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Colors! v1.06 is now released.

Colors! is a simplistic digital application for Nintendo DS based on modern painting-techniques developed for drawing tablets in programs like Photoshop. By taking advantage of the pressure sensitivity of the DS touch-screen it becomes a perfect portable digital sketch-book.

Current features
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Hard and soft circular brush
Pressure-sensitivity can affect opacity and brush-size
512x384 image resolution with 2 stage zoom
Replay the whole painting process of an image
Hue-circle and luminance and saturation-triangle style palette
Load and Save to memory card
Send painting as e-mail using Wi-Fi

Major updates in v1.06
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Major precision overhaul
Opacity slider in brush-screen
Pressure-Controls-Size option in brush-screen
New user-interface with graphics by madwurmz.com
Playback controls with the option to continue painting from mid-playback
The possibility to send your painting directly to an e-mail address
Unlimited save slots
One additional zoom-level

Available at http://www.collectingsmiles.com/colors

Enjoy!

Last edited by Jesse on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:31 pm; edited 1 time in total

The Send-To-Email feature will probably be a bit shaky in next couple of days, since I've never had the ability to stress-test it. Also, uploading a painting have been known to cause some problems on some networks, so use with care.

Last edited by Jesse on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:25 pm; edited 1 time in total

it's up now. will play around with it. thanks

yeah awesome ~~~~~~

love the brush size pressure sensivity, the interface is great with transparency for brush/color choice, perhaps a little less transparency would be cool to see more clearly everything ... but thats great ^^.

Really Good job Jesse.

pretty great, nice job!

i seem to be getting a bit more of that "jumping" behavior than 1.05, but i've only spent a few minutes with it so i'll see if that is just coincidental.

the solution to the brush outline while you are in dynamic brush size mode works great.

new logo is cute.

muchachotron wrote:

i seem to be getting a bit more of that "jumping" behavior than 1.05, but i've only spent a few minutes with it so i'll see if that is just coincidental.

You are right, I messed that up when cleaning up the code. I've updated to v1.06b.

so how does the sending via email work? I hit wifi and it asks me if i want to connect to the gallery? so is the image sent to me via the gallery then? (connection to the gallery failed when i tried it so i've not been able to test this feature yet.)

anyway, WOW really great update!! thanks!

works fine without DLDI patch on m3lite/1gbSD/dslite
truly nice Jesse. The pressure controls size works great (lots of stylus jumping but useful).
Playback controls rocks.
the only thing I miss is the minimalist approach for the interface (plain colors mainly).
hem let's start testing in depth :)

Last edited by moket on Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:13 pm; edited 1 time in total

orija wrote:

so how does the sending via email work?

Not very good as of yet. Some people manage to get through. I'm working on in right now.

I guess we will need some editing/new questions in FAQ.
Hmm... i think i will write a little faq editor, that will be avaliable to "moderators". But not before weekend.
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Hey Jens,
just let me say, I'm really amazed how good this program can get! I already loved your last version, thought it couldn't get better.

Well, I was wrong, obviously :)

cu,
christian
(oh, and maybe you remember me, last time I tested about 10 versions of 1.05, to get Supercard CF compatibility back. ;-))

Jesse wrote:

orija wrote:

so how does the sending via email work?

Not very good as of yet. Some people manage to get through. I'm working on in right now.

i just have to tell you that this is my dream DS app. the wifi email is more than i could have hoped for as a feature.... and now i see on your page you want to include collaborative drawing... Jesse its just awesome! :)
You should have a link for donations on your page because of all the games on my DS this is certainly my favorite, i'd donate something for all the work you've done.

1.06 doesn't seem to run on the DS-X even after DLDI patching. Not surprising considering the nature of the DS-X, but all I'm getting are two black screens.

Result of sent to mail feature (rotated and converted to jpg to speed up loading):

http://colors.brombra.net/gfx/sentbymail.jpg

That's awesome!
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jetboy wrote:

Result of sent to mail feature (rotated and converted to jpg to speed up loading):

I'm glad it's working for someone! :)

I messed up a couple of times more, so I'm up to v1.06d now. Grab that one if you want to try out the Send mail thingy.

either the link to 1.06d is broken
or i got there before you finished the upload
;)

orija wrote:

either the link to 1.06d is broken
or i got there before you finished the upload
;)

There is no end to the fumbleness! :)
Fixed!

No matter what version I've tried with 1.06 (I've tried the original 1.06 release, as well as 1.06c), I keep getting the error "EFSlib could not be initialized"

I'm running an M3 SD, and 1.05 works perfectly fine. I've tested 1.06 with the original m3 sd dldi patch, as well as the alternate, and I've tested it with/without the colors folder, and with/without an sram save, etc.. Nothing I've done has pushed it past that error, however.

Any clues as to what might be causing this, and anything I can do on my end to fix it?

*edit* I've now tested with 1.06d with the same failure.

*edit again* Tested with 1.06f as well, same failure.
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Last edited by takieda on Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:41 pm; edited 2 times in total

Or not. v1.06f. Go get it.

takieda wrote:

No matter what version I've tried with 1.06 (I've tried the original 1.06 release, as well as 1.06c), I keep getting the error "EFSlib could not be initialized"

That means that efs-lib could not find the .nds while scanning the memory-card. Did you rename the .nds or something? (I'm not sure if efs-lib allows that).

Dib wrote:

1.06 doesn't seem to run on the DS-X even after DLDI patching. Not surprising considering the nature of the DS-X, but all I'm getting are two black screens.

Doh. I wish I had one of those here. Send me an e-mail if you want to be a debugging guinea-pig.

Jesse wrote:

takieda wrote:

No matter what version I've tried with 1.06 (I've tried the original 1.06 release, as well as 1.06c), I keep getting the error "EFSlib could not be initialized"

That means that efs-lib could not find the .nds while scanning the memory-card. Did you rename the .nds or something? (I'm not sure if efs-lib allows that).

I have colors.nds in root, I have not renamed the .nds file, still same issue.
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takieda wrote:

I have colors.nds in root, I have not renamed the .nds file, still same issue.

Ok. I'll guess you will get the dubious honor of becoming a guinea-pig as well then! Send me an e-mail if you are up for it.

Jesse wrote:

Or not. v1.06f. Go get it.

Seems like that fixed it. Most people are getting through now.

By the way, would it be possible to remove or modify the filename check? I own an EZ4Lite and it won't run homebrew with a .nds extension (it only likes .gba and .bin). I would be willing to test if needed.

Oh. I'm new here. Hi everyone and thanks for what you are doing!

I was renaming all test versions when putting them on a card and it worked.
But i also still had a version called Colors.nds on the card. Both on R4 and SC DS ONE.
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xenon wrote:

By the way, would it be possible to remove or modify the filename check? I own an EZ4Lite and it won't run homebrew with a .nds extension (it only likes .gba and .bin). I would be willing to test if needed.

Oh. I'm new here. Hi everyone and thanks for what you are doing!

I'm not familiar with how EZ4Lite works. I take it that it doesn't work with normal DLDI patching on that card then?

jetboy wrote:

I was renaming all test versions when putting them on a card and it worked.
But i also still had a version called Colors.nds on the card. Both on R4 and SC DS ONE.

Ok. Good. Then that won't be a problem.

Jesse wrote:

xenon wrote:

By the way, would it be possible to remove or modify the filename check? I own an EZ4Lite and it won't run homebrew with a .nds extension (it only likes .gba and .bin). I would be willing to test if needed.

Oh. I'm new here. Hi everyone and thanks for what you are doing!

I'm not familiar with how EZ4Lite works. I take it that it doesn't work with normal DLDI patching on that card then?

DLDI patching works, in general. You usually need to use the .gba version of homebrew, or better apply a GBA header to the .ds version. But Colors will never work here if it looks for itself as "Colors.nds", because I can't use that extension for homebrew. Have I been clear?

whoohoo! hey it worked! i got the painting via email :D
only oddness was that while it was sending it seemed to hog my entire net connection... couldn't load any web pages or check mail at the same time it was sending :/ is this an expected side-effect? a fluke?
oh and my web server seemed to think it was spam so i had to send to my gmail account :/ but i will figure something out there.

xenon wrote:

Jesse wrote:

xenon wrote:

By the way, would it be possible to remove or modify the filename check? I own an EZ4Lite and it won't run homebrew with a .nds extension (it only likes .gba and .bin). I would be willing to test if needed.

Oh. I'm new here. Hi everyone and thanks for what you are doing!

I'm not familiar with how EZ4Lite works. I take it that it doesn't work with normal DLDI patching on that card then?

DLDI patching works, in general. You usually need to use the .gba version of homebrew, or better apply a GBA header to the .ds version. But Colors will never work here if it looks for itself as "Colors.nds", because I can't use that extension for homebrew. Have I been clear?

