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Here is the latest release of Win2DS, it's got virtual mouse and keyboard support, and it shows a constantly-updating screenshot of your desktop on your DS, as well as a zoomed view.

Win2DS v0.5

Troubleshooting guide:

CubeGuy wrote:

Basic Troubleshooting:
If all else fails, try this.

1. Open start and click on "Run"
2. Enter "command"
3. Enter "ipconfig"
These numbers will correspond to AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD
4. Run the Server
5. On your DS, use the following settings:

DS IP:AAA.BBB.CCC.188
Gateway Address:AAA.BBB.CCC.001
DNS Address:AAA.BBB.CCC.001
Subnet Mask:255.255.255.000
Server IP:AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD

It's definately not foolproof, but it should help a lot of newcomers.

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Changelog:
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v0.5:
-Complete overhaul of the GUI. Now makes full use of the touchscreen and has a Windows-like interface.
-Uses the new WiFi 0.3 lib. WEP, DHCP, automatic settings, and all that fun stuff should work now.
-Added GamePad Mode.
-Maybe some other stuff I don't know it's been a while!

v0.4:
-Added screen swap. Mouse will move inside the zoomed area on the touch screen.
-Fixed some keyboard characters not working from the last version.
-Added bindable keys for Set Zoom and Screen Swap (L and R) in custom keys menu.
-Tweaked keyboard again.

v0.3:
-Added reading WiFi data from firmware- if setup, you will only have to enter server IP and password to connect.
-Added mouse cursor to screenshots.
-Moved keyboard down a bit.
-Shoulder buttons now center around the touched area (not in the corner any more).
-Changed nudge keys to scroll when held.
-Screens now turn off when lid is closed.
-Used updated touch code from libnds.
-Added option for relative mouse movement.
-Added custom keys option. You can now bind keyboard keys to the DS buttons.
-Added minor speed boost to screenshots.

v0.2:
-Added scrollable zoomed view of the desktop.
-Added faster speed option for screenshot updates which will not wait in between screenshots.
-Added small borders on the full-screen view for easier access to the screen edges.
-Improved touch keyboard functionality.
-Added support for special keys sent to Windows.
-Added middle mouse button support.
-Changed button layout on DS.
-Added 'Run on Startup' option to have the server start when it is ran.
-Settings are now saved in Windows between sessions.

v0.1a:
-Fixed problem with screenshots updating and worked around another (screenshots should never stop updating now).
-Fixed potential lock-up with password checking.

Last edited by Sintax on Fri May 05, 2006 4:46 am; edited 10 times in total

already posted!!

amazing work indeed
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Last edited by Dudu.exe on Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:39 am; edited 1 time in total

Yes, but now the creator has control of the topic.
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I know it says v 0.1 however, it HAS been updated, for I had a previous release that had no screen on the bottom nor the user interface nor keyboard graphic nor password, so this would seem to be v 0.2

I like the new keyboard and screen cap. All we need now is a zoom and a faster refresh rate (mine freezes after too many refreshes).
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Whoa! I didn't know it had an update!

This is an amazing app! No if we can just have a zoom function.

This is a lot like pointyremote but more developed.

Holy wow. This is awesome.

Great work!

Hmm, I have tried seemingly every combination and cannot get this to get past the waiting stage. Can anyone give me a chart for which IP I see in my LAN details to where I type in the actual application? I think I have tried almost everything.

Thanks.

I was thinking of doing this. I guess I don't need to, now :)

How often does the screenshot update? Do you think it could be made faster? (Is it resized client-side or server-side?).

Also... have you thought about using a different keyboard. That particular keyboard always makes me cringe. I suggest seeing about getting your hands on the DSLinux keyboard.

Now, all the more reason to get that wireless router...
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There are four speeds (+ off) at which you can have the screenshot update, you can change it in the menu while you're connected.

Edged, the names in your LAN Details match the names in my app (ie. DNS, Gateway, etc), I can't image how you can't figure out which one goes where.

This app is really cool. Can I offer some suggestions for buttons?

Have a config option to ask whether or not you're a righty or a lefty. The controls here would be for a righty:

<- ^ v and -> should be for manual mouse movement. There should be a sprite for the mouse on the DS

L = Left mouse Click
R = Right mouse Click

B = backspace
A = enter
Y = Mouse wheel Scroll Up
X = Mouse wheel Scroll Down

Select = Zoom. It could toggle between a few settings..maybe first one could be VGA 1:1 (show pixel for Pixel, follow the mouse), second setting could be 2x zoom out, next one could be 4x zoom out, and the last could be full screen?

Start = Menu

The options would be inverted if, say, someone were a lefty?

I realize there's probably no real way to stream sound, but is that a possibility?

*tries something crazy and tries to go into a DOS screen*
Lol, yeah didn't think that would work :)

This is an awesome app, though. If only it could animate slightly faster than it already does.. But yeah.. cool app :) I would love to use my DS to "use" my computer away from my computer :)

EDIT: Found a bug, the "return" key also does not work
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Just awsome !
Interface is great, refresh speed is ok for me !
I have some requests so:
- some keys in virtual keyboard don't seem to work ( return, arrows ... )
- When the virtual keyboard is activated, it would be great to have the PC screen on the top screen instead of having the keyboard on the screen !
- Zoom would be awesome too :)
- Notebook-touch-panel-like control for precise movements ( maybe only in zoom mode )
- double-screen enabled, could we swap between two screens connected on a PC ?
- mouse middle button :D

Last edited by Sylfurd on Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:01 am; edited 1 time in total

WOW!

This app works fantasicaly now.
I havnt got a single problem :) :)

As I am typeing this my DS is showing the screen and updateing at a rate of 1 second or so.

ok, one slight problem: Delete dosnt seem to work when sending keys

And Zoom is really needed :)

But apart from that! wow!

great app we need sumthing to convert every thing to make it visible on a smaller screen in sum cases zoom will not work as u will only be able to see part of the screen i used a program to run my screen res at 256x192 and it worked alright exept it was a bit cluttered, oh and mrpickles worth i think its clear its resized server side as the SS.jpg is the frame being sent to the ds (same folder as the exe)
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Sintax wrote:

Edged, the names in your LAN Details match the names in my app (ie. DNS, Gateway, etc), I can't image how you can't figure out which one goes where.

Yes I know, but I tried matching the ones in details with the ones on my DS, and had no luck. Anyway, I got it to work. Only had to change 2 of the settings.

Yo, Sintax.

Sintax wrote:

I just noticed there's a topic about the demo I posted on a private forum

Unfortunately, Games on SA is currently public.
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holy shit dude, this is such an awesome app!

can you make button colot change when button is pressed... like the shift?
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I see I'm not the only one stuck at the "waiting" stage. I have everything set up to match my LAN perfectly as far as I can tell, yet the server always says "Client timed out" after a little while.

Maybe needs some mouse smoothing and some zoom going on, but so far its pretty damn amazing :)

Basic Troubleshooting:
If all else fails, try this.

1. Open start and click on "Run"
2. Enter "command"
3. Enter "ipconfig"
These numbers will correspond to AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD
4. Run the Server
5. On your DS, use the following settings:

DS IP:AAA.BBB.CCC.188
Gateway Address:AAA.BBB.CCC.001
DNS Address:AAA.BBB.CCC.001
Subnet Mask:255.255.255.000
Server IP:AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD

It's definately not foolproof, but it should help a lot of newcomers.
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Okay... turns out that following that handy guide the problem for me was the 189 DS IP address that is used as standard - everything else was right. I switched it down to .003 and now everything works perfectly. Someone else mentioned the limit on many routers to around 150 or so which of course 189 is well above. Guess this is a very important thing and will probably solve it for most people who arent having any luck.
Great app. Much prefer the setup to PointyRemote, and I'm surprised at the speed and usefulness. Kudos! :)

Hi there I've noticed with the pointyremote thread there's alot ofpeople asking for alot of different button configs so I'll just ask if one feature would be possiable for you to do:

Quote:

Button config?s sent from PC to DS:
The PC app config having a list of exe?s & Button config?s for each. When it detects you are focused on any app in the list, then it passes the corresponding button configuration set to the DS (weather automatically or by asking for your permission - with say hold Left Trigger to bypass this). For example if a media player is focused on and is in the list the DS remaps L & R become FF & Rewind, A becomes Play/Pause, B Stop, Left & Right D-Pad skip tracks, etc

Thanks for your hardwork!

