#16778 - Pat-Man - Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:58 pm
I'm just getting started, I really don't have a computer to do any of this off of, but I have experience with computer graphix and some of the code that goes into it. Anyway, I'm looking for a quick list of all the shit I should download, buy, read before I venture further, and I have a few questions to be asked:
1)Mac or PC? I was thinking of getting a new G5 (purdy), or maybe a custom PC, which would be better?
That's it for the questions really. What are the best programs and tutorials? And where can I get hardware to tranfer games to the GBA cartrige?
Thanks for all of your time,
Pat-Man
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#16780 - poslundc - Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:26 pm
| Pat-Man wrote: |
| 1)Mac or PC? I was thinking of getting a new G5 (purdy), or maybe a custom PC, which would be better? |
I develop for the GBA on a Mac, so it's doable, but there's little contest that the current tools that exist for GBA development are much better on PC.
Of course, assuming you want a computer for more than just GBA development, you can always drop a couple hundred bucks on a perfectly functional, modern PC to run your GBA tools. I have a Windows laptop that I keep networked with my Mac for when I want to do debugging using VBA. I've even got SSH running between the two so I can edit and recompile everything on the Mac side (from a terminal running on the PC) and then run it in VBA.
Also, we have a Beginners forum with a FAQ. Please make use of them.
Dan.
#16784 - Pat-Man - Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:36 am
I never start in the begginers' cricle ever. I find I learn faster when I start at advanced levels, it's also much more fun. So any tutorials that deal with advanced ideas would be great. Also, what programs do you all use? Thanks! :)
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#16785 - animension - Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:45 am
| Pat-Man wrote: |
| I never start in the begginers' cricle ever. I find I learn faster when I start at advanced levels, it's also much more fun. |
The reason the beginners forum and FAQ exist isn't to water down someone's learning capabilities by restricting them to a lower level of learning, but to reduce the redundancies in posts and to allow for proper thread management -- this being the reason forums are divided into separate catagories at all. Most people don't have a problem with helping people, but others may be annoyed if they have to sift through a forum with beginners threads (that could have been answered had the FAQ been even glossed over) that don't belong there.
| Pat-Man wrote: |
| So any tutorials that deal with advanced ideas would be great. Also, what programs do you all use? Thanks! :) |
These questions are answered in the FAQ. I suggest you read it.
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#16787 - poslundc - Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:11 am
| Pat-Man wrote: |
| I never start in the begginers' cricle ever. |
Then you shouldn't be asking beginner questions.
There's no shame in being a beginner, but if you want people to be responsive to your queries then you should post them in the appropriate forum.
And as animension pointed out, please read the bloody FAQ.
(Sorry if I was being repetitive just now, but I didn't feel animension's post adequately reflected my annoyance at people who want help but don't feel the inclination to respect basic group ettiquette.)
Dan.
#16794 - dagamer34 - Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:05 am
The search function desperately needs to be added to the FAQ. It should be the first thing beginners do on the forum.
What do you mean be advanced stuff? Like HBlank tricks and using ASM to get some speed when GCC acts like crap?
All good things come in time....
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#16802 - tepples - Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:01 am
| dagamer34 wrote: |
| The search function desperately needs to be added to the FAQ. |
Done.
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#16842 - Pat-Man - Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:20 pm
Well, I'm not going to read some begginers manual designed for the intelligent impaired just to find out what some of the better programs are and what other major more mature tutorials I should read. I'm not "ashamed" of being a "begginer", it's just I find begginer tutorials a little annoying, childish in their demeanor and slow in pace. Also, this was really a one time post, I noticed there was a lot of programs and tutorials out there to play with and read and I didn't want to have to waste time with the crappy ones. If you won't or can't help me, I'll go somewhere else, and when I start posting threads asking how to do simple mundain shit, then you can beggin to flame me and tell me to move to the kiddy pool, until then, maybe you all should show a little manners. Thanks for all of your help, or lack there of, I'll take my shit elsewhere.
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#16862 - animension - Thu Feb 26, 2004 1:08 am
First off, you are missing the point entirely. Secondly, as Dan pointed out, there are certain rules of ettiquette that are expected of you, which you seem to have no compunction tossing to the winds.
Have you even read the FAQ here? If you have, what makes you think it's for the intelligence-impaired? Frankly, I think it's an insult to the FAQ writer to say so, as I can confidently presume that Tepples did NOT intend it to be for the intelligence-impaired but for the beginner -- the both of which are mutually exclusive concepts. If you haven't read the FAQ, then there's absolutely no ground for you to assess this particular FAQ as being for the intelligence-impaired.
| Pat-Man wrote: |
| If you won't or can't help me, I'll go somewhere else, and when I start posting threads asking how to do simple mundain shit, then you can beggin to flame me and tell me to move to the kiddy pool, until then, maybe you all should show a little manners. Thanks for all of your help, or lack there of, I'll take my shit elsewhere. |
Thanks for telling us how to run this forum after posting here 3 times. Interesting that you should mention manners while lacing your suggestion with the word "shit". I've no intent to argue with an immovable mountain. If you don't want to read the ruddy FAQ, then don't read it, but DON'T expect anyone to help you with an attitude like that. If you still disagree with the very basic request that you read the FAQ before persisting to ask questions that are readily answered there, and think we are being obstinent snobs in doing so, then the door's to your left -- don't let it hit you on the way out.
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#16880 - sgeos - Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:55 am
| Pat-Man wrote: |
| Well, I'm not going to read some begginers manual designed for the intelligent impaired just to find out what some of the better programs are and what other major more mature tutorials I should read. |
The way I see it, all tutorials are for beginners. If you want to jump into the deep right away, find some reference docs, download devkit and start experimenting. google "gbatek"
You'll want to get an MBV2 cable and some type of flash cart. Again, google is your friend.
-Brendan
#16887 - yaustar - Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:30 am
Fine....You want a list of programs?
gfx2gba = graphics convertor
mapEd 0.98 = map editor 16 colour only
DevKitAdv = compilar
ConTEXT = Source editor
or
DevCpp = IDE
or
any other IDE
VisualBoyAdvance = Emulator + memory viewer
reference
Cowbite Spec
GBATek
All of which have been forementioned in the forums....
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#17190 - Burre - Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:45 am
| Pat-Man wrote: |
| Well, I'm not going to read some begginers manual designed for the intelligent impaired just to find out what some of the better programs are and what other major more mature tutorials I should read. I'm not "ashamed" of being a "begginer", it's just I find begginer tutorials a little annoying, childish in their demeanor and slow in pace. Also, this was really a one time post, I noticed there was a lot of programs and tutorials out there to play with and read and I didn't want to have to waste time with the crappy ones. If you won't or can't help me, I'll go somewhere else, and when I start posting threads asking how to do simple mundain shit, then you can beggin to flame me and tell me to move to the kiddy pool, until then, maybe you all should show a little manners. Thanks for all of your help, or lack there of, I'll take my shit elsewhere. |
I fully agree with the others on this issue. Offering help is a favour and not a responibility. Most people are happy to help newbies, but one have to give some to get some. And the currency in this particular case is effort. A mutual give and take. Do your reasearch, and whereever you fail or don't understand, post your issue here (if not already answered). Our job is not to clear the path ahead of you, but rather to help you overcome your (well defined) obtacles. I have a hard time believing that you possibly couldn't find information about what devkits and tools there are out there googling or searching the forum, especially being, as you claim, "an advanced user".
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#17193 - Large Metal Teeth - Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:16 am
Where's that Maddox guy when we need him? He would have loved this thread.