As jetboy pointed out, it doens't required itself to be named Colors.nds, so that is not the problem. So if v1.06 didn't work for you, does v1.05 work?

orija wrote:

whoohoo! hey it worked! i got the painting via email :D
only oddness was that while it was sending it seemed to hog my entire net connection... couldn't load any web pages or check mail at the same time it was sending :/ is this an expected side-effect? a fluke?

That happen to a few people during testing as well. I'm been trying to get around it, but haven't found a solution yet. It's hard to track down since it doesn't appear for me.

orija wrote:

oh and my web server seemed to think it was spam so i had to send to my gmail account :/ but i will figure something out there.

I know. That happens a lot. There are some things I can do to reduce the spam-"triggers".

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orija wrote:

whoohoo! hey it worked! i got the painting via email :D
only oddness was that while it was sending it seemed to hog my entire net connection... couldn't load any web pages or check mail at the same time it was sending :/ is this an expected side-effect? a fluke?

It's a fluke.
Durring the test period I managed to get my entire company out of net for over an hour. :)
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I'm getting a lot of connection-tries from the original buggy verison. I guess someone manage to copy the archive and post it on some news site. Anyone who has any idea of what that site would be, so we can ask them to update it?

Jesse wrote:

xenon wrote:

Jesse wrote:

xenon wrote:

By the way, would it be possible to remove or modify the filename check? I own an EZ4Lite and it won't run homebrew with a .nds extension (it only likes .gba and .bin). I would be willing to test if needed.

Oh. I'm new here. Hi everyone and thanks for what you are doing!

I'm not familiar with how EZ4Lite works. I take it that it doesn't work with normal DLDI patching on that card then?

DLDI patching works, in general. You usually need to use the .gba version of homebrew, or better apply a GBA header to the .ds version. But Colors will never work here if it looks for itself as "Colors.nds", because I can't use that extension for homebrew. Have I been clear?

As jetboy pointed out, it doens't required itself to be named Colors.nds, so that is not the problem. So if v1.06 didn't work for you, does v1.05 work?

I didn't unserstand jetboy meant that. Yes, 1.05 works. Gotta go for 30 minutes now, I'll be back.

Jesse: I'll go home on my lunch break to test out the new version. Seriously, you have to setup a paypal account and accept donations. I feel you need some minor compensation for all your amazing work.

Jetboy: Thank you for linking my artwork to my profile on the gallery site. You also put in a lot of work into the gallery. What can we expect in the future releases of the gallery system? It's starting to look very promising.

kprojekt wrote:

Jesse: I'll go home on my lunch break to test out the new version. Seriously, you have to setup a paypal account and accept donations. I feel you need some minor compensation for all your amazing work.

Yeah! At least you could spent the money to get more cards so you could have easier life with testing.

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Jetboy: Thank you for linking my artwork to my profile on the gallery site. You also put in a lot of work into the gallery. What can we expect in the future releases of the gallery system? It's starting to look very promising.

I dont want to promise too much and then disappoint you.
Things I want to get sooner than later:
- posibility to delete your own submissions (there wont be edit, but you could delete pictures if you messed up with naming, etc. and reupload them).
- posibility to manage your own data.
- visualisation of the favorites feature (all pictures you like are being added to the list already, just there is no presentation for that) and posibility to reorganize them.
- some more ways to browse gallery (sorting, maybe search feature)
- some more info about pictures (number of strokes, painting time, how many comments there are, etc.)

And i have some more down the list.
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Jesse wrote:

I'm getting a lot of connection-tries from the original buggy verison. I guess someone manage to copy the archive and post it on some news site. Anyone who has any idea of what that site would be, so we can ask them to update it?

I've seen the original 1.06 at DS-Scene. Thanks for the incredible homebrew BTW. I'm loving the new features.

Last edited by Sir_Voe on Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:28 pm; edited 1 time in total

Great update! Colors! is nowadays my favourite DS homebrew application by a large margin.

I also experienced a full network stall (couldn't load any web pages / access ssh) while uploading a picture through wifi. The upload worked very well otherwise, and the picture came through as expected. :) This using version 1.06f.

melw wrote:

I also experienced a full network stall (couldn't load any web pages / access ssh) while uploading a picture through wifi.

Hey, you are one of the people that taught me how to code Wi-Fi for DS, so you better tell me what the problem is! :)
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yep, my internet bandwidth got completely smothered by the send-to-mail transfer, but WOW is that a great feature when you get the result. the enlarged transfer turns out excellent.

if only these ds machines had bluetooth or something. i'm looking forward to trying this out at a public access point somewhere downtown and have all the people wonder what the hell happened to their laptop's wifi.

i love Colors!

muchachotron wrote:

if only these ds machines had bluetooth or something. i'm looking forward to trying this out at a public access point somewhere downtown and have all the people wonder what the hell happened to their laptop's wifi.

LOL! Colors will get a lot of publicity on wifi security related forums :)
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i'm not expecting any big new features any time soon, but maybe in the next release that enlargement drawing can optionally be saved to the card instead of sent over wifi? i just got a 2gb card so i could hold a bunch of 1024x768 pngs.

i think the send to email feature is very nice, don't want it taken away or anything.

muchachotron wrote:

i'm not expecting any big new features any time soon, but maybe in the next release that enlargement drawing can optionally be saved to the card instead of sent over wifi? i just got a 2gb card so i could hold a bunch of 1024x768 pngs.

Sorry. The DS doesn't have enough memory to paint in that resolution. It is only the .drw that is uploaded and the painting is redrawn on a bigger canvas by the server where I don't have to worry about memory. It has been suggested that I could take advantage of RAM cartridges on the DS but it would be a lot of work for a small segment of the users.
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on the keyboard to send to an email address.
it'd be really nice if it had a ' + ' sign... i happened to need one just now and noticed its absence.

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orija wrote:

on the keyboard to send to an email address.
it'd be really nice if it had a ' + ' sign... i happened to need one just now and noticed its absence.

O_O

Quote:

According to RFC 2822, the local-part of the address may use any of these ASCII characters:

* Uppercase and lowercase letters (case sensitive)
* The digits 0 through 9
* The characters ! # $ % * / ? | ^ { } ` ~ & ' + - = _
* The character . provided that it is not the first or last character in the local-part.

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yeah its for sending a code , which is a password, before the @ sign... exotic , i know. just trying to do a little trick with livejournal... but its okay, i worked around it.

You may be aware of this, but after DLDI patching v.1.06f and loading it onto my card, Colors does not seem to work on my Games N' Music card (the older ones do no prob). However, v.1.06 Works great on my GBAMP/Passme setup.

would it be possible to pause playback and have an option to edit from that stopping point?

krooked wrote:

would it be possible to pause playback and have an option to edit from that stopping point?

Pressing Pause and then Stop asks you if you want to do just that.
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eric3dee wrote:

You may be aware of this, but after DLDI patching v.1.06f and loading it onto my card, Colors does not seem to work on my Games N' Music card (the older ones do no prob). However, v.1.06 Works great on my GBAMP/Passme setup.

No. I didn't know abot Games N'Music. I heard from one person that that card has problems with v1.05 as well. Anyway, it seems like there are a couple of cards that v1.06 isn't working on. I'll try to dig into that in the next couple of days. Send me an e-mail if you want to help out.
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Jesse wrote:

Pressing Pause and then Stop asks you if you want to do just that.

thanks. i should have tried out 1.06 before asking.

i love Colors!

Wow, 4 pages in one day! Anyways Ill test it right now!

Thank you for this superb software!

My school mates wants to buy a DS because of colors!
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Jesse, once again I really feel honoured I was able to help you out with the interface! Your ideas are revolutionary and your abilities amaze me..

Wonderful to see your devotion, going through update A till F to get things fixed, I just asume that made allot of users happy.
Time for you to bask in this achievement and go collect smiles :))

Colors 1.06 works great :) I love this app! I have a Games n' Music, btw, and it works just fine...I forgot to DLDI patch it though, so DSOrganize helped me there, then it boots fine now. Email works good too :)
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There's no place like 127.0.0.1.

I can confirm, 1.06 doesn't work on DS-X :(

1.05 used to work fine.

It goes to the usual white screens, then instead of just showing the Colors screen, it goes to two black screens and stays there.

I'm another DS-X user who patched and is only getting two black screens. Please fix! I love Colors!

the strokes have so much stability even without zooming it's a bliss. Nice icon for the zoom tool too.

The only things I can ask for now are, a square brush and the ability to constrain the size of the brush between fixed values when pressure is controling it. It can perhaps help prevent stylus jump because it seemed to happen more at vey small sizes.

At second thought I like this interface a lot, I'm getting old, not so used to drastic changes I guess.
I was wondering if the animated background under menus is a random thing created by the software ?

something weird happened.
1.6 worked fine but I just wanted to try the WiFi so I put 1.6F on my M3lite/dslite/SD1gb and I got this error after initializing "EFSlib could not be initialized". I tried patching with the two DLDI drivers without success.
Then I put back on 1.6 version and I have the same error. I don't understand what's happening because this version worked before I tried 1.6F .
So I put 1.5 back on, just to dry my tears in some sketches.
But 1.6 was really good and I wanted to try more so, finaly I decide to give a last try and I remove 1.5, put 1.6 again and it worked !!!
Anyone has some clues on what cause this behaviour ?

sorry for all this frenglish language.