Random suggestion. Why not add in a nice BIG movable/floating on-screen keyboard to the PC server side of the app that you could tap on rather than having to bring up the DS one? Something like the one you get by default with Tablet Edition. Basically VERY BIG (For viewing and typing when on the DS display) but I think it might feel a bit more natural and wouldnt rely quite so much on the tiny DS keyboard/accuracy. Just an idea for useability.

That's a good idea, Snowy, I'll probably put that in at some point. I'll welcome ideas that haven't been said a million times before.

CubeGuy, I'll put that in the first post, although 'ipconfig' doesn't work for me for some reason.

Yes, a technique to make writtening easier would be nice. (Id like to use ICQ and such on it)
Its a bit fiddly at the moment. Especialy as for some reason delete dosnt work on mine.

Other surgestions:

*Customising DS buttons as hot-links to windows programs? (Windows Assability Magnifier, Notepad, WMP ect)
Maybe this would work by having a little "favorate apps" thing sever side.

*An alternative to traditional keyboard entry could be a program like "Dasha". This would work very well with a stylus.
This would be a major addition though, so its just an idea.

*A simple sound when you click with the mouse.

* Refresh FPS meter (I am just curious how many seconds an update takes and how my pc/wireless set ups effect it)

* Feature on the sever to automaticaly make the pc desktop smaller (and returns to the old setting when you exit)

m2pt5 wrote:

Yo, Sintax.

Sintax wrote:

I just noticed there's a topic about the demo I posted on a private forum

Unfortunately, Games on SA is currently public.

Sorry to step on your toes, Sintax. But http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showforum=81 is far from private.

Okay, so a feature that would be great is customizable buttons.

I gave my ideal control scheme. how about we talk about the kinds of things that the DS program will allow you to configure?

Some of the options you should probably be able to choose:
-Every single Key
-Mouse Wheel Up and Down
-Cursor Key (Left, Down, Up, Right)
-volume control up or down, or Mute
-Run Custom Program (an option to include separate EXE would appear)
-Shutdown computer
-Restart computer
-Logoff
-Media Stop
-Media Play
-Media Next
-Media Previous
-Media Pause

Just a few so far...
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Maybe it's just me, but my stylus won't reach all the way up to the tip top of the screen, nor the very bottom just cause it's either a rounded point, or calibration for homebrew is off. Might I suggest maybe a 3 pixel black border around the image and touch screen functions, so that you could reach the top if your needed to?

telephasic wrote:

m2pt5 wrote:

Yo, Sintax.

Sintax wrote:

I just noticed there's a topic about the demo I posted on a private forum

Unfortunately, Games on SA is currently public.

Sorry to step on your toes, Sintax. But http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showforum=81 is far from private.

Thats not the private forum he was talking about I dont think. Im guessing it was on the site that he posted the first version of it on, and also, he probably goes to more than just 2 forums, so you wouldnt really know where he first posted it, would you?

I was thinking of STAKED's idea back when I was going to try this myself before you did it instead (for which I am not in the slightest bit displeased :) )
Tapping into dual monitor stuff to suit the DS would be pretty cool. I wonder if it's possible...

I'm thinking that it would be more efficient if these button configurations were handled on the PC end?
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just wanted to throw in my 2 cents :)

1. using the Top screen for a zoomed image while having the bottom remain the same ( possible clearer image, but the zoom would take care of that )

2. using the D-pad up and down as the mouse SCROLL wheel, (help on web sites)

3. switch mouse clicks to D-pad left and right ( easier on the hand )

4. more colors

5. Save setting to SRAM

6. MOST IMPORTANT .
Thank you for a great app :)
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Sintax wrote:

That's a good idea, Snowy, I'll probably put that in at some point. I'll welcome ideas that haven't been said a million times before.

Just don't give me any credit for it.. I'm only an ideas man and one that is thankful for all the great coders the DS has (I must learn to code on the DS lol).

Anyway I was just thinking config stored on the PC side would also make it easier on compatibility / configuration as you wouldn't have to save anything to the DS flashcard/SRAM (Which has been painful for most homebrew developers on SD/CF/Flash Memory).

How about this for an idea...
Break the touch screen down into blocks and allow configuration per block (for things like media player controls) add in a feature to upload any jpeg over it to the DS and people could start designing custom controls.

Sorry I diversified too much.. possiabilities seem endless

Anyway thanks again for the update and keep up the good code as you can see it's very much appreciated!

Sintax wrote:

That's a good idea, Snowy, I'll probably put that in at some point. I'll welcome ideas that haven't been said a million times before.

Why don't you make a to-do list of things that are planned? Or at least list off the suggestions you like, and the ones you dislike...that way you don't get many people repeating the same thing. That way those ideas won't be repeated a million times over.
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AnalogMan wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but my stylus won't reach all the way up to the tip top of the screen, nor the very bottom just cause it's either a rounded point, or calibration for homebrew is off. Might I suggest maybe a 3 pixel black border around the image and touch screen functions, so that you could reach the top if your needed to?

Thats a very good idea actualy, its slightly off on mine as well.

Another option is having the desktop zoomed in, but scrollable...kinda like windows does sometimes. (when the desktop res is higher then the moniter res).

Of course, this would probably take up more bandwidth, as it would be sending more then the DS screens worth of information each time.
(I assume at the moment its resized at the pc end)

Sintax, are you aware there is a bug where if more than 32 AP's are picked up, it'll stop counting and not list further ones? I know it scrolls off-screen after a dozen or so but I discovered this today.

Yeah I know, the APs will just keep listing, I was just too lazy to do anything about it because I figure most people won't pick up that many before finding theirs. I'll fix it later.

Just a little thought to speed things up and improve the images transfered to the DS.
It is (of course) possible to use the Windows API to capture an image of a single window. Perhaps the PC program could use such a function with the active window to get the image to resize and send to DS. This would be extremely useful for reasons which I can't exactly think how to explain, but I think we all understand with a bit of thought...
(Bigger image, no wasted space, zoom in and out by resizing Window through Windows, scrollbar and window menu always at the same position on screen, no unused/unuseable image content is transfered, and more).

Of course, we would also need a crafty way to switch windows or resume full desktop view, but that wouldn't be too complicated. (I think).
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Mr. Picklesworth wrote:

Just a little thought to speed things up and improve the images transfered to the DS.
It is (of course) possible to use the Windows API to capture an image of a single window. Perhaps the PC program could use such a function with the active window to get the image to resize and send to DS. This would be extremely useful for reasons which I can't exactly think how to explain, but I think we all understand with a bit of thought...
(Bigger image, no wasted space, zoom in and out by resizing Window through Windows, scrollbar and window menu always at the same position on screen, no unused/unuseable image content is transfered, and more).

Of course, we would also need a crafty way to switch windows or resume full desktop view, but that wouldn't be too complicated. (I think).

Genius idea!

You could simple have L/R buttoms to switch active windows.
Kinda like a DS equivelent of "ALT+TAB"

The active window would automaticaly appeared cropped and scaled on the DS screen.
The PC could do all the work here indeed, the DS would only need to send the requests. (as always).

Youd keep the zoomed out mode, naturely, but I get the feeling most people would just have it perminately on the "Just Active Window" view.

Just wondering*****

How much of the DS's hardware is being used for this app?????

is there room for improvement or is it running at full throttle?[/list]
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Would also be nice to have an AutoStart server without having to hit yes to the server, I like to have it load with windows on start in the background.
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All good ideas, I could implement something that resizes the window to the DS's resolution and captures only that window, although I'm not sure how well most windows will work at 256x192. I'll probably put in capturing only the active window in any case. I'll add autostart once I flesh out the server a bit more, I'll add registry settings to the next release.

