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Announcements And Comments > D-S Developers Donation Drive

#113663 - Mrshlee - Fri Dec 29, 2006 3:32 pm

The 2007 Developers Donation Drive has begun!

I've decided to start the new year with a little help and support for the homebrew developers in our fantastic community. A chance for us to give back to the many homebrew developers make the homebrew for our enjoyment!

Support the community and the developers by donating to the people who make a impact, improve and encourage our community to grow.

All money goes towards the developer via Paypal.

http://www.dev-scene.com/Donation_Drive

Donations made using the ChipIN buttons are listed and will be shown publically.

P.S. I would love to offer prizes to people whom donate towards the developers in our community. I'm going to email around but if anyone is willing to donate prizes, that would be greatly appreciated.
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#113683 - Lynx - Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:52 pm

Uhh.. maybe it's just my lack of understanding, but why does it say "If you click Wintermute.. 100% of the cash goes to Wintermute minus paypal fees."? Why wouldn't everyone get 100% of the cash minus paypal fees?

Anyway, nice idea.. but what I really think would be nice is if someone took the time to find every developer blog that had a donate button (yeah, the chip-in meters look nice, but aren't really needed) and put it on a single link page.. hmm..
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#113687 - chuckstudios - Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:21 pm

Lynx wrote:
Uhh.. maybe it's just my lack of understanding, but why does it say "If you click Wintermute.. 100% of the cash goes to Wintermute minus paypal fees."? Why wouldn't everyone get 100% of the cash minus paypal fees?


It's a example.

#113699 - keldon - Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:45 pm

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/991226.html

Micropayments!!!

#113700 - Metaluna - Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:47 pm

Mrshlee wrote:

Support the community and the developers by donating to the people who make a impact, improve and encourage our community to grow.


We already have a donate to developers thread :

http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=11979

#113702 - wintermute - Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:06 pm

Lynx wrote:
Uhh.. maybe it's just my lack of understanding, but why does it say "If you click Wintermute.. 100% of the cash goes to Wintermute minus paypal fees."? Why wouldn't everyone get 100% of the cash minus paypal fees?


Would it help if the sentence was preceded with "for example" ?

Quote:

Anyway, nice idea.. but what I really think would be nice is if someone took the time to find every developer blog that had a donate button (yeah, the chip-in meters look nice, but aren't really needed) and put it on a single link page.. hmm..


Using other people's donation buttons on random pages could potentially result in their paypal accounts being frozen.
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#113703 - wintermute - Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:07 pm

Metaluna wrote:
Mrshlee wrote:

Support the community and the developers by donating to the people who make a impact, improve and encourage our community to grow.


We already have a donate to developers thread :

http://forum.gbadev.org/viewtopic.php?t=11979


So nobody else is allowed to encourage donations by any other means, ever?
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#113709 - Peter - Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:46 pm

Have these donate buttons any impact at all? Do people really donate for tools which they can get for free anyway?

I'm just curious, because I have a donate button on my webpage since years and received four donations. It seems to me that either my tools are cr*p or most users simply don't want to express their appreciation via a paypal button. I tend to the latter though ;)

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#113720 - Mrshlee - Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:37 pm

I don't know about you - but $160 in the first 12 hours works well for me.

and this is directly after christmas and everyone has just finished spending their last dime on chocolate and teddy bears for all their friends... great effort!

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Uhh.. maybe it's just my lack of understanding, but why does it say "If you click Wintermute.. 100% of the cash goes to Wintermute minus paypal fees."? Why wouldn't everyone get 100% of the cash minus paypal fees?

I heaps can't make that any simpler. People were asking if I got a "slice" or if money was directed via me as a "middleman".. the answer is no.

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if someone took the time to find every developer blog that had a donate button

If ANY developer wants to be included on the Dev-Scene Donation page.. PM ME!