I first put it on the card and booted from GnM menu, and I got a "Filesystem Error" or something, then I realized I forgot DLDI (duh) so I opened DSOrganize and booted it with the Chishm loader. It black-screened though. I figured it wouldn't boot, but the loader did patch it with DLDI, so I was able to get it running by turning off, restarting, then booting it from the GnM menu. I don't know why that happened, but it's no big deal. The e-mailed pictures look really good in high resolution.

I think adding support for a RAM pack would benefit a lot of users, not because people have RAM packs, but because they might have to buy them to enjoy this app :) Some people say they've even bought a DS just for this, I might head online and buy the original DS browser if homebrew this good utilizes the pack.
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There's no place like 127.0.0.1.

@people who have troubles running Colors on their card:
Make sure you are using latest firmware for your card.
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madwurmz.com wrote:

Jesse, once again I really feel honoured I was able to help you out with the interface! Your ideas are revolutionary and your abilities amaze me..

Wonderful to see your devotion, going through update A till F to get things fixed, I just asume that made allot of users happy.
Time for you to bask in this achievement and go collect smiles :))

We appreciate it as well, keep up the great work guys!

This has probably been answered before (considering the java applet -- masscat, your applet is the only reason java exists on my computer), but is there an explanation of the .drw format kicking around somewhere? I'd love a link.

EDIT: disregard, I just found masscat's source so I'm good to go.

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Jesse wrote:

melw wrote:

I also experienced a full network stall (couldn't load any web pages / access ssh) while uploading a picture through wifi.

Hey, you are one of the people that taught me how to code Wi-Fi for DS, so you better tell me what the problem is! :)

Not knowing much what is actually causing the slowdowns: You could try the following - test if merely connecting but not sending over wifi does anything to the network. If it's all ok (as it should) then it's something about how you're sending the email that is flooding the network - in that case try limiting the send speed or packets artificially and see if that helps. Trying out different TCP packet sizes might be worth a shot as well.

Of course if you don't have this problem on your DS / network setup it might be hard to test... Also I don't know if any of the DS FTP programs have source code available, these might be useful references.

I think I may have found a bug. I'm using an R4DS w/ latest firmware, and colors 1.06f. To replicate:

Draw or load a painting.
Email that painting to yourself.
Now, try to playback the same painting or even a different painting.

I get a "Playback" button, but then it seems to lock up.

Image: [Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

EDIT: I've also uploaded a pretty crappy video if you think you need it: Here

Adam

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EDIT: didn't mean to post this, disregard.

v1.06
I also had the nasty text asking to update my card software (M3simply), I did it and 'Colors!' runs again with pride. At first I was a little confused with the new user interface (who wouldn't?) and I'm not really fan of the colorfull backgrounds of the new GUI but the extra zoom makes this version a must-have anyway. I didn't test the extra precision, 'unlimited save slots' and WiFi stuff yet but untill now Colors! didn't stop improving (and the Gallery too!).

One thing for the undo fans (what I once was): when you are satisfied with your work at one point or if you are about to try an incredible daring move with the stylus: save it. If you fuck up you'll be able to restart there like a check point in a videogame. Doesn't everyone do that?

Biiiig thank you for the people spending time on developping Colors! instead of drinking beers in some S?dermalm bars...
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i?ve got the same problem with my ds-x .
newest firmware - dldi-patched colors and the same probs as the other guys using ds-x.
first a flashing white screen after that two black screens ;-(

hope that you can fix colors for ds-x !

best regards Jens

Fabar wrote:

One thing for the undo fans (what I once was): when you are satisfied with your work at one point or if you are about to try an incredible daring move with the stylus: save it. If you fuck up you'll be able to restart there like a check point in a videogame. Doesn't everyone do that?

I've been doing that, but now I don't have to because of the playback. It's not that I screw up that I'm worried about (having to suffer the consequences teaches me to be careful) it's that sometimes a bad line shows up at random, whatever the cause is. It still happens with the new version and it seems to be the screen flaking off or whatever. But now that's not so bad either because with playback you don't have to expect it in order to deal with it.

calcprogrammer1 wrote:

I think adding support for a RAM pack would benefit a lot of users, not because people have RAM packs, but because they might have to buy them to enjoy this app :) Some people say they've even bought a DS just for this, I might head online and buy the original DS browser if homebrew this good utilizes the pack.

I thought it would be cool to setup a donation thing to fuel prize money for ram expansions for compos. But that's a lot of work to justify a lot more work.

adamrgolf wrote:

I get a "Playback" button, but then it seems to lock up.

Thanks for the repro. It sounds like an out of memory issue. I'll look into it.
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Jesse wrote:

adamrgolf wrote:

I get a "Playback" button, but then it seems to lock up.

Thanks for the repro. It sounds like an out of memory issue. I'll look into it.

Coolio, thanks again :)

brilliant, just brilliant!

One thing still ticks me about the gallery: the horizontal pictures are displayed half the size of the vertical ones.
Would it mess all the page organization to prevent this?
Don't get me wrong: the latest changes of the gallery are really great but as the french say: 'better' is the ennemy of 'good'.
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Thank you for adding the warning before saving!

Playback is still limited to 1mb or not?
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moket wrote:

the ability to constrain the size of the brush between fixed values when pressure is controling it. It can perhaps help prevent stylus jump because it seemed to happen more at vey small sizes.

Stylus jumping usually happens when the pressure is very light, so changing the min-size would probably not improve things.

About the min-brush size request: The current implementation says that min-brush size (that appears with the lightest pressure) always is the same (2 pixels width). Do you want to set that yourself, or should that be related to the max-brush-size instead (say like minbrush size would be 10% of the max-brush-size). That implementation was a bit hurried, and I never looked into how Photoshop/Painter does it and if I can get away with not having another option, I would prefer that.

moket wrote:

I was wondering if the animated background under menus is a random thing created by the software ?

No, it's paintings done in Colors! by madwurmz.com.

moket wrote:

1.6 worked fine but I just wanted to try the WiFi so I put 1.6F on my M3lite/dslite/SD1gb and I got this error after initializing "EFSlib could not be initialized".

Seems like efs-lib is unpredictable at times. I'll keep an eye out. Thanks for all the feedback!
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dark nowhere wrote:

prize money

I dont have any prize money, but how about a little compo?

The topic is "Smile", the deadline is September 30 2007, the rule is - it has to be 100% painted in colors.

I ll make separate subpage for contest, plus first 3 places will have special icons put on their user pages. We vote as usual, by giving stars.
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Thanks for all the compliments! It's enourmously rewarding to hear.

It was a very interesting day yesterday, trying to make the new version and the server work while new users connected every second. Now, after a good nights sleep everything seems stable and the server has successfully sent around 200 e-mails with the rate increasing every hour.

I wanted to dig into the compability issues next and here is the status:
M3 SD - efs-lib problem, Looking into it.
DS-X - two black screens, Looking into it.
Games'n Music - One person had trouble, but seemed to work for another. I need more info on this.
EZ4 - efs-lib problem, Looking into it.

Also, if anyone uses these cards successfully, let us know.

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LiteDS wrote:

Playback is still limited to 1mb or not?

Yes, still 1MB.
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Fabar wrote:

One thing still ticks me about the gallery: the horizontal pictures are displayed half the size of the vertical ones.
Would it mess all the page organization to prevent this?
Don't get me wrong: the latest changes of the gallery are really great but as the french say: 'better' is the ennemy of 'good'.
^__^

They compose beter if they are the same width.
If they were all the same size, it would look much worse. I tried that in the first place.
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jetboy wrote:

dark nowhere wrote:

prize money

I dont have any prize money, but how about a little compo?

The topic is "Smile", the deadline is September 30 2007, the rule is - it has to be 100% painted in colors.

I ll make separate subpage for contest, plus first 3 places will have special icons put on their user pages. We vote as usual, by giving stars.

sounds great!

I think i should join this one looks really fun
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calcprogrammer1 wrote:

Some people say they've even bought a DS just for this, I might head online and buy the original DS browser if homebrew this good utilizes the pack.

It's tough to find now. Someone at $major_US_video_game_retail_chain told me it's discontinued. If only I could get Lick's RAM API to see my EZFlash V 3-in-1 card...
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LiteDS wrote:

jetboy wrote:

dark nowhere wrote:

prize money

I dont have any prize money, but how about a little compo?

The topic is "Smile", the deadline is September 30 2007, the rule is - it has to be 100% painted in colors.

I ll make separate subpage for contest, plus first 3 places will have special icons put on their user pages. We vote as usual, by giving stars.

sounds great!

I think i should join this one looks really fun

I am going to get in on this :) very good idea

Just an idea, like the slider that shows a preview of brush size can the other slider not show a preview of what the color would like like? Sometimes it takes me a few tries because I'm not sure how light or dark its going to make my brush stroke.