As for how much of the hardware is used, the WiFi part is probably used at its maximum if you stream the screen as fast as possible (also in next release), but other than that, it's not too intensive. Although rendering the jpg slows things down the most.

Sintax wrote:

All good ideas, I could implement something that resizes the window to the DS's resolution and captures only that window, although I'm not sure how well most windows will work at 256x192. I'll probably put in capturing only the active window in any case. I'll add autostart once I flesh out the server a bit more, I'll add registry settings to the next release.

As for how much of the hardware is used, the WiFi part is probably used at its maximum if you stream the screen as fast as possible (also in next release), but other than that, it's not too intensive. Although rendering the jpg slows things down the most.

Is it possible to kind of capture to a sort of movie format, and use a codec that would be easily decoded on the DS? Do you suppose it would be too CPU intensive to render a 256x192 window that followed a centered mouse movement that say, the DS's bottom screen could follow? I guess perhaps you wouldn't be able to have a "full screen" mode animating the same way on the upper screen in that case, because of the CPU power that it would need.

You wouldn't need to decode at a high framerate, though hell even at most, 10fps would be great (if it were even possible, that is)

There's gotta be a faster alternative to rendering JPEGs..
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I'd agree that JPEG is a little slow to render... but of course bitmap data may take far too much bandwidth. You'll some kind of compression going on.

You really need to use a format that you can easily to an image compare and only send the data thats changed.

dual monitor support should be fairly easy. Any root coordnates for extra screens are simply relative to 0*0 on the primary monitor. So if you were to have a secondary screen positioned above the default, the root coordnates of that one would simply be 0*-600.

I haven't checked, but on pointyremote, you should be able to view the second screen by changing the values in the server.
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Durandle wrote:

You really need to use a format that you can easily to an image compare and only send the data thats changed.

Thats a good idea, but it would be quite complex to do.

Can you actually convince Windows to act as if there's a second (and maybe third), 256x192 monitor, even though the video hardware doesn't report one? If you could, and just take whatever image Windows renders to this virtual monitor and stream it to DS, that'd be pretty cool (though I dunno how useful a 256x192 monitor would be), but I don't think Windows supports 'fake' monitors.

Darkflame :

If the data starts life as bitmap than its quit easy - just check which bits have changed and take a rectangle snap shot that has a size fitting just the changed pixels.

HyperHacker wrote:

Can you actually convince Windows to act as if there's a second (and maybe third), 256x192 monitor, even though the video hardware doesn't report one? If you could, and just take whatever image Windows renders to this virtual monitor and stream it to DS, that'd be pretty cool (though I dunno how useful a 256x192 monitor would be), but I don't think Windows supports 'fake' monitors.

Windows won't accept fake monitors, however, a window or program can run offscreen. I'm not sure how you would manage to take a snapshot of that.
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Hi,

Can anyone help?

I cant get this app to run on my DS - All I get is 2 black screens.

Ive copied the.nds & .GBA over to my sd card and am running directly from there..

You have to rename the .ds.gba to .nds and us that on your SuperCard.

Thanks Sintax

From what I can see you have created an excellent app.

Ive managed to acces the program but cant get it to connect.

Ice read every post there is on the subject but am still struggling.

The one that was supposed to help noobs from cableguy which says "these numbers will be represented aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd" doesnt make any sense to me.

Can anyone offer an idiots guide?

Please dont flame the novice - remember you were once a novice...

New release, still on the 1emulation forums for now:

http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16994

thewarden wrote:

Thanks Sintax

From what I can see you have created an excellent app.

Ive managed to acces the program but cant get it to connect.

Ice read every post there is on the subject but am still struggling.

The one that was supposed to help noobs from cableguy which says "these numbers will be represented aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd" doesnt make any sense to me.

Can anyone offer an idiots guide?

Please dont flame the novice - remember you were once a novice...

Cable...guy...?

Anyway...

say you got the numbers 123.456.789.101
that would mean

aaa =123
bbb =456
ccc =789
ddd =101
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Does anyone know by any chance a way to fix the miscalibration set by the homebrew touchscreen games?

I really cant hit 1 or esc on the virtual keyboard this program is using, however I can configure DS2Key's keyboard with no trouble at all.

Also, I tried drawing all borders on Kirby CC and True Swing Golf(Great game btw!), and they all work, so it isnt a problem with calibration...

Nushio wrote:

Does anyone know by any chance a way to fix the miscalibration set by the homebrew touchscreen games?

I really cant hit 1 or esc on the virtual keyboard this program is using, however I can configure DS2Key's keyboard with no trouble at all.

Also, I tried drawing all borders on Kirby CC and True Swing Golf(Great game btw!), and they all work, so it isnt a problem with calibration...

From the looks of it, it's actually code from the homebrewn authors, and nothing a casual user could fix.
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Doesn't work well for me.
My config:

Server is running on PC (192.168.1.151).
Have a SoftAP running on laptop computer. It has the IPs 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.130.

PC and laptop are connected to each other through my WEP-enabled Wireless Router.

DS settings:
DS IP: 192.168.0.189
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS: 192.168.0.1
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Server IP: 192.168.1.151

The DS can connect to the SoftAP. After entering the password, it shows a menu "Virtual Desktop" and "Disconnect". I choose "Virtual Desktop". Now it freezes with 2 black screens.

The server window on the PC says:
Server opened on port 8888.
Connection accepted from 192.168.1.130.
Client timed out.

Any idea what's wrong? I was able to use PointyRemote 0.000012a just fine that way.

Filb wrote:

Doesn't work well for me.
My config:

Server is running on PC (192.168.1.151).
Have a SoftAP running on laptop computer. It has the IPs 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.130.

PC and laptop are connected to each other through my WEP-enabled Wireless Router.

DS settings:
DS IP: 192.168.0.189
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
DNS: 192.168.0.1
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Server IP: 192.168.1.151

The DS can connect to the SoftAP. After entering the password, it shows a menu "Virtual Desktop" and "Disconnect". I choose "Virtual Desktop". Now it freezes with 2 black screens.

The server window on the PC says:
Server opened on port 8888.
Connection accepted from 192.168.1.130.
Client timed out.

Any idea what's wrong? I was able to use PointyRemote 0.000012a just fine that way.

Make DS IP: 192.168.0.189
into DS IP: 192.168.0.9

Okay, one lossless (I believe it is this, because pictures of the same resolution are the same size), BMP, screenshot of UT2k4 at 320x200 resolution is 187 Kilobytes

"...in practice the maximum 802.11b throughput that an application can achieve is about 5.9 Mbit/s over TCP and 7.1 Mbit/s over UDP." - Wikipedia

Since we're using UDP, the transfer speed is .888MB/s, not that great of network speed, considering top of the line wired can hit 125MB/s 141 times the DS's maximum theoretical transfer rate. But most of you are probably on what is typically reffered to as 100Mbps which is 12.5 MB/s, still 14.1 times the transfer rate of the DS, which is a significant FPS increase if the DS is only doing 1 FPS (which it isn't.)

The maximum refresh rate of the DS- sending lossless files @ 320x200 resolution is...- 4.862631016043 FPS, which is unnacceptable for ANY game.

So lets see if we can solve this connundrum.

First, we'll take the file and see what we can do to it.

I know what all you buzz-worders are thinking 'COMPRESS COMPRESS DAMNIT ZOMG COMPRESS >_>' But no, let's try to stay away from that, compression eats up precious CPU cycles, which could be used on some serious fragging- I mean, hell, the reason we're doing this is so we can get good graphics on the DS without waiting for NST to remove their heads from their anuses, and release MP:H already. ;-;

What we'll do first is lower the resolution of the file, I mean, why waste good storage space, or transfer speed as it may be.

http://bigopinionstudios.com/original.bmp

Yup, the opening UT2k4 screenshot in it's original glory.

http://bigopinionstudios.com/256192.bmp

And that's the slightly squished one made in paint.

It should look normal on the DS, but there are several other options for clipping off those pixels- removing an equal amount from each side, or running the game in a resolution that can be properly scaled to one of the DS's screens- those of you astute in math and common resolutions have probably realized that if you turn the DS sideways, it's 512x384. this is true, but who wants a big line in the middle of UT?