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blah blah blah negative thing negative that

This seems to be a fairly.. too familiar opinion of people in the community. A disrespectful view at donations and developer support. Yes its been done before yes its nothing special.. yes I simply placed the donations onto a single page to make it look special..

Support the developers if you feel the urge.. if you don't feel like donating.. DON'T but the idea of complaining because others may is counter-productive.


The donations so far have been great. keep it up :)
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#113730 - Lynx - Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:20 am

WinterMute, It should just read "All donations are passed along 100% minus paypal fees".. it doesn't need to say anyones name.

Peter, I think it might depend on your target group. Many people have donated for DS projects and there is no reason to discourage it. As usual, each persons outcome may vary.

I also think we need to encourage all DS developers to have a donate button (if they can) on their blogs/sites. Sure, they may never get a donation, but if someone would like to donate it is available.

Mrshlee, like I said, I think the idea is great. But the page you have now seems like the same people that are mentioned in every "donation" thread started. And not to take away from them, they have done a lot of hard work and deserve every penny they receive. I'd just like to see names "outside the core group" like Tassu, JimmyL, Mollusk/PAlib, Miqualke, and should I even metioned.. (dun, dun, dahhhhh <scary music>) DarkFader, etc..

Edit: and if you are accepting the donations on behalf of them, and then sending it to them, that is just a waste of PayPal fees.
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#113731 - Mrshlee - Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:26 am

Payment is pointed DIRECTLY at them.. so there is only 1 pay pal fee payment.

once again, If ANY active developer gives me their paypal details I'll add them to the list.
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#113733 - keldon - Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:21 am

Micropayments!!! I like that concept!

#113735 - wintermute - Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:48 am

Peter wrote:
Have these donate buttons any impact at all? Do people really donate for tools which they can get for free anyway?


Just putting a donation button on your page will get the very occasional donation. I've found that drawing people's attention to the fact that there's a donation button usually increases the chances slightly and donation drives such as this one tends to gain quite a bit more. Nothing earth shattering or worth quitting your day job over but enough to get a bit of motivation going again.
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#113741 - wintermute - Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:18 am

keldon wrote:
Micropayments!!! I like that concept!


Everybody who wants to receive payments likes that concept. It never really seems to have taken off though.
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#113748 - Lynx - Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:44 am

Mrshlee wrote:
once again, If ANY active developer gives me their paypal details I'll add them to the list.
"You have no new messages"


Your condescending response makes me ask.. Did the people on that page directly contact you asking you to add them to that page?

I don't know what your problem is.. I'm just asking questions and I'm sure I'm not the only person that has them. Do I need to bold my "nice idea" comment? Did you not see the "maybe it's just my lack of understanding".. which is obviously the case.. Do I need to bold that as well?

Why are you always so defensive?
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#113779 - tepples - Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:47 pm

Lynx wrote:
Why are you always so defensive?

Because it's better than being offensive ;-)
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#113799 - Mrshlee - Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:15 pm

Dear Lynx, Im sorry if I seem condescending but someone seems to be missing my point or i'm missing yours.

Why did I do this? I'm not getting anything out of it...
Why do I do anything.. because I want to support the community.
Why did I do it this way? because its the best way I know how.

Can you please tell me where I'm the bad guy in this picture? What do you think I should do/change?

Opinions are welcome but no point being counter productive.

Idea: have a page listing every known developer with the description of the releases.. this way people can donate whatever amount they wish to whomever they wish.
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#113805 - Lynx - Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:04 pm

Mrshlee wrote:
Dear Lynx, Im sorry if I seem condescending but someone seems to be missing my point or i'm missing yours.


I was just asking a simple question. Hence the "my lack of understanding".. in otherwords.. I didn't understand.. that's why I ask questions. I'm all for the idea and I think it's great. I just had a question, so I asked..

Just like when I comment on homebrew. I'm just trying to give feedback from another point of view that the dever may not have.

again, I think the idea is great, and once there is a larger number of devers on the list it may be quiet beneficial.
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