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Jesse wrote:

I'm getting a lot of connection-tries from the original buggy verison. I guess someone manage to copy the archive and post it on some news site. Anyone who has any idea of what that site would be, so we can ask them to update it?

Updated DS-Scene with a request that everyone updates. Sorry if it was causing you problems :/

Jesse wrote:

I'm getting a lot of connection-tries from the original buggy verison. I guess someone manage to copy the archive and post it on some news site. Anyone who has any idea of what that site would be, so we can ask them to update it?

Could be from [PIRACY-DOT-NET], i'll check there, if they need to post an updated version i'll let them know

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jetboy wrote:

I dont have any prize money, but how about a little compo?

The topic is "Smile", the deadline is September 30 2007, the rule is - it has to be 100% painted in colors.

I ll make separate subpage for contest, plus first 3 places will have special icons put on their user pages. We vote as usual, by giving stars.

How many submissions per author?
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Dzozef wrote:

jetboy wrote:

I dont have any prize money, but how about a little compo?

The topic is "Smile", the deadline is September 30 2007, the rule is - it has to be 100% painted in colors.

I ll make separate subpage for contest, plus first 3 places will have special icons put on their user pages. We vote as usual, by giving stars.

How many submissions per author?

No limit.

Contest subpage:
http://colors.brombra.net/smile.php?page=1
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smiles page looks good - typo on "trophy" though:

We have first content here!
The topic is "Smile", the deadline is September 30 2007, the rule is, like with all submissions here - it has to be 100% painted in colors, any amount of entries per user. There are no real prizes this time, except the thropy icons that would be added to winners profiles. Vote by giving stars.

Just chiming in to say that Colors! is absolutely amazing. Just took v1.06 for a quick spin to test out some of the new features, and you've done a really good job with it. The look, feel and polish all represent the level of quality one would expect in a commercial application worked on by a team of programmers, and I hope that some day I'll be able to say similar things about my own programs.

I look forward to having a bit more time to get some proper drawing done. I'm not even an artistic person, but Colors! has inspired me to do more doodling.

(P.S. I'm using an M3 Lite (SD), and a DLDI patched v1.06f worked fine for me.)

How can i dra double-height pictures as seen in the gallery? i can't find an option. i only can draw a normal size picture (one ds-screen).

rayo wrote:

How can i dra double-height pictures as seen in the gallery? i can't find an option. i only can draw a normal size picture (one ds-screen).

Turn your DS to the side! :)
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rayo wrote:

How can i dra double-height pictures as seen in the gallery? i can't find an option. i only can draw a normal size picture (one ds-screen).

Its not dual screen, they are just rotated 90 degrees. The website displays them larger. Probably since more image can fit without widening the columns that way.

Oh i didn't realize that the images could be zoomed :)

Thanks

i dont have my DS w/ me but was wondering if there's reverse playback? it would help w/ undo.

krooked wrote:

i dont have my DS w/ me but was wondering if there's reverse playback? it would help w/ undo.

not that I could tell, it seems you can press the "rewind" button, but it takes you back to the beginning of playback

jetboy wrote:

dark nowhere wrote:

prize money

I dont have any prize money, but how about a little compo?

I think that would be great. I'll probably participate even though I'm not very good yet.

adamrgolf wrote:

krooked wrote:

i dont have my DS w/ me but was wondering if there's reverse playback? it would help w/ undo.

not that I could tell, it seems you can press the "rewind" button, but it takes you back to the beginning of playback

why cant the playback play through forward, but stop at the part before the last point? May be slow, but it should work.

Dan2552 wrote:

why cant the playback play through forward, but stop at the part before the last point? May be slow, but it should work.

But it works. However you have to do it yourself :)
That is to encourage people to repaint their mistakes as they would do with paper and oil paint.
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Is that colors flash player?
http://railkill.free.fr/colors/
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jetboy wrote:

Is that colors flash player?
http://railkill.free.fr/colors/

Yes. I've been sending him info on the .drw format. It looks good.
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I've released an small update called v1.06g that is now available on the homepage.

* Some compability solved - Let me know if there still are flashcards it's not working on.
* Colors data-folder located next to executable instead of in the root
* Minor graphical artifacts removed (thanks Noah)
* Continue from mid-playback bugs fixed
* Fixed a out-of-memory crash (thanks adamrgolf)
* Wi-Fi stability fixed - But the flooding thing is probably still there.

Big thanks to Xenon and Rattboi for helping me track down compability problems.
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hi, i have trouble loading my old picture files through 1.06f. just errors. any solution?
EDIT: nvm, 1.06g seem to have fixed the problem, all cool :)

p.s. i love the new UI it is really nice. i loved the 1.04 version and when 1.05 came out, i was like "awe man, wtf, what happened to the simple clean UI?" but gotta say the new one tops all of the previous nice work. Thanks Jesse for your hard work.

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I think I found a bug. If I set Thickness to max and Opacity to Max, and make Control Pressure set to Thickness and not Opacity, then press medium, I would expect the Opacity to be full every time, but instead, it is 50% or so. If I press hard, it's full opacity and if I press soft, it's full opacity.

EDIT: oh, another part of it, you need to move slowly while pressing medium, if you press medium and move quickly, it's full opacity as expected.

BlueJazZ wrote:

hi, i have trouble loading my old picture files through 1.06f. just errors. any solution?
EDIT: nvm, 1.06g seem to have fixed the problem, all cool :)

p.s. i love the new UI it is really nice. i loved the 1.04 version and when 1.05 came out, i was like "awe man, wtf, what happened to the simple clean UI?" but gotta say the new one tops all of the previous nice work. Thanks Jesse for your hard work.

Thanks for the compliments! E-mail one of the pictures you are having problems with and I'll take a look.
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rattboi wrote:

I think I found a bug. If I set Thickness to max and Opacity to Max, and make Control Pressure set to Thickness and not Opacity, then press medium, I would expect the Opacity to be full every time, but instead, it is 50% or so. If I press hard, it's full opacity and if I press soft, it's full opacity.

I'm not sure I see what you are seeing, but there was a cursor-bug there that I did a quick fix for. I sneaked the fixed version into the v1.06g version, so download that one again and see if that was what you meant.
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i have another problem loading pictures, sorry. But it's different this time. Pics without .tmb and/or .drw files (DL from the gallery) for some reason are not displayed in the load screen (not registered at all). ???

BlueJazZ wrote:

i have another problem loading pictures, sorry. But it's different this time. Pics without .tmb and/or .drw files (DL from the gallery) for some reason are not displayed in the load screen. ???

That is true. Colors! can't really load a picture without all the files available. If you really want to get that .png into Colors!, you can replace a .png in another slot that has the .tmb and .drw files. It will look like the old in the load screen and the playback will also be from the old file, but you'll get the new .png on the canvas after loading that slot.
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thanks for the quick replies... really settle my mind :)

- you know, i can't really say how much i appreciate this program. I mean, I would get a DS just for this program. Arg....I LOVE Colors. Thanks Jesse

rattboi wrote:

EDIT: oh, another part of it, you need to move slowly while pressing medium, if you press medium and move quickly, it's full opacity as expected.

Ah. Now I see what you mean. That was a wierd bug. But it's fixed now and also snuck (sneaked?) into v1.06g. Thanks.
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muchachotron wrote:

the solution to the brush outline while you are in dynamic brush size mode works great.

This is a reply to an old post, but I just realized what it meant. This was an unexpected behaviour that I just fixed for v1.06g. But, perhaps this "bug" was a good thing? Anyone who has an opinion?
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BlueJazZ wrote:

- you know, i can't really say how much i appreciate this program. I mean, I would get a DS just for this program. Arg....I LOVE Colors. Thanks Jesse

Thanks. I really appreciate it.
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Confirmed : 1.06g works on DS-X.

The ONLY reason I'm not obsessed with this program and heaping it with praise is because I have the drawing ability of a 5-year old or something. So this issue is a limitation on the user's end :)

I have the drawing ability of a 5-year-old or something and still am obsessed with this program :) Hopefully it will improve my drawing if I use it a lot :)
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Jesse wrote:

muchachotron wrote:

the solution to the brush outline while you are in dynamic brush size mode works great.

This is a reply to an old post, but I just realized what it meant. This was an unexpected behaviour that I just fixed for v1.06g. But, perhaps this "bug" was a good thing? Anyone who has an opinion?

If you mean the semi-transparent fill in the brush circle while painting, I much prefer the behaviour in 1.06g. Now I can see what I'm doing :) If that's not it, then I'm not sure.

Jesse wrote:

About the min-brush size request: The current implementation says that min-brush size (that appears with the lightest pressure) always is the same (2 pixels width). Do you want to set that yourself, or should that be related to the max-brush-size instead (say like minbrush size would be 10% of the max-brush-size). That implementation was a bit hurried, and I never looked into how Photoshop/Painter does it and if I can get away with not having another option, I would prefer that.