You're probably wondering what kind of FPS you would get with the 256x192 image, it's not much better. 6.1667, as opposed to 5.9 something, it's not much, but it's something, we'll keep working with the 256x192 image, just to save the DS some processing power.

One option is making it black and white, though not particularly pretty, I'm estimating that it could at least DOUBLE the FPS, let's try.

Ok,... here,... it,... comes.

[size=huge]147 FPS!!!![/size]

Yup, you could pull off 147 FPS with uncompressed, black and white images AT the DS's resoultion. Cut out a few of the cycles for drawing, controls, and wireless and you're all set! Right?

No,..

Wrong,...

Very very wrong.

Click the following image to see why you are wrong.

http://bigopinionstudios.com/bw.bmp

Yup, nothing.

Let's try that on another screenshot.

http://bigopinionstudios.com/2561922.bmp

A bit more bright.. not the original, but you know what I did to it.

http://bigopinionstudios.com/bw2.bmp

Nope, no black and white- at least not through MSPaint's compression, I've nothing else at my disposal though, so it shall have to do.

How about file compressions. There is one that sticks out, far above the rest, blending unmatched quality with a filesize that is perfect for transfer to the DS.
http://bigopinionstudios.com/Shot00075.TIF

http://bigopinionstudios.com/Shot00075.bmp

http://bigopinionstudios.com/Shot00075.GIF

http://bigopinionstudios.com/256BMP.bmp

http://bigopinionstudios.com/Shot00075.PNG

http://bigopinionstudios.com/BMP16bit.bmp

http://bigopinionstudios.com/Shot00075.JPG

If you're stupid and couldn't guess, highlight the area in the stars to see the answer.

*******************************
***********JPEG**********
*******************************

True, it requires more processing power, but if it sends at twice the speed of any other of the file formats, but temporarily takes up only half of the RAM of any of the other types, I believe it's defianatley the way to go as far as compressions are concerned.

The final send speed of JPEG is 85 FPS, and I'd settle for half that, wouldn't you? rawr.

Ok.. that's my two cents, I'll shut up and go to sleep now.

Pinesal wrote:

Make DS IP: 192.168.0.189
into DS IP: 192.168.0.9

Didn't help. Still those black screens after choosing "Virtual Desktop" :(

deltro wrote:

"...in practice the maximum 802.11b throughput that an application can achieve is about 5.9 Mbit/s over TCP and 7.1 Mbit/s over UDP." - Wikipedia

Since we're using UDP, the transfer speed is .888MB/s,

I'd love that speed :)
Actually max speed for the DS is less thatn 1/5 of that: DS can connect up to 2 not the maximum 802.11b speed (11), thet would be 2/11 of that, so let's say .153MB/s.

Bafio

deltro:

Simple black/white convertion is a bit crap - it just says "everything over this value is white, the rest is black". What you want is black/white dithering which looks kind of ok. Even so, no use for games or video, would look pretty bad.

would it be possible to use DPG as a fileformat (no sound of course) and have the server itself encode to 15fps at a specific bitrate in real time? In MoonShell, 120k bitrate and 15fps = perfect full screen DS video :)

And since the moonshell source is opensource, it shouldn't be too hard to get the library for it. It's all a matter of asking for permission
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In theory its possible.... but it wouldn't be realtime (as in lots of lag) and it would be pretty hard.

OK, so... I run the server, it sits there. I turn off WEP, put in 192.168.0.100 for the server address as reported by ipconfig, 192.168.2.11 for the DS's address as reported by the router when I use Nintendo WFC, and set the default gateway to 192.168.0.1 as also reported by ipconfig. There's nothing listed under DNS suffix, so I just leave that as it is... start it up, enter the password (blank, since I'm just testing), and it never connects. The DS doesn't even show up in the router's list of connections.

What I have is my PC, connected to an ordinary router, connected to a wireless router/DSL modem. This works fine for NWFC, but I can't seem to get any homebrew wifi apps to work. They can all find the AP just fine, though.

And you call yourself a hyper-hacker?
I kiiiiid... I kiiiiid... ;0

Seriously, I understand that your accesspoint is set at 192.168.2.1, your normal router at 192.168.0.1 and your pc running the server on 192.168.0.100?

If so, try setting the gateway to 192.168.2.1 being the accesspoint's IP. Basically, you're telling your DS which IP to consult first, which (in line) is your accesspoint/router, who knows that the destination IP (192.168.0.100) is located behind the normal router on 192.168.0.1 and will thus forward your DS's messages to the normal router (who will then forward it to your PC, etc)

[edit] by the way, are you sure your DS is the .11 one and your PC .100?

I hack ROMs, not wifi. <_<

Really I'm not sure anymore. Every time I look one thing is 192.168.0.100 and another is 192.168.2.11, even 192.168.2.13 in one case. The DS only ever shows up when using NWFC.

New version! Read first post! Enjoy!

The best place to watch for progress is here:
http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showforum=89

Version 0.3 Changelog:

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Changelog:
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v0.3:

-Added reading WiFi data from firmware- if setup, you will only have to enter server IP and password to connect.
-Added mouse cursor to screenshots.
-Moved keyboard down a bit.
-Shoulder buttons now center around the touched area (not in the corner any more).
-Changed nudge keys to scroll when held.
-Screens now turn off when lid is closed.
-Used updated touch code from libnds.
-Added option for relative mouse movement.
-Added custom keys option. You can now bind keyboard keys to the DS buttons.

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Ok, the newest version is useless. The keyboard is on the top screen, therefore not working.

MaHe wrote:

Ok, the newest version is useless. The keyboard is on the top screen, therefore not working.

Shut up! Fixed!

All you had to do before Sintax fixed it was shut the DS's lid and open it back up again. =o

Sintax wrote:

MaHe wrote:

Ok, the newest version is useless. The keyboard is on the top screen, therefore not working.

Shut up! Fixed!

I was just giving you feedback, O.K.?! Chill, dude ... I love your program.

MaHe wrote:

Sintax wrote:

MaHe wrote:

Ok, the newest version is useless. The keyboard is on the top screen, therefore not working.

Shut up! Fixed!

I was just giving you feedback, O.K.?! Chill, dude ... I love your program.

Sintax really should have put a smilie in his post. It's a little hard to see he was just joking, especially if you're on the receiving end. (I'm pretty sure he was just joking.....)

Yes I was pretty much joking although it does hurt my feelings to call my program useless when it was just a little bug that I already fixed :.(

Well it is pretty useless when you can't touch the keyboard...

You could still touch the keyboard, the screens were just switched, so it would probably be kinda difficult, but not impossible, and I fixed it in a timely manner so shut up to you too!

lawl

<3 Sintax

So for whatever reason, sometimes when I start the program on my DS and try to enter the server IP, the keyboard won't register any of my taps. Other times, it works fine. Could it have something to do with my v1, unflashed firmware?

I don't know really. What are you using to run Win2DS (type flash cart, etc)?

I'm using the SD version of an M3 Perfect Adapter. Now I have FlashMe v6, but it's still doing it off and on. Weird.

I'm having a similar issue (Flashme V6, GBAMP). It's not a huge deal, but it does slow down the whole process of typing in things.

I love this app, though. Thanks for all your hard work!

Now this application has to be my favourite for my DS...
The latest release works perfectly... I've noticed that if my WFC settings are found automatically, I cant use the feature so I just enter my computers IP address. If I enter my router settings manually then it works.

Also I just love the keyboard but the only problem with it is that it doesnt support all the characters.

One thing I would like in the next release is when you touch somewhere, the top screen will move to that position zoomed (like pointyremote or whatever its called).
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should this work with the original nintendo wifi adapter.. ca'nt fnid anything 'bout it

shaz wrote:

Also I just love the keyboard but the only problem with it is that it doesnt support all the characters.

One thing I would like in the next release is when you touch somewhere, the top screen will move to that position zoomed (like pointyremote or whatever its called).

What character doesn't it support?

Also, you should read the readme :). Hold L and tap the screen to move the zoom to that position.

