published by FormGen Corporation in May 1994; these are collectively known as the "lost episodes", due to the fact that their existence is not widely known. Each of these, too, consists of 21 levels, with a layout similar to that detailed above; they introduced some new graphics to Spear of Destiny, but are otherwise mostly a collection of more levels for the game. A CD version containing all three episodes, titled the "Spear of Destiny Super CD Package", was also released in late 1994. The Steam release includes the lost episodes.

curious! =)

-another world

Wolf3D:
1.4 = working
1.2 = don't know
1.1 = working, but gabled menu and red filled in-game screen so you can't play though

SoD:
Original and missioin pack 2 and 3 works! with a little hack (renaming and a bit of hex edit *oops*)

It's amazing! Thanks Lazy1!

P.S. hey hi another world. ;D

and about so called mission packs:
http://diehardwolfers.areyep.com/bunker/sodlost.htm

EDIT: aw, just forgot. on DSTT + YSMenu.

I've almost got the status bar updates ready, after everything is cleaned up a bit I can get the automap going.
Test app:
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

It took me a bit to get the sprites to work properly but now it seems okay, if a bit hacky.

great news! i'm enjoying the "alpha" release. i forgot how much i loved this game. it is so wonderful to play it again on my nds.

-another world

I'm not too fond of seeing the "Patrick Swayze" titlepic on the bottom screen... I always liked the automap displayed on the bottom screen on your preview video though. Maybe during gameplay you can have the auto map cover the entire bottom screen instead of just a portion of it. A cool styled auto map would be the one from Flo edit. Its the only thing that bothers me (and it doesn't bother me that much either) :P
I can't wait till the full release it will awesome! keep up the great work!
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I'm hoping to have a similar automap toggle which would change that pic into an automap.
Right now I'm splitting my time between music and switching the sub screen graphics to use sprites.

An interesting thought for the automap would be to have sprites of the enemy's head floating around instead of a red dot.
Unfortunately I can't include a lot of enemies because they would come from registered versions that I cannot distribute.

For music, I have the extraction and conversion utilities written and pretty much ready to go.
At least I hope they are, I'm not sure how compatible they will be with other operating systems like linux or osx.

If someone wants to take a look, I can send out the source to the utilities.

Any plans to implement Super 3D Noah's Ark support? It's essentially Wolf3D with new graphics; the layouts are even identical to Wolf3D. I tried renaming the .N3D files to .WL6, but it just crashed the app.
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Hi Hi Vague Rant.

I'm no programmer or coder, and I don't think it's impossible, however there's no source code available for that game and I know they share same engine but you know different EXE mean that they'd altered it's codes here and there... and as you might already be aware, even v1.1 of wolf3d is not playable because of it's source base iirc.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. :D

Nice to see some updates =) I'll have to try it out.

Edit: Nope, doesn't work on DSX yet =/

Only semi related, I saw this the other day, and thought it looked pretty awesome: http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/PC/Wolfenstein3-D-Episode1-Floor1.png

Would be sweet to see a Wolf 2D in this style, but it would be kind of difficult when monsters only have sprites for firing in one direction (and BJ has no sprites at all).

Many Thanks to you Lazy!! It works wonderful! I like it to see this old levels of Wolf3d and Spears on my NDS. It is a phantastic fun for me to remember old days ...

I finally got ima-adpcm decoding working pc side, however I do remember how much it sucks to get music to decode properly on the DS.
Hopefully it'll come together quickly so I can get another build out along with the tools needed to extract and convert the music.

Some stats:
Music file count: 38 ( Registered Spear + Wolf3d )
Uncompressed 44100Hz: 220MB
32000Hz Adpcm mono: 39MB

great news !

32000Hz Adpcm mono >> gonna be enough (quality) ?

Well, it's mono because that is what the adlib chip would output, stereo would be pointless here.
The quality is pretty good I think, I'd upload a sample but I'm not sure if I can? It's from the demo but I'm not sure about copyrights/ect.

[Edit]
Unless I'm seeing things in my test app the arm9 is decoding it very fast, using 10 of 263 lines at the most.
Maybe I don't have to involve the arm7 at all?

Hi Lazy1! =)
I can't say that you live up to your nickname, since you have done an outstanding job on this Wolf3D port=D It's so nice to be able to play this nice game on my DS^^ Thank you so much^^ I hope you will add the music soon to=) But of course, take your time, and also have a nice day^^

Thank you for your feedback :D always good to hear someone is enjoying the port.
Music is going to take a bit of time though since I do have to decode it on the other processor now.
I'm also working on the bottom screen graphics and the automap, hopefully everything will come together soon.

Well, with time comes quality, so take your time^^ I'm looking forward to try it out when it is released=D Thanks again^^

Well, one thing I wonder, is it possible to make an option so the game jumps instantly into the gameplay when you have saved? Because now you have to scroll down to the "back to game" and then push the "A" button, this after the game has been saved. Oh my, now I feel like the lazy one here, since I just have to scroll down a little and then push the "A" button one time to get into the game again=P
However, it still would be nice to have an automatic return to the gameplay, but of course it's you choice^^

Have a nice day!!

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Can't find the link to the current version :| ...

sverx wrote:

Can't find the link to the current version :| ...

http://lazyone.drunkencoders.com/wordpress/

Scroll down and press the "Wolfenstein 3D Binaries" link! That is the way dude^^

Good luck on your mission!

So I take it nobody else has a DSX?

BastarB wrote:

Scroll down and press the "Wolfenstein 3D Binaries" link!

Those are the same binaries I already found before... but I guess the problem is that I skipped reading that line... :rolleyes:

Code:

Put your data files in /data/wolf3d, it doesn’t matter where you put the executables though.

so... sorry :|

sverx wrote:

BastarB wrote:

Scroll down and press the "Wolfenstein 3D Binaries" link!

Those are the same binaries I already found before... but I guess the problem is that I skipped reading that line... :rolleyes:

Code:

Put your data files in /data/wolf3d, it doesn?t matter where you put the executables though.

so... sorry :|

Okey, no problem dude=), but have you managed to get it working by now?

I've been working on different parts at the same time, some of you might like this addition:
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

I only have a few of those working since I just started it a few minutes ago but hopefully I can get all of them to work, if not I'll add something else in it's place.

Still left to go before next release:
- Finish converting status bar to better use the 2D hardware
- Finish cheat menu
- Add automap (needs status bar mod to be completed first)
- Add level warp screen after episode selection
- Remove "lives" from gameplay, figure out what to do with those 1up spheres
- Get adpcm decoding on the arm7

[Edit]
- Godmode works
- Noclip works
- All Hitler mode works (I love this one :D)
- All dog mode works

Lots more to do! :D

[Edit again]
I forgot that killing hitler ends the game, lol.
Gotta find a workaround :D

cheats!! hell yes! haha. replay value!

cheers,
-another world

I was asking myself already if I should ask for an on-screen keyboard to somehow press MIL-keys. That's better. ;)

CHEATS!! YEEEEES!!!
I SAY YEEEEEEES AGAIN =D A cheat menu just rocks^^ Nice work Lazy1=D

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