You could have something like this one. Two limiters ,can be grey out if not active, draggable only if active. Automatic reset to the lowest value if the main slider has a higher value when switching modes.
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]
shifting a bit the top of the sliders might help selecting the max value on it.
If low opacity is the factor, perhaps this can work ?
With this type of setting you can have a feeling closer to 'tradionnal painting', a subtle variation in the stroke. It works great with small sizes quite like a thick brush with ink. But I'm already happy with Colors!, just bitching.

calcprogrammer1 <> I love your drawings ! the laptop was brilliant.

moket wrote:

You could have something like this one. Two limiters ,can be grey out if not active, draggable only if active. Automatic reset to the lowest value if the main slider has a higher value when switching modes.
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]
shifting a bit the top of the sliders might help selecting the max value on it.
If low opacity is the factor, perhaps this can work ?
With this type of setting you can have a feeling closer to 'tradionnal painting', a subtle variation in the stroke. It works great with small sizes quite like a thick brush with ink. But I'm already happy with Colors!, just bitching.

calcprogrammer1 <> I love your drawings ! the laptop was brilliant.

I want this feature too, but I agree with Jesse that it's good to avoid too many sliders muddying up the options, but it's not very useful if it can't be set exactly, rather than a percent.

Also note: disabled and zero are exactly the same option. If you put on two sliders, I would propose having a minimum distance between them in order to avoid stuck sliders. If you want anything less, disable sensitivity maybe?

That's my thoughts.

I like that the colors directory does not have to live on the root now. The nds file now knows to look in the directory where it is located for the COLORS folder.

I was confused at first b/c i still had the colors directory on the root and when I went to load a picture none of them where there!! But then I saw what was happening, moved my colors folder to live with my .nds file, and all is well in Hooville again.

adamrgolf wrote:

I think I may have found a bug. I'm using an R4DS w/ latest firmware, and colors 1.06f. To replicate:

Draw or load a painting.
Email that painting to yourself.
Now, try to playback the same painting or even a different painting.

I get a "Playback" button, but then it seems to lock up.

Image: [Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

EDIT: I've also uploaded a pretty crappy video if you think you need it: Here

Adam

I no longer have this issue with 1.06g. Nice work, what did you have to change?

I submitted an entry for the contest Jetboy.

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WOW, I just read all 8 pages of posts.

Jesse, BIG FAN, loved your radio interview.

I also was having lockup errors, but I haven't tried g yet.

I know you get alot of requests for features, but I havent seen eigther of these, so I thought I would mintion them.

First, i have the problem of not knowing what my brush stroke will look like, and I cant just draw and undo, so I was wondering about a small white box in the corner of the color/brush screen that lets you srcibble a line on it. The line would then dissapear after like 1-2 secs, and you could repete this over and over, testing new colors and brushes. I don't know what this woud do to memory and layout. But this feature would ROCK.

Second, having a tiny address book, maybe just remembering a few emails would be great, I email almost every drawing to myself, my girfriend, and not having to type them in over and over would be sweet.

Keep up the awsome work.

Brady

adamrgolf wrote:

I no longer have this issue with 1.06g. Nice work, what did you have to change?

Before your report I didn't know that that point was the point where memory usage peaked, so I hadn't really looked what was going on there. After knowing that, I could target that and rearrange some allocations. Also, I found out that you can reduce the amount of memory the Wi-Fi lib use.
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MrKuenning wrote:

Second, having a tiny address book, maybe just remembering a few emails would be great, I email almost every drawing to myself, my girfriend, and not having to type them in over and over would be sweet.

I like both of your feature ideas, but having it remember just a few emails would be very cool. I too email almost every drawing to either me or my girlfriend, and vice versa.

Jesse wrote:

adamrgolf wrote:

I no longer have this issue with 1.06g. Nice work, what did you have to change?

Before your report I didn't know that that point was the point where memory usage peaked, so I hadn't really looked what was going on there. After knowing that, I could target that and rearrange some allocations. Also, I found out that you can reduce the amount of memory the Wi-Fi lib use.

I don't really know why I asked, lol, since all of that was over my head. But I do appreciate the hard work you are putting into this application.

I dont know if it was fixed on the way, but strokes were not saved right when you was using pressure to control both opacity and size. It seems like this was not 100% repetable bug, so the error might have been caused by something different. It looked like they are drawn full size, or full pressure.
They paint right, the syndrome is visible when you do playback.

Also ocassionally i cannot load pictures, its quite rare but still is in 1.06g. Usually rebooting fixes the problem. Happens both on R4 and DS ONE.
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MrKuenning wrote:

so I was wondering about a small white box in the corner of the color/brush screen that lets you srcibble a line on it.

Something like that has been suggested earlier. It's a good idea, but I'm still not sure how I would implement in a simple enough way. Also, there is a trick in there, if you just want to test out the brush size on the canvas. If you press and hold one of the zoom-buttons, touching the canvas will only display the cursor, and won't draw anything. Perhaps that helps.

MrKuenning wrote:

Second, having a tiny address book, maybe just remembering a few emails would be great, I email almost every drawing to myself, my girfriend, and not having to type them in over and over would be sweet.

Yes. Something like that will probably make it in there at some point.

Thanks for the feedback and the compliments!
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jetboy wrote:

I dont know if it was fixed on the way, but strokes were not saved right when you was using pressure to control both opacity and size.

jetboy wrote:

Also ocassionally i cannot load pictures, its quite rare but still is in 1.06g.

If anyone can find reproduction steps for these, I would be grateful.
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Jesse wrote:

MrKuenning wrote:

so I was wondering about a small white box in the corner of the color/brush screen that lets you srcibble a line on it.

Something like that has been suggested earlier. It's a good idea, but I'm still not sure how I would implement in a simple enough way.

Just an idea, but perhaps when holding L or R to bring up the color/brush screen, you could then choose your size and hold a second button, like the down arrow and it would bring up a white area with an area that says "test" or something. Then you could draw and see your stroke, release the down arrow and adjust if needed.

adamrgolf wrote:

Just an idea, but perhaps when holding L or R to bring up the color/brush screen, you could then choose your size and hold a second button, like the down arrow and it would bring up a white area with an area that says "test" or something. Then you could draw and see your stroke, release the down arrow and adjust if needed.

Nice. I think I can do something with that idea. I guess you would need nimble fingers though. :)
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Jesse wrote:

Nice. I think I can do something with that idea. I guess you would need nimble fingers though. :)

Yea. :) Depending on which hand you use, the test area could be brought up with L + Down, or R + B.

But even if you hold the DS in a way that makes this button combo hard to do, you don't really have to "draw" anything in the test area, you just need to be able to see a quick brush preview. So I'm sure users can get used a quick rotation to test out their brush selection.

EDIT: It's probably not a good idea to do a feature request for a feature request. But what would be really cool for the "test brush option" is if the test area had what you've drawn already and then you could test your brush against your current drawing, then upon releasing the test area buttons the drawing would be as it was before testing the brush.

The new brush handling and options are great! Having the second zoom level is also a very nice addition but I really do miss seeing the whole image on the upper screen when zoomed in.

UI is nice but I'm not too keen on having an animation in the bg of the main menu - feels like a gimmick that distracts more than adding any real value.

Works fine on supercard CF as usual.

I haven't used any of the wi-fi abilities but it still feels like a very good step up from 1.05!

bear wrote:

I really do miss seeing the whole image on the upper screen when zoomed in.

Select will show your image on the top instead of the button layout picture.

bear wrote:

UI is nice but I'm not too keen on having an animation in the bg of the main menu - feels like a gimmick that distracts more than adding any real value.

Well, it is very much a gimmick and there is no other value than for it to look cool. :)

But seriously, you are not the only one who thinks that it is distracting. Still, I'm not completely sure how to look at that feedback. The way I see it, it could be the reaction of surprise that causes the distraction, because people are used to the way v1.05 looked and just get surprised when they open up the main menu and things are moving. Therefore it would be interesting to hear from people that didn't use v1.05 if they also find it distracting. Also, I'm not sure what people are distracted _from_. Do people have a harder time understanding the buttons or do they lose focus on whatever they were painting on? If it's the second, it's not necessarily a bad thing since the main reason to go into the main menu while painting is when you want to flip to reevaluate your composition, or if you want to save and shut down (well, not completely true, since you may want to save for other reasons). But still I agree to some extent, and my reaction was the same the first times I open the main menu after getting it in there. I?m just not sure what it means and that is why I wrote this long-winded post. Tell me!
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Regarding the menu background effects, I think its very nice. My girlfriend does as well. We both use Colors now, and we both used it in version 1.05. I can't see how anyone would see it as a distraction. I guess some people could see it as "less professional" perhaps. But to me Colors! is a fun program and I think this "gimmick" reflects that well. I think it should stay! :D

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Select will show your image on the top instead of the button layout picture.

Doh, I guess I should have read the screen instead of just wishing it away.

Jesse: It's colorful and moves which are both attention grabbers for starters. If it was only on a start up menu I don't think I'd mind but the menu is something you bring up while working and the extra fluff just kind of breaks the focus on what you are doing.