Sintax wrote:

shaz wrote:

Also I just love the keyboard but the only problem with it is that it doesnt support all the characters.

One thing I would like in the next release is when you touch somewhere, the top screen will move to that position zoomed (like pointyremote or whatever its called).

What character doesn't it support?

Also, you should read the readme :). Hold L and tap the screen to move the zoom to that position.

Well there are lots and lots of characters that dont work or are in the wrong places. The shift + character doesnt work too. Go check em out.
Also thanks for telling me about the zoom thing, its better now.

Btw, for some reason it just stops working. Nothing gets updated, as if the application on the DS gets frozen. This happens after around 4 minutes when useing DS2Win. Is there a reason for this?
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Sintax wrote:

What character doesn't it support?

A few among them are: : ; ) ( ? [ ] and =

For some reason, the new versions always hang on "Waiting..." for me.
I'm sure it's connected to the server, because I can get the incorrect password box also.
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So I'm wondering if my touchscreen problem is widespread among M3 SD users. I tried to run Nibbles DS 1.1, but got stuck at the 'Touch to start" screen, which wouldn't register me jabbing at my touchscreen. I then got Nibbles DS 1.2, and that worked fine. I'm wondering if the M3 isn't setting some bit or something (although why it would work on occasion is a mystery). Unfortunately, I can't find the Nibbles DS source, so I can't check for any differences myself.

New version with the ability to swap the zoomed and full screenshot screens.

CPColin, try this version of the .nds and tell me if it changes anything.

Neither .nds version had a working touchscreen, but the ds.gba version worked great. One thing though: moving the stylus around on the zoomed-in view moved my mouse twice as much. That is, tapping in the center of the touchscreen put the mouse pointer in the lower-right corner of the touchscreen, and tapping in the lower-right corner put the pointer twice as far down and to the right.

Wacky M3.

Adding a WMB logo and icon can increase compatiblity with the M3. It also gives the WMB users something nicer to look at than a corrupt logo.

ndstool -c ds2win.nds -9 ds2win.arm9 -7 ds2win.arm7 -o logo.bmp -b 32x32.bmp "DS2Win;Remote control your PC"

CubeGuy wrote:

For some reason, the new versions always hang on "Waiting..." for me.
I'm sure it's connected to the server, because I can get the incorrect password box also.

I was having the same issue. Mine was hanging on "Waiting..." regardless of what I put in for a password, but if I entered no password at all (on my DS), it immediately gave me the rejected password message. I tried starting a server without a password and it still rejected my password when I put it in blank.

Then I realized that I'm an idiot. So if this is pretty much your problem too, CubeGuy, maybe all you need to do is pop your WiFi game in and manually set up your connection. I guess Win2DS can't handle DHCP. ;-)

I'm sure someone else has already posted about that (it probably says it right in the readme I didn't look at). So if you're smarter than I am and already had that much figured out, I'm sorry for wasting your time!

Sektor wrote:

Adding a WMB logo and icon can increase compatiblity with the M3. It also gives the WMB users something nicer to look at than a corrupt logo.

ndstool -c ds2win.nds -9 ds2win.arm9 -7 ds2win.arm7 -o logo.bmp -b 32x32.bmp "DS2Win;Remote control your PC"

Thanks, I'll do that.

Sintax, when are you going to be releasing a new version of this... Seriously I cant wait!
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I just released a new version, you silly goose!

Plus I just just put one up with some bugfixes.

COOL :)
gonna try out how the new version is :)

I've tried using the settings for mario kart and I've tried manual settings and none of them work to connect to the PC. Is teh DS supposed to have a blinking light or anything? It just hangs at teh waiting screen.

Anything else I need to look at to make this work.

Using a M3 CF

NM, just realized my problem is because it cant do WEP yet, lol

seriously wtf dude? its impossible to imput my ip on this app. next update plz change it, this is ridicilous.

n3z wrote:

seriously wtf dude? its impossible to imput my ip on this app. next update plz change it, this is ridicilous.

Seriously, wtf man... what version are you using?
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n3z wrote:

seriously wtf dude? its impossible to imput my ip on this app. next update plz change it, this is ridicilous.

If the problem you're having is with the touchscreen not registering any input, you should say so in your post, instead of just vaguely complaining. I had the same problem on my M3SD. I switched fron the .nds version to the .ds.gba version and everything worked fine.

im sorry, i was just pissed about it trying for at least a half an hour.
im gonna try rhe gba.ds version now. (im using the newest version)

2 more issues.

1) when I connected, I then disconnected ahortly after. I get the waiting screen on an attempted reconnect. Connecting was hit or miss with nothing changed on my end.

2) Is it supposed to be slow and choppy? It's pretty much usable to me.

M3 CF

Sintax wrote:

DS IP:AAA.BBB.CCC.188
Gateway Address:AAA.BBB.CCC.001
DNS Address:AAA.BBB.CCC.001
Subnet Mask:255.255.255.000
Server IP:AAA.BBB.CCC.DDD

ok i did that and the i get this:

http://www.picfront.com/images/command.bmp
But it looks like my ip is something els than you explane with AAA.BBB.CCC.

tjas wrote:

ok i did that and the i get this:

http://www.picfront.com/images/command.bmp
But it looks like my ip is something els than you explane with AAA.BBB.CCC.

DS IP: 192.168.001.188
Gateway Address: 192.168.001.001
DNS Address: most likely 192.168.001.001
Subnet Mask:255.255.255.000
Server IP: 192.168.001.100 (your IP, as YOU'RE running the server)

thanks alot! i'm going to try. I hope it works.

edit:Now i am in connectio status: waiting...

but nothing happens :(

just for the record... you are using a router/accesspoint on 192.168.1.1 right?

yes the picture i posted is from the same computer as where the wificard is. Its frustrating!

Ah ok... thought you were trying to access the server in this order:
DS -> AP/router -> your PC

instead, you're running:
DS -> your PC

Provided you can connect your DS to your PC (with the wifi card running in AP mode):
DS IP: 192.168.001.188
Gateway Address: 192.168.001.100 (as you're the DS's gateway)
DNS Address: most likely 192.168.001.100 (not entirely sure about this, think your PC as an AP will take care of that)
Subnet Mask:255.255.255.000
Server IP: 192.168.001.100

thanks again I wil try it :)

bummer, its still waiting for connectio on the screen and my ap is up and running on my pc so whats wrong?

i have a question...kinda stupid..^_^, on 1emulation forum there is also a app called Poinlyremote. is it the same with this one 'cause both tend to wirelessly remote your PC? if not, what's the different?

GragonSon wrote:

i have a question...kinda stupid..^_^, on 1emulation forum there is also a app called Poinlyremote. is it the same with this one 'cause both tend to wirelessly remote your PC? if not, what's the different?

Made by 2 different developers.

The main differences (currently, at least) are that Win2DS allows you to set the speed of the updates (and set them as none), and map the keys of the DS "on the fly", without having to touch the pc. This allows for some games to be played far from the pc.

i found something interesting when i made the fist screenshot of my ipconfig my ap was not on here is a picture of ipconfig with my ap on (in red) wich ip is the right one?

http://www.picfront.com/images/commandap.bmp

tjas wrote:

i found something interesting when i made the fist screenshot of my ipconfig my ap was not on here is a picture of ipconfig with my ap on (in red) wich ip is the right one?

http://www.picfront.com/images/commandap.bmp

There's 2 IPs, one if for your LAN (192.168.1.100) and the other one (in red) is for the internet.