I'd prefer to have the image you're working on showing through behind the menu buttons.

You already know my thoughts.
I feel like its firework that breaks simplistic feel of the colors. But on the other hand colors is getting less and less simplistic :)
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Ok-- still having the same problem with version g on my Games N' Music setup. I am patching with DLDI Drop. Link here:
http://www.blogadresse.de/2007/01/29/dldi-drop-dldi-patcher-the-mac-way/
When I first load Colors, it starts Initializing and then says "EFSlib could not be initialized". So then I reboot and try again. It opens on the Collecting Smiles screen on the top, but stays blank on the bottom screen and hangs there. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

eric3dee wrote:

Ok-- still having the same problem with version g on my Games N' Music setup.

Send me an e-mail and we'll try to pinpoint the problem.
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i don't know if this is a bug or not but when watching the menu background animation it seems to glitch on the very bottom edge,
just a row 1 pixel high line along the bottom of the screen, often it does not get updated as the brush runs over it causing a few hard edges to show up

just noticed it also does it on the right edge of the screen as well

loving the program so far, now i can claim my ds is a work tool

fatdog wrote:

loving the program so far, now i can claim my ds is a work tool

get back to work! :P

Its really funny to see people accuse you that you are playing while inside the classroom especially if it is the teacher.

they don't know i am just taking down notes.
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One thing that is new that I'm not that fond of is when you clear a painting, it now "swipes" away instead of instantly clearing like in previous versions. Is this necessary, or is it just for looks? Its only a bit annoying because it takes extra time before I can start drawing again ;). It also makes it hard to tell when I can start drawing if I am clearing a painting that had a lot of white in it since it looks like its ready but it's still "wiping" the slate clean.

jetboy wrote:

I dont know if it was fixed on the way, but strokes were not saved right when you was using pressure to control both opacity and size. It seems like this was not 100% repetable bug, so the error might have been caused by something different. It looked like they are drawn full size, or full pressure.

A friend of mine noticed this kind of thing happening.

I noticed something vaguely similar and your post just reminded me of it: when changing brush parameters, the opacity is only updated in the preview brush after you change the size param. Not a big deal by any means, but probably something to fix for the next version.

dark nowhere wrote:

when changing brush parameters, the opacity is only updated in the preview brush after you change the size param. Not a big deal by any means, but probably something to fix for the next version.

I had posted on this earlier, but I didn't realize it was even previewing the opacity at all, its nice to know that it could just be a bug!

EDIT: here's the post I'm referring to: Here

First of all, great little app! The only bad thing I can think of about it is that it's way too addictive :>

Got to know about it yesterday, and you asked for opinions about the animated background from new users. So here we go:
I don't really find it distracting, however, it would be nice with an option to have a white background, or at least freeze the animation.

Saving, loading and wifi functions works perfect running Colors on an M3 Lite Micro. Earned a few points by mailing my GF a cute pic earlier today :>

I also have a couple of feature requests:

1: Would it be possible to implement a timeline slider in the replay control screen, to move around freely along the timeline?
A nice extension to that would be if you could use that as an undo function by going o into replay mode, drag the slider to the position you want to go back to, and resume painting from there.

2: Not surprisingly, it seems like some areas on the touchscreen are not as pressure sensitive as others. Would it be possible to implement an advanced calibration option using some sort of "calibration grid" where you calibrate the pressure in a number of points on the touchscreen, and then interpolate the values between those points to overcome the sensitivity differences?

I was just going to try '06 in my M3 Simply. I put it in the microSD and into the M3 cardrige and executed colors. It was initializing but it took too long. After several minutes I turned the DS off to try again but when I turned it on it didn't recognize the M3 card. I tried again and again and even formated the microSD (later copying the M3 simply files into it) but it didn't work. The microSD card is recognized by my computer but not by the DS. Can someone help me? I'm desperate to try C!'06 (and use all of the other homebrew...)

Help me!!!,

Joaqo

Joaqo wrote:

I was just going to try '06 in my M3 Simply. I put it in the microSD and into the M3 cardrige and executed colors. It was initializing but it took too long. After several minutes I turned the DS off to try again but when I turned it on it didn't recognize the M3 card. I tried again and again and even formated the microSD (later copying the M3 simply files into it) but it didn't work. The microSD card is recognized by my computer but not by the DS. Can someone help me? I'm desperate to try C!'06 (and use all of the other homebrew...)

That doesn't sound very nice. I'm developing on a M3 Simply, so it shouldn't be a problem running Colors! on that.
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After hundreds of trials I realized something. Now, when the M3 (with SD inside) is placed correctly in the DS, the DS doesn't recognized it. It only recognized it when I held the M3 cardridge inside of the DS (The farthest you can get where the DS?s spring mechanism is). It's impossible to be keeping the cardridge pressed for more than one minute (because it hurts). Based on this info does anyone know what to do?

Please?
Joaqo

Jesse, speaking of the animated backgrounds when you say
"it's not necessarily a bad thing since the main reason to go into the main menu while painting is when you want to flip to reevaluate your composition"
I totaly agree with this statement. Now it makes sense to me. It can even be a feature, finding the best graphical way to wash your brain in order to stay fresh.
You really have a strong concept with Colors! and it shows with every release of your software. Thanks.

Joaqo wrote:

After hundreds of trials I realized something. Now, when the M3 (with SD inside) is placed correctly in the DS, the DS doesn't recognized it. It only recognized it when I held the M3 cardridge inside of the DS (The farthest you can get where the DS?s spring mechanism is). It's impossible to be keeping the cardridge pressed for more than one minute (because it hurts). Based on this info does anyone know what to do?

Please?
Joaqo

The contacts on the M3 may be dirty. Simply wiping them may be enough, if not use some switch cleaner or similar.

Thanks! the DS slot had a "trash-particle" over one of the contacts.

Joaqo

Ok, lets go.
I own EZ5, my girl - EZ4.
To make Colors work on her card I got to find out how Colors works :)
"First time running" it checks some string in nds itself (in own binary file).
If string is empty - then program change it and create COLORS directory.
This is not behavior of programs that i'm used to, but anyway, in some cards (like EZ4), Colors probably couldn't write to itself!

I take my EZ5 initialized version, repatch it for DLDI, open in textpad (not notepad), found where "fat:/Colors.nds" and a bit change, for other card (But I mustn't do this, initialized NDS works well, I change name only for placing it in other directory than root).
The only other thing I had do - copy /Colors directory.

Whatever, can you release both versions, initialized (with some standard filename in nds body) and current one?

It would be very nice for many people with those cards to look at colors ;)

BTW, Colors - greatest homebrew for NDS yet!

Maybe colors should come with a default and if it can't access it there, only then rewrite the location?

Here is a random thought...

One of the things that makes colors so wonderful is how simple it is. That anyone can pick it up and be able to use it well in minutes.

However, for the hardcore COLORERS, how about an advanced mode.

Rather than continueing to add more and more features in the main menu and therefore killing the simplisity of the program.

I for one would love switching to advanced. Settings like: setting the pressure and it remembers, changing the menu background to white, maybe even changing the color selection screen layout, maybe diffrent skins... There are hundreds of features that could be added. But adding those settings to the program would kill the simplicity.

I think maybe asking you the first time you load the program if you want basic mode or advanced, then adding a little button in the corner of the screen on the menu to switch back and fourth.

I duno, just a thought.

Brady

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dark nowhere wrote:

Maybe colors should come with a default and if it can't access it there, only then rewrite the location?

That would be much safer.
I would personaly liked that to have colors writting to the default direcotry only root:/colors than having a chance it wont work at all on some systems.

MrKuenning wrote:

Here is a random thought...

I'm not sure i understand you.
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jetboy wrote:

MrKuenning wrote:

Here is a random thought...

I'm not sure i understand you.

You know how alot of programs have a simple and an advanced mode.

Colors could have an advanced mode button, that would mabye give you a settings menu and such so that you could cusomize the program alot more.

That way you could add all of the features people are requesting, without making the program too complicated.

kaputnik wrote:

it would be nice with an option to have a white background, or at least freeze the animation.

Maybe the ability to change what the keys do...

yerenkow wrote:

Ok, lets go.
I own EZ5, my girl - EZ4.
To make Colors work on her card I got to find out how Colors works :)

Impressive. :)

Do you need to do with v1.06g as well? I thought I had fixed the EZ4 problems in that one.
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fatdog wrote:

i don't know if this is a bug or not but when watching the menu background animation it seems to glitch on the very bottom edge,
just a row 1 pixel high line along the bottom of the screen, often it does not get updated as the brush runs over it causing a few hard edges to show up

Yes. It's a bug. You can see the same thing if you are painting on the right or bottom side of the canvas. I've tried to fix it, but only manage to reduce it. I'll do another pass on it at some point.
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adamrgolf wrote:

One thing that is new that I'm not that fond of is when you clear a painting, it now "swipes" away instead of instantly clearing like in previous versions. Is this necessary, or is it just for looks?

It's only for looks, but I think it's kind of funny. :)
I think I will limit it to paintings that has a lot of things on screen though.
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kaputnik wrote:

1: Would it be possible to implement a timeline slider in the replay control screen, to move around freely along the timeline?
A nice extension to that would be if you could use that as an undo function by going o into replay mode, drag the slider to the position you want to go back to, and resume painting from there.

Well, sadly there is no way for me to "move around freely along the timeline". If I would implement support to jump to a specific point it would have to start from the beginning all the time and that could possibly be frustrating for poeple that doesn't understand why it has to be that way. I wish I would have more memory so I could do what masscat does in his Java app.

kaputnik wrote:

2: Not surprisingly, it seems like some areas on the touchscreen are not as pressure sensitive as others. Would it be possible to implement an advanced calibration option using some sort of "calibration grid" where you calibrate the pressure in a number of points on the touchscreen, and then interpolate the values between those points to overcome the sensitivity differences?

Yes. I've been working on a few different angles with that, but nothing that really made things better. I haven't given up though.
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MrKuenning wrote:

However, for the hardcore COLORERS, how about an advanced mode.

It's a good idea, but right now I rather focus on making the simple Colors! as great as it can be. And there is a lot of work left! :)
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Here is example of broken drw file.
http://colors.brombra.net/details.php?i=853
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jetboy wrote:

Here is example of broken drw file.

Works fine for me. It seems like the applet in the gallery can't load it though.
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Jesse wrote:

Well, sadly there is no way for me to "move around freely along the timeline". If I would implement support to jump to a specific point it would have to start from the beginning all the time and that could possibly be frustrating for poeple that doesn't understand why it has to be that way. I wish I would have more memory so I could do what masscat does in his Java app.

Ah, okay. It's not possible to move backwards in the timeline? And yes, you're probably right about the wait for the replay to go from the beginning to the point you want to continue from being annoying.
Just out of curiosity, how does Colors! store the playback buffer?

Jesse wrote:

Yes. I've been working on a few different angles with that, but nothing that really made things better. I haven't given up though.

Okay, nice to hear. Guess time will tell if you manage to come up with something good then. If you don't, it still works to move the picture around to keep drawing in an area whose behavior you know :)

By the way, it would really be nice to be able to select a secondary color that you can activate by holding one of the shoulder buttons or something. It would be really useful for correcting mistakes when you do those simple drawings without all too many colors, when you're doing shadings, etc.

kaputnik wrote:

Ah, okay. It's not possible to move backwards in the timeline?

Nope.

kaputnik wrote:

Just out of curiosity, how does Colors! store the playback buffer?

That's the .drw. It's basically a recording of the input with where you pressed the stylus on the screen.

kaputnik wrote:

By the way, it would really be nice to be able to select a secondary color that you can activate by holding one of the shoulder buttons or something. It would be really useful for correcting mistakes when you do those simple drawings without all too many colors, when you're doing shadings, etc.

Well. That is what the Eyedropper is for. But I guess I need to improve the feedback on that, so you are sure what color you picked.
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masscat wrote:

The contacts on the M3 may be dirty. Simply wiping them may be enough, if not use some switch cleaner or similar.

I've been wondering how to do that. Unlike NES, Game Boy, Super NES, N64, and GBA Game Paks, DS cards have those silly teeth between the contacts, and my cotton swab won't fit. Any tips?
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Jesse wrote:

yerenkow wrote:

Ok, lets go.
I own EZ5, my girl - EZ4.
To make Colors work on her card I got to find out how Colors works :)

Impressive. :)

Do you need to do with v1.06g as well? I thought I had fixed the EZ4 problems in that one.

And you did. :) Not everyone knows the procedure to get homebrew working on EZ4.
Starting from Colors.nds:
* prepend the GBA header "ndsloader.bin" (in linux and the like it's

Code:

$ cat ndsloader.bin Colors.nds > Colors.bin

in DOS... I don't remember :))

* patch the resulting file with DLDI:

Code:

dlditool ezsd.dldi Colors.bin

The file you obtain this way works perfectly on EZ4, it creates the colors directory wherever the executable is, saves and loads correctly.

@yerenkow, let me know if you need further help, links to the mentioned tools or something else.

In DOS it's like this:

Code:

copy /b ndsloader.bin + Colours.nds Colours.bin

to tuLL
I'm appending via Total Comander, it's faster :)
copy first file to some dir, then second copy with same name, then click append.

to xenon
It was very helpfully, I did know this all, but your post would help someone else for sure :)

to Jesse
I didn't saw "g" yet, but if you did fix it's great, I've post my message exactly for that reason.
Thanks for great dev!

just wondering is the canvas size the max the machine could handle or is their potential for increased sizes?

Do you guys think that i should make posting drw file required for a submission to be made to the gallery?
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yes, unless there is a good reason like the file was corrupted.

Playback on the gallery is half the fun.

Plus you can take those drw files and email them to yourself and get a highres version of the image.

jetboy wrote:

Do you guys think that i should make posting drw file required for a submission to be made to the gallery?

Not especially. That said, it should be greatly encouraged, and it really should be a requirement for contests.

Ok, I found a bug, check this out:
http://66.98.138.72/~lchant/colors_slot13.png

Now watch the playback:
http://66.98.138.72/~lchant/colors_slot13.drw

I believe I had resumed painting from playback. If you check the .drw you'll see why, my hand slipped and a fat light blue line went right through it.

EDIT: This might be relevant, I saved this version in a new slot after stopping playback and fixing my mistake.

EDIT: Fixed the links this time.

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jetboy wrote:

Do you guys think that i should make posting drw file required for a submission to be made to the gallery?

For Competitions in my opinion it should be strictly required, for normal submission it should be optional, but i don't see why you cant upload your drw files if it is not corrupted. Hmm... maybe for users with slow internet speed.
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LiteDS wrote:

but i don't see why you cant upload your drw files if it is not corrupted. Hmm... maybe for users with slow internet speed.

sometimes I think it's good to see only the result and not the process. Somehow you take away the magic like knowing the tricks of a magician.
Don't get me wrong I like watching replays a lot but for some pictures I won't, just to enjoy them for what they are and not falling in the downside of being obsessed with 'howto'.

What about a gallery e-mail address as a primitive post-directly-to-gallery system?

Also: The *.png is the image, the *.drw, the playback. What is the *.tmb for?

Joaqo

moket wrote:

LiteDS wrote:

but i don't see why you cant upload your drw files if it is not corrupted. Hmm... maybe for users with slow internet speed.

sometimes I think it's good to see only the result and not the process. Somehow you take away the magic like knowing the tricks of a magician.
Don't get me wrong I like watching replays a lot but for some pictures I won't, just to enjoy them for what they are and not falling in the downside of being obsessed with 'howto'.

I see your point, but even if they know your style and techniques in drawing you can't (i am speaking from experience) just become as good as the artist you learned your techniques from.

I want to share how i draw my Anime girls in colors so others could take something from my techniques and follow. That is my only way to help colors and fellow artist as well. They learn from me i learn from them.

I hope to see lots of Anime artist in the colors gallery in the future!

but for that to happen i think we need some major advertising for the gallery.
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Works on the EZ5 no problems. Also getting the network flood mentioned earlier. Any idea when the Gallery will be implemented through Wi-Fi? Will we be able to submit and download directly from the DS?

I'm having trouble viewing the playback in the gallery. It says error loading applet. Do I have to download something? I have JDK 6 v2 is there anything else I need?

I have Datel games n music and I've tried both DLDI versions. When I turn it on it says that since it's the first time running it'll take a second, then it says "EFSlib could not be initialized." What's wrong?

I have it working on the Games n' Music. Contact Jens because I sent him the patched binary over e-mail, he could probably send it to you.
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There's no place like 127.0.0.1.

If you have working version of colors for the card that needs more than just simple dldi patching to work, please send it to me so i can put it on the gallery download page.
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Here's a link to the one I have that works, please mirror it on the site if you can, Filefront's a terribly laggy page to host files on.

http://files.filefront.com/colors+games+n+musicnds/;8619276;/fileinfo.html
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I repeat:
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What about a gallery e-mail address as a primitive post-directly-to-gallery system?

Also: The *.png is the image, the *.drw, the playback. What is the *.tmb for?

Joaqo

cornaljoe wrote:

Also getting the network flood mentioned earlier. Any idea when the Gallery will be implemented through Wi-Fi?

Not sooner than fix for the network flood. It would be a pain to test it for me.
AFAIK that's not the priority now. Jens is unable to replicate the problem at his place, and nobody has any idea what is wrong and how to fix it.

Quote:

Will we be able to submit and download directly from the DS?

Most likely yes.

Quote:

I'm having trouble viewing the playback in the gallery. It says error loading applet. Do I have to download something? I have JDK 6 v2 is there anything else I need?

Try clearing class cache in your browser's console.
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cornaljoe wrote:

Will we be able to submit and download directly from the DS?