For your DS, when it asks for server IP, give it the LAN ip if its part of the LAN.

but the wireless ip is also my accespoint

man this sucks i have tryed everything you guy's told my but nothingworks. damn

if your PC is connected to your AP without any wires (as I believe after seeing your 'recent discovery'), you should use:
DS IP: 169.254.249.222 (just a random number for the last segment)
Gateway Address: 169.254.249.1 (if that's your AP's IP. Try to ping that one from your PC and see whether it responds. If it does, it's most likely your AP)
DNS Address: same as Gateway
Subnet Mask:255.255.255.000
Server IP: 169.254.249.214 (make sure it's your PC's IP in the WAN. I notice your IP is dynamic, so be sure to check it!)

also: are you running any firewalls (on PC or in the AP/router)? Port forwarding an option?

ok i'm abit further but now my pc say's that the ip is conflicting with another system on the network

An IP address starting with 169.254 is a temporary address assigned by a DHCP stack. If you see it in practice, it means that DHCP failed to get an IP address from your ISP. Go to whatismyip.com through your router to see the real IP.
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yes it works :) thanks everybody! I tryed this

Quote:

f your PC is connected to your AP without any wires (as I believe after seeing your 'recent discovery'), you should use:
DS IP: 169.254.249.222 (just a random number for the last segment)
Gateway Address: 169.254.249.1 (if that's your AP's IP. Try to ping that one from your PC and see whether it responds. If it does, it's most likely your AP)
DNS Address: same as Gateway
Subnet Mask:255.255.255.000
Server IP: 169.254.249.214 (make sure it's your PC's IP in the WAN. I notice your IP is dynamic, so be sure to check it!)

And it works thanks black bird!

Does this support WEP-128? I need it to support WEP-128!
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tjas wrote:

yes it works :) thanks everybody! I tryed this (...)
And it works thanks black bird!

And here we see the importance of supplying all the details ;)

In reply to the poster above: wasn't WEP only supported in the latest libs? Don't think this version does then.

when i swich screens so that the inzoom screen is on the touchscreen it dosen't react wel to touching.

vb_master wrote:

Does this support WEP-128? I need it to support WEP-128!

It will. Patience is the key.
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I was wondering if someone could help me as well - I looked through the forums here and tried a few things, but nothing seems to be working.

I'm trying to be able to use Win2DS to remotely access my desktop which is physically wired into my University's Network. The DS has no problem connecting to the wireless network all over campus, but I can't get it to communicate with the server program running on my computer through the Internet. I feel like I may be missing a simple step (UDP forwarding? How does that work?). Unfortunately, I have a limited understanding of network protocols and languages. Could anyone offer me some help?

Google 'port forwarding' and forward UDP port 8888.

Well see, I don't have access to the routers (as they are owned by the university) and all the google results I get talk about configuring the router.

Any other ideas?

Lo all,
Does anybody know what to do, i'm blocked to the waiting message.
And can someone tell me how to make the keyboard works because i can't use it by default Oo.

Thank in advance
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Killjoy42 wrote:

Well see, I don't have access to the routers (as they are owned by the university) and all the google results I get talk about configuring the router.

Any other ideas?

Buy a router, put your DS and the router in a Faraday cage so that the Wi-Fi signals don't interfere, and then configure the router. Or wait until vacation to do this.
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Well my goal is to be able to access my desktop from my DS from anywhere on campus via the wireless Internet connection - not through the network. So I guess the real question is - is that possible?

I know it's possible to access a computer remotely from any other computer with an Internet connection, but can I do it from the DS?

Killjoy42 wrote:

Well my goal is to be able to access my desktop from my DS from anywhere on campus via the wireless Internet connection - not through the network. So I guess the real question is - is that possible?

If you're on campus, you'll have to be able to prove to the university's IT department that accessing your desktop from your DS is necessary to completing your course-related responsibilities. Is this the case?
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Well, no. But playing video games over the network isn't related to my coursework either, and they register NDS, X-Box, PS2, and Gamecube machines routinely.

What you're saying seems to be that I won't be able to do this without the computer center's help, correct?

I'm fine with that, I was just hoping there was a way to circumvent it.

Am I being ignored :/

Nuja wrote:

Am I being ignored :/

Your questions have been asked before in this very thread. Search for my posts in this thread and see if it applies to your keyboard problem.

This is cool..
I created an account only to say this.. And then to post my wishes for this (in the very distant future I guess)..

Sound..
Streaming the computers sounds aswell..
Mic. Sending the sound from the DS mic back to the computer..

This would make the DS into a very nice media-thing and allso allow anyone to use skype when not at the computer (without carrying a laptop around all the time) :)

I know we're probably never going to see this, and I'm sorry if it has been requested allready.. I did read the entire thread, but I've allready forgotten what was in the post just prior to this.. (bad memory, i think)

I wish my EZ-Pass arrives today, so I can finally -try- this thing.. And some of the other homebrew things..

Great work on Win2DS.. It's great, as far as I've read :) (I wonder if -this- is the remote app that'll allow me to play swg while not at the computer?)

I'm getting a "CANNOTCONNECT" message every time I try to connect after it tries to authenticate. These are my settings:

In ip config:
connection-specific nds address: gv.shawcable.net
ip address: 192.168.0.151
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 192.168.0.1

I tried my WFC settings and when it asks for ip I put: 192.168.0.151 and also tried 192.168.0.1 and it won't connect.

I tried to set it up manually and put in the following settings:
DS IP: 192.168.000.002 (as set up in my WFC)
gateway address: 192.168.000.001
dns address: same as gateway address
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
server ip: 192.168.000.151

When I hit enter, I get 2 apps found. The name of mine, and lynksys. Both of them give the "cannotconnect" error after trying to authenticate. Can anyone help me out? Where have I gone wrong here?

Ok, I've re-set my connection so my IP changed. Anyway, here is a screen of my IPCONFIG. What do I input into the setup to get this working? Thanks a lot for any help, I really want to get this app working :)
[Images not permitted - Click here to view it]

:( No one's able to help me?

what it should be wrote:

connection-specific nds address: 192.168.000.150
ip address: 192.168.0.135
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 192.168.0.1

if thats what your config menu says...
but mine shows a diffrent set up >.>

what it should be wrote:

DS IP: 192.168.000.150
Gateway Address: 192.168.0.1
DNS Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Server ip:192.168.0.135

ok? now stop complaining :D...
only i can do that
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@ Madrigal: what are your settings in WFC?

BTW, is this app still beiing developped further or was this the final build? Cause one thing i would like to see in a possible new build is that the zoomed in screen will follow the mouse pointer. With the pointer beiing the center of the zoomed screen.

I think he is waiting on on TCP, before he make anything updates on the program.

bor_venin wrote:

BTW, is this app still beiing developped further or was this the final build? Cause one thing i would like to see in a possible new build is that the zoomed in screen will follow the mouse pointer. With the pointer beiing the center of the zoomed screen.

You can pretty much do this already if you just hold down the L key (R key if you're in left-handed mode) while you're moving the pointer.

bor_venin wrote:

@ Madrigal: what are your settings in WFC?

SSID and WEP as in my router config
Auto-Obtain IP: No
IP: 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
Auto obtain DNS: No
Primary DNS: 192.168.0.1
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0

I'm able to connect to Nintendo Wi-fi games with no problems.

I can't seem to authenticate when connecting with Win2DS. Could it be a problem with my router settings?

Madrigal wrote:

bor_venin wrote:

@ Madrigal: what are your settings in WFC?

SSID and WEP as in my router config
Auto-Obtain IP: No
IP: 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
Auto obtain DNS: No
Primary DNS: 192.168.0.1
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0

I'm able to connect to Nintendo Wi-fi games with no problems.

I can't seem to authenticate when connecting with Win2DS. Could it be a problem with my router settings?

Yup. WEP.
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MaHe wrote:

Madrigal wrote:

bor_venin wrote:

@ Madrigal: what are your settings in WFC?

SSID and WEP as in my router config
Auto-Obtain IP: No
IP: 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
Auto obtain DNS: No
Primary DNS: 192.168.0.1
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0

I'm able to connect to Nintendo Wi-fi games with no problems.

I can't seem to authenticate when connecting with Win2DS. Could it be a problem with my router settings?

Yup. WEP.

Hmm. The WEP key settings work for WFC, so why wouldn't they work for Win2DS?

Madrigal wrote:

MaHe wrote:

Madrigal wrote:

bor_venin wrote:

@ Madrigal: what are your settings in WFC?

SSID and WEP as in my router config
Auto-Obtain IP: No
IP: 192.168.0.2
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.0.1
Auto obtain DNS: No
Primary DNS: 192.168.0.1
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0

I'm able to connect to Nintendo Wi-fi games with no problems.