If we do, can we make the gallery images 1024x768? I have resubmitted some of the gallery images via email, just to get a larger copy. Maybe in the gallery you could make it so you ONLY submit the drw file, and then use the server to redraw it in higher rez...

Joaqo wrote:

What about a gallery e-mail address as a primitive post-directly-to-gallery system?

I would say no. I would rather done it right, but done it once.
Full blown post directly to gallery feature is planned.

Quote:

What is the *.tmb for?Joaqo

Thumbnail - its an icon that displays in load/save screens.

MrKuenning wrote:

If we do, can we make the gallery images 1024x768? I have resubmitted some of the gallery images via email, just to get a larger copy. Maybe in the gallery you could make it so you ONLY submit the drw file, and then use the server to redraw it in higher rez...

That is planned from the beggining too, at least posiblity to render images in higher resolution, but it will take some time. It seems simple form the user perspective, but its quite some work behind the scene.
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If something is not working right at the moment - i'm messing with the server.

Done:
Added option to delete your own pictures. If you made mistake in your submission, you can always delete and reupload. Please note that all the stars you got on the deleted picture will be lost.

Added otions to manage your data, and change password.

Added visualisation of the favorites feature

To do list:
- posibility to delete your own submissions (there wont be edit, but you could delete pictures if you messed up with naming, etc. and reupload them).
-posibility to manage your own data.
- visualisation of the favorites feature (all pictures you like are being added to the list already, just there is no presentation for that) and posibility to reorganize them.
- update to FAQ (i need to do editor for myself)
- some more ways to browse gallery (sorting, maybe search feature)
- some more info about pictures (number of strokes, painting time, how many comments there are, etc.)

Edit 2: I'm done for today - the rest will be worked on next week.
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None of the 1.6 versions i've tried work on the CyclDS Evolution.
Gets to the Initializing for the first time screen and stays there forever.

I would really appreciate if you could fix that :D
I really love this app

Fullvacation wrote:

None of the 1.6 versions i've tried work on the CyclDS Evolution.
Gets to the Initializing for the first time screen and stays there forever.

I would really appreciate if you could fix that :D
I really love this app

1. did you DLDI patched it?
2. was 1.05 working on your card?
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When you 'load' the credits and then return to the load screen, the Collecting Smiles splash screen stays on the top screen instead of returning to the "load"-square+animated-background top screen.

calcprogrammer1 wrote:

Here's a link to the one I have that works, please mirror it on the site if you can, Filefront's a terribly laggy page to host files on.

http://files.filefront.com/colors+games+n+musicnds/;8619276;/fileinfo.html

Ya- Jesse actually emailed me this one-- and it worked! Whaddya know. Maybe the OSX DLDI patcher is outdated. :/ In which case I'll need to begin patching my stuff in Windows... or in DSOrganize-- although I can't seem to get that to work on my Games N' Music setup either-- any clues there?

Fullvacation wrote:

None of the 1.6 versions i've tried work on the CyclDS Evolution.
Gets to the Initializing for the first time screen and stays there forever.

Send me an e-mail, and we can try to pinpoint the problem.
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I have a video on youtube explaining how to install DSOrganize 2.9 on GnM, you'll need Windows though.
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There's no place like 127.0.0.1.

The Java applet/app has reached the grand old age of version 1.0.
I believe it makes a good effort at rendering all current .drw files, i.e. those drawn using Colors! 1.06 or less.

Jetboy has made the .jar file available through the Gallery's download page so you can download it from there for off-line use.

Version 1.0 of the application can generate large renders (up to 2048 by 1536). In order to support the larger sizes you may have to increase the amount of memory available to the Java virtual machine. Here is an example of allowing the VM to use 256 MiB:

Code:

java -Xmx256M -jar ColorsDraw_1_0.jar

If not enough memory is available the application will try to fall back to a smaller render size. If you change the scaling whilst a .drw file is loaded there will be a pause whilst the renderer is set up for the new size.

There is also a .drw file viewer in there too. This shows a decode of the .drw file commands. Run using the following:

Code:

java -cp ColorsDraw_1_0.jar deadfish.colorsdraw.DrwFileViewer

I will provide jetboy with a more comprehensive guide which can be made available along with the .jar file.

Excelent work!
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Is there something strange going on with the gallery? I just noticed that the top 2 ranked pictures aren't being displayed on the front page.

I guess taking them off after 30 votes is a good idea anyway since they still show in ranking.

dark nowhere wrote:

Is there something strange going on with the gallery? I just noticed that the top 2 ranked pictures aren't being displayed on the front page.

I guess taking them off after 30 votes is a good idea anyway since they still show in ranking.

well... it reads:

Quote:

Most liked pictures of the week
In this column you can see most liked pictures added last week.

They were hanging for a week, their time have passed.
They are giving a chance to other pictures added later.
Yes they are still visible in rankings.

If there was no rotation on the front page, there wouldn't be a chance for other pictures to break thru.

I'm thinking about redesign and adding third column with totally random pictures, so front page will get more life, and to give older pictures a chance to be voted for.
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Colors! gallery -> http://colors.collectingsmiles.com
Any questions? Try http://colors.collectingsmiles.com/faq.php first, or official forums http://forum.brombra.net

Sorry, my fault for not reading.

That's a good idea though, the random pictures.

some random pictures sounds like a good idea, theres some great images that have almost no stars that seem to have been buried and forgotten

just have a couple of notes,

could there be a confirmation button on the report an offensive image feature on the site, i accidentally clicked it, couldn't see a way of stopping it, sorry to whoevers image that was

and any chance of a cancel button for the wifi feature, i've ended up having to reset a few times from transfers just dying mid way,

and on a related note, when i use the wifi option in the program it completely kills my connection, pretty much disconnecting everyone using the router (wifi and cabled connections) or just making it so slow noone can even load webpage,

once the transfer is stopped everything starts working fine, not sure why its having this effect as i've been able to use other wifi programs on the ds and haven't noticed any problems like this

gbadev.org forum archive

DS homebrew announcements > Colors! v1.06

#140721 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:14 pm

#140722 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:15 pm

#140723 - khan - Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:18 pm

#140728 - Railk - Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:58 pm

#140735 - muchachotron - Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:03 pm

#140738 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:26 pm

#140739 - orija - Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:36 pm

#140740 - moket - Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:37 pm

#140741 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:43 pm

#140742 - jetboy - Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:49 pm

#140743 - chrisis - Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:56 pm

#140744 - orija - Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:58 pm

#140747 - Dib - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:07 pm

#140749 - jetboy - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:13 pm

#140750 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:17 pm

#140751 - orija - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:27 pm

#140753 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:33 pm

#140754 - takieda - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:36 pm

#140755 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:38 pm

#140756 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:39 pm

#140758 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:40 pm

#140759 - takieda - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:42 pm

#140760 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:44 pm

#140761 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:47 pm

#140763 - xenon - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:49 pm

#140764 - jetboy - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:50 pm

#140765 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:51 pm

#140766 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:52 pm

#140767 - xenon - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:54 pm

#140768 - orija - Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:54 pm

#140769 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:01 pm

#140770 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:03 pm

#140771 - jetboy - Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:04 pm

#140772 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:07 pm

#140773 - xenon - Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:08 pm

#140775 - kprojekt - Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:16 pm

#140777 - jetboy - Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:28 pm

#140779 - Sir_Voe - Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:45 pm

#140780 - melw - Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:47 pm

#140783 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:58 pm

#140786 - muchachotron - Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:12 pm

#140787 - jetboy - Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:21 pm

#140788 - muchachotron - Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:30 pm

#140789 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:42 pm

#140791 - orija - Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:07 pm

#140792 - jetboy - Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:12 pm

#140793 - orija - Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:26 pm

#140802 - eric3dee - Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:11 pm

#140803 - krooked - Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:22 pm

#140805 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:23 pm

#140806 - Jesse - Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:26 pm

#140807 - krooked - Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:26 pm

#140811 - dy - Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:38 pm

#140815 - LiteDS - Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:02 am

#140818 - madwurmz.com - Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:18 am

#140823 - calcprogrammer1 - Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:21 am

#140824 - stefer - Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:53 am

#140828 - rattboi - Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:26 am

#140829 - moket - Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:27 am

#140837 - calcprogrammer1 - Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:11 am

#140845 - jetboy - Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:55 am

#140851 - adamrgolf - Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:40 am

#140855 - dark nowhere - Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:41 am

#140858 - melw - Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:56 am

#140859 - adamrgolf - Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:19 am

#140860 - adamrgolf - Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:22 am

#140864 - Fabar - Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:50 am

#140865 - jaycee - Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:56 am

#140866 - dark nowhere - Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:22 am

#140868 - Jesse - Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:41 am

#140869 - adamrgolf - Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:49 am

#140870 - kusma - Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:57 am

#140871 - Fabar - Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:05 am

#140872 - LiteDS - Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:10 am

#140873 - Jesse - Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:16 am

#140874 - jetboy - Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:16 am

#140875 - Jesse - Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:19 am

#140876 - Jesse - Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:20 am