I can't seem to authenticate when connecting with Win2DS. Could it be a problem with my router settings?

Yup. WEP.

Hmm. The WEP key settings work for WFC, so why wouldn't they work for Win2DS?

becouse whr homebrew wifi library do not work if it.. in the version used in win2ds..
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correct me if im wrong,
but can't someone update the program with the new wifi lib so it supports wep?...

(or was the last release not including wep,
and he is still testing wep)
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2x NDS/L(FMv7-ORG:v4,FMv7-org:DSL)
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2x 1gb (MicroDrive{typeII}&SanDisk{typeI})
1x SuperPass2
1x Supercard-CF
MoonShell skins

Yep, that's it. WEP doesn't work in any released build. Last I heard though, it's working in the current one, just other things aren't done yet. (Or was that already released?)

he has a 'Testing' release,
http://www.akkit.org/dswifi/wifi_lib_test_.nds
notice the _ after the title :P,
this has wep
and other things :P
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1x SuperPass2
1x Supercard-CF
MoonShell skins

Hmm... this is weird... my WFC settings are all fine, nothing on Auto. But Win2DS doesn't see my AP... or rather it DOES, but the name is blank... I see 4 APs but one is blank, and the others are neighbors.

What does this mean?

Your SSID is hidden in your wireless router's settings. If you unhide it, it will show up. Are you able to connect ok even though the name is blank?

nope, cannot connect. The SSID is visible when searching for an AP using a wifi game, and the invisible setting is unchecked in my router settings.

I can't get this to work, the server keeps saying "client timed out".

DS IP: 192.168.001.109
Gateway Address: 192.168.001.001
DNS Address: 192.168.001.001
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.000
Server IP: 192.168.001.120

Then it goes to "Connection Status: Waiting" and hangs. Server says "Connection accepted from 192.168.1.109", then "Client timed out". WEP is disabled (it wouldn't do anything at all with WEP enabled)

Touch screen is finicky too -- sometimes it won't register touches at all, and sometimes it registers a touch on the wrong key.

DS2Key won't work either.

hey i try win2ds and its not work for me when i enter all the detials:
ip adrress:
ds adrress:
dns server:
gateway:
subnet mask and after that i enter password that iput in win2ds server and its not work the scrren is still in waiting so can you plaese help me?

so plaese help me thanx omri

Well I finally got it working by turning off WEP and setting it to "open", and it's pretty cool. It desperately needs to be able to adjust the level of zoom though, and the keyboard can be sketchy at times. Other than that, it's pretty much perfect. Great work :)

So now that the new Wifi lib is out, can we expect a WEP-compatible update?

When the new wifi lib was released, DS2Win sprung into mind.
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Good to know people are still thinking about it, well so am I! Yeah, the new much-whined-about features will be in like WEP and DHCP, and I'll take a stab at converting the way it does things to use TCP. It'll also get a complete GUI overhaul, making complete use of the touch-screen, although this has been done for a while, I was waiting to bundle it with this release. If you really wanna check out the new GUI, look around the NeoFlash competition sections.

Other than that, I think I am done with this project, so source will most likely follow not far behind. Enjoy! (when you get it)

Sintax wrote:

Good to know people are still thinking about it, well so am I! Yeah, the new much-whined-about features will be in like WEP and DHCP, and I'll take a stab at converting the way it does things to use TCP. It'll also get a complete GUI overhaul, making complete use of the touch-screen, although this has been done for a while, I was waiting to bundle it with this release. If you really wanna check out the new GUI, look around the NeoFlash competition sections.

Other than that, I think I am done with this project, so source will most likely follow not far behind. Enjoy! (when you get it)

Sweet! Any ETA on the new rxlease?

shaz wrote:

When the new wifi lib was released, DS2Win sprung into mind.

DS2Win? Control your DS from Windows? ;-)

Oh neat! I like the interface changes (although the arrows to change the refresh rates seem a little sluggish at times).

Once we've got the new Wifi lib behind it, all that will be missing is the streaming audio! ;-P

New version with new GUI and new Wifi lib support.

New!

Well this would be pretty damn awesome, but the bugs... oh, the bugs!

-Windows runs slower than a snail carrying a boulder uphill through a stream of molasses when the server is running. It takes like 30 seconds to move the mouse!
-The client doesn't give any notification when disconnected.
-It disconnects after the first refresh (which takes about 20 seconds)
-After you stop the server it won't work until you close and re-open it. The client has the same problem.
-The server always disappears to the tray as soon as it's started, making stopping it that much harder.
-The mouse jumps around at random. Specifically it likes to jump far away as it nears the "Close Server" button, which is especially bad with the unbearable lag.
-The cursor keeps disappearing.

The GUI is nice though! :-p

Where can I download the latest version? the only link I can find is on the first post, and that's for 0.5 I think

0.5 is the latest version.

HyperHacker wrote:

-Windows runs slower than a snail carrying a boulder uphill through a stream of molasses when the server is running. It takes like 30 seconds to move the mouse!

Your computer is old and worthless! You also probably have a poor connection. Although there is an internal variable which says how often to send mouse movements, I will probably have to make it external for crappy computers like yours!

Quote:

-The client doesn't give any notification when disconnected.

I knew this, but it would be such a rare case that the server closes down without you doing it, so you probably already know!

Quote:

-It disconnects after the first refresh (which takes about 20 seconds)

You probably have a poor connection and this is a known bug I suppose (maybe a firewall problem), but I still blame your connection!

Quote:

-After you stop the server it won't work until you close and re-open it. The client has the same problem.

Not sure what this means, with the client at least (I can reconnect with the client a million times). I haven't tested stopping and starting the server much, what on earth do you need to stop it so much for ?!

Quote:

-The server always disappears to the tray as soon as it's started, making stopping it that much harder.

This is to stop people from messing with the server window from the DS, because then it will stop responding. And what on earth do you need to stop it so much for ?!

Quote:

-The mouse jumps around at random. Specifically it likes to jump far away as it nears the "Close Server" button, which is especially bad with the unbearable lag.

You have a poor connection and a worthless computer! Also, you're not supposed to mess with the server window on the DS, because it will cause these kinds of problems.

Quote:

-The cursor keeps disappearing.

Never seen this happen. Poor connection, worthless computer!

Quote:

The GUI is nice though! :-p

Hey, thanks buddy.

Sintax wrote:

Poor connection, worthless computer!

How much are you planning to pitch into HyperHacker's computer upgrade donation box?
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Well, i tried it and it seems a hell lot smoother than previous versions. The new GUI is VERY easy to use.

Though I'm wondering how the gamepad mode works. Can I use my DS to play some Zsnes? I tried it with a few EMUs and the button presses are not recognized.

Nice release and it's a bit faster than the last one, but there still isn't a much needed feature of being able to set the level of zoom (unless I'm missing it). Being able to adjust the zoom level is crucial because otherwise it takes forever to read text!!

tepples wrote:

Sintax wrote:

Poor connection, worthless computer!

How much are you planning to pitch into HyperHacker's computer upgrade donation box?

I will give him nothing and in fact demand that he pay ME for being able to use such an awesome program.

compacho wrote:

Though I'm wondering how the gamepad mode works. Can I use my DS to play some Zsnes? I tried it with a few EMUs and the button presses are not recognized.

The gamepad mode is just there because I had added the ability to customize the keys anyway, so I figured I'd add a mode more specialized to it (basically just turns off the screens to save power). I don't know how well it works with different programs, it sends Virtual Keystrokes, so Windows programs will most likely work while more specialized or console-based programs may not. They all should work but it's Windows so who knows!

Madrigal wrote:

Nice release and it's a bit faster than the last one, but there still isn't a much needed feature of being able to set the level of zoom (unless I'm missing it). Being able to adjust the zoom level is crucial because otherwise it takes forever to read text!!

I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm never gonna add this! The zoomed view is a full 1 to 1 zoom, so every pixel on the PC is a a pixel on the DS. If you notice, shrinking down the screen distorts the picutre in any case (you can see the colors a bit messed up on the full-screen view), so it'd look bad shrunk to any extent, and then I'd have to hear people complain about that (just kidding, but not really). That distortion is caused by Windows (everything is Windows' fault!) because I use a built-in Windows function to make the JPG's.

Besides, I am pretty much done with the project in any case. I may take another stab at using TCP for the screenshots (my last try was a horrible failture), but other than that I am planning on finishing up what's there and releasing the source soon.

I've tried ZSNES and VBA and the custom gamepad mode doesn't work with either.. Also when I've tried to customize the keys on VBA when I enter a key in one of the boxes from the DS, they change to blank entries.

Am I the only one to have a very messy GUI?
I can use the software, but there's a very annoying repeting pattern in the background, the only thing I can see are the numbered keys and the text menus. You'll say it's enough to use the app, and I'll answer yes, but as the others are all saying the new GUI looks great, I wish I could see it on my DS too!
By the way, I use a M3 CF (update 18) with firmware V6.
Thanks!

MatLeOuf wrote:

Am I the only one to have a very messy GUI?

By the way, I use a M3 CF (update 18) with firmware V6.
Thanks!

This is apparently a bug known with the M3. I don't know what to do about it, it's one of those things I can't test myself.

I can't get passed ACQUIRINGDHCP. after that, it says CANNOTCONNECT.
Any ideas why?
If I use both manual and auto, it will come with that.
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Sintax wrote:

Your computer is old and worthless! You also probably have a poor connection.

I have a 1.7ghz Sempron, 256MB of RAM and 5mbps DSL with dedicated wireless router. Everything else runs fine. I don't think my computer is the problem.

Quote:

-The client doesn't give any notification when disconnected.

I knew this, but it would be such a rare case that the server closes down without you doing it, so you probably already know!

The server closing might not happen often, but just plain losing the connection can happen easily with wifi, especially if you're not near the AP.

Quote:

-It disconnects after the first refresh (which takes about 20 seconds)

You probably have a poor connection and this is a known bug I suppose (maybe a firewall problem), but I still blame your connection!

I don't have a firewall, and again, my connection is probably faster than most peoples' here.

Quote:

-After you stop the server it won't work until you close and re-open it. The client has the same problem.

Not sure what this means, with the client at least (I can reconnect with the client a million times). I haven't tested stopping and starting the server much, what on earth do you need to stop it so much for ?!

I mean when you bring the server window back up and click Stop, it won't start again; it says the port is already mapped or some such. The client waits forever after you enter the password if you've already connected once. I have to stop it to regain control of my computer.

Quote:

-The mouse jumps around at random. Specifically it likes to jump far away as it nears the "Close Server" button, which is especially bad with the unbearable lag.

You have a poor connection and a worthless computer! Also, you're not supposed to mess with the server window on the DS, because it will cause these kinds of problems.

This happens when the DS isn't even on.

Quote:

That distortion is caused by Windows (everything is Windows' fault!) because I use a built-in Windows function to make the JPG's.

Well then no wonder it's slow.

About the graphics corruption on the M3. I saw this on the DS IRC topic:

Quote:

-Clear VRAM on load, may solve M3 graphics corruption

I think doing this will fix the graphics as the previous version of the IRC Client didn't work, but the one with this modification did.

Keep up the good work!

mort wrote:

I think doing this will fix the graphics as the previous version of the IRC Client didn't work, but the one with this modification did.

Ok, someone with an M3, try this:

http://win2ds.1emulation.com/Win2DSM3Test.zip

shaz wrote:

I can't get passed ACQUIRINGDHCP. after that, it says CANNOTCONNECT.
Any ideas why?
If I use both manual and auto, it will come with that.

So can someone help me?
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OK, i finally got the gamepad mode to work. Tried it on a PC game and it works. Remember to remap the buttons within the ds program.

shaz wrote:

So can someone help me?

Check this:

http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=18082

Sintax wrote:

Ok, someone with an M3, try this:

http://win2ds.1emulation.com/Win2DSM3Test.zip

I did, the GUI looks perfect now. Thanks!

No luck..
I have buffalo USB Wi-Fi stick... so I need WLAN PCI Card to use this, right?
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You need a wireless access point. You cannot use those unless they have some sort of "soft AP" mode or can be hacked into a Nintendo USB stick.
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dualscreenman wrote:

What about Gaim DS? Gaim pretty much has support for all IM programs.

tepples wrote:

"Goshdammit, the DS is not a Gaim-boy! It's a third pillar!"

dualscreenman wrote:

Xtreme wrote:

No luck..
I have buffalo USB Wi-Fi stick... so I need WLAN PCI Card to use this, right?

You need a wireless access point. You cannot use those unless they have some sort of "soft AP" mode or can be hacked into a Nintendo USB stick.

Do you mean Nintendo Wi-Fi stick will work? My stick is working with modded Nintendo drivers (actually it's almost the same as Nintendo stick).

I have tested it, but it doesn't work. I have disabled firewall, but doesn't make difference. Any suggestions?
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Xtreme wrote:

Do you mean Nintendo Wi-Fi stick will work? My stick is working with modded Nintendo drivers (actually it's almost the same as Nintendo stick).

I have tested it, but it doesn't work. I have disabled firewall, but doesn't make difference. Any suggestions?

Yes it will work, I use same as you, but I made it to a AP. See here how you do it: http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=7564&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

Scroll little down, you will find a guide made by Waffle. Its not hard to do it.

Ok, so it does not work with out-of-the-box method. :-) Now I just need to modify those and see if it works. Thanks for the hint.
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I'm not asked my WEP, is it getting it from WFC settings?

after i put in my password for the server, nothing happens except 'waiting...'

I can get this to run every time now, but it runs like a snail. Is it because I'm using a 802.11 B router maybe? Is the G much better for this?

hoagie wrote:

I can get this to run every time now, but it runs like a snail. Is it because I'm using a 802.11 B router maybe? Is the G much better for this?

Except the DS doesn't support G. So, you won't get any speed increase switching over to a G router.
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its most likely the distance between you and the accesspoint.. or maybe because its old?

I test this right in front of my computer and access point and its unusably choppy. Any ideas on how to fix this or should I just get another Access point.

I have no problem with wifi DS games though

I fixed my problem by going in WFC settings and I changed to manual IP :)

compacho wrote:

Well, i tried it and it seems a hell lot smoother than previous versions. The new GUI is VERY easy to use.

Though I'm wondering how the gamepad mode works. Can I use my DS to play some Zsnes? I tried it with a few EMUs and the button presses are not recognized.

If you want to use your DS to play Znes, try this app. Works perfectly:
http://www.1emulation.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=17557&st=0

Here is the source, by request, hope you learn something from it or something:

http://win2ds.1emulation.com/Win2DS-Source.zip

Hey, this tool looks really great... I was wondering, though, how to get it working on my DS ;)

I know my router should work because it works with Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection games. Also, although Auto Connect doesn't work, Manual Connect works up until I have to enter the password. After that, I am hung up on the "Connection Status: Waiting..." screen.

Thanks again for this program and for any help.

EDIT: Checked the 1emulation site and it seems I may need to forward port 8888. I understand that this is an incredibly stupid question, but how do I do that?

How to do that depends on whether you are using the Nintendo USB dongle or a self-contained wireless access point appliance (e.g. Linksys, NETGEAR). It further depends on which router you use (whether it's part of the AP or not) and, if you are using the Nintendo USB dongle, what software firewall you have running on your Windows XP PC.
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Ah, I see... well, before I do that then, I guess that since I'm using a shared internet connection, I need to change second DNS address to my computer's LAN ID or address. How do I find out what this is?

Sorry for the noob questions. I'll have to look into forwarding ports on my Cisco Aironet 340 (it's an oldie...).

Sintax wrote:

Here is the source, by request, hope you learn something from it or something:

http://win2ds.1emulation.com/Win2DS-Source.zip

Good stuff!! I'll have to take a look at this soon. I killed my new DS Lite by trying to use a custom cartridge adapter in the DS card slot :/

Hey man,

After looking through the source some, I must say I'm fairly impressed... more so than I thought I would be. It's a really clean and nice implimentation especially for the GUI.

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