#41131 - SimonB - Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:18 pm
Here's your chance to pre-order a copy of the 2004 GBADEV.ORG development competition game. The game is expected to start shipping in late May or early June, but as only 500 copies are available we strongly recommend you to pre-order today.
First class postage is included in the price, but to keep costs down only orders of 5 or more are insured/trackable.
Since a BIG part of the cost is paypal and postage fee's, the price / game goes down quite a lot when ordering several games...
Pre-order Now!
#41158 - zazery - Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:48 am
I live in Canada, do I just order as a US customer?
#41194 - cocole - Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:51 am
Just preordered mine :)
Thanks.
#41199 - SimonB - Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:01 am
Yes, Canadians can order from the US one......Ill update that now =)
Thanks!
Simon
#41210 - sgeos - Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:17 pm
If I live in "Asia" and want to pay in USD, how does that work?
-Brendan
#41218 - OrR - Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:31 pm
| sgeos wrote: |
If I live in "Asia" and want to pay in USD, how does that work?
-Brendan |
Who cares about currency when paying with Paypal? O.o
Edit: How many have been sold already? Do you need advertising or are a lot gone already?
#41228 - isildur - Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:51 pm
Do the winners still get a free copy?
#41233 - SimonB - Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:37 pm
| sgeos wrote: |
| If I live in "Asia" and want to pay in USD, how does that work? |
I suppose you could add 0.20$ and 3% (i think those are the correct paypal fee's) to the total (US) amount and send it to the US paypal address.
| isildur wrote: |
| Do the winners still get a free copy? |
Yes, at least 1 copy (+ 5 cartridges with just your entry on them).
| OrR wrote: |
| How many have been sold already? |
I will post on the site to show how many we sold in the first 24 hours.
Simon
#41234 - abilyk - Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:07 pm
I just preordered one as well. Congrats again to everybody who participated. There were a lot of cool entries.
#41238 - MindChamber - Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:39 pm
just curious.
how do you know which games your getting?
is there a way to choose from a list?
and are all the games you order put on one cart? or separate carts?
Sorry if this has been answered before, kinda new at this.
MC
#41241 - josath - Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:49 pm
You get all 10 games on one cart.
#41243 - MindChamber - Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:30 pm
| josath wrote: |
| You get all 10 games on one cart. |
Ok. so how does the price go down when you purchase all ten?
one game is 11 bucks, all ten is a 100? I wanna support this, but thats kinda steep.
and if I wanted just one or two games, do they go by winning order?
#41244 - SimonB - Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:39 pm
| MindChamber wrote: |
| josath wrote: | | You get all 10 games on one cart. |
Ok. so how does the price go down when you purchase all ten?
one game is 11 bucks, all ten is a 100? I wanna support this, but thats kinda steep.
and if I wanted just one or two games, do they go by winning order? |
There are 10 games on the cart. All carts have the same 10 games.
Simon
#41250 - MindChamber - Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:21 pm
| SimonB wrote: |
| MindChamber wrote: | | josath wrote: | | You get all 10 games on one cart. |
Ok. so how does the price go down when you purchase all ten?
one game is 11 bucks, all ten is a 100? I wanna support this, but thats kinda steep.
and if I wanted just one or two games, do they go by winning order? |
There are 10 games on the cart. All carts have the same 10 games.
Simon |
Oh ok. got it now, thanks.
#41252 - Ethos - Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:24 pm
$11 is a good investment, then sell them on ebay in a few years ;)
I can see it...
"GBADEV cart, RARE run, only 500 made! N/R"
#41258 - isildur - Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:04 am
Yes the people buying the carts will make more money on them than the developers. :)
#41304 - caitsith2 - Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:58 am
Yeah, I decided to order a copy for myself. Can't wait to try out the games that are on it.
#41320 - Lupin - Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:12 pm
i just ordered one :)
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#41324 - cocole - Wed Apr 27, 2005 3:38 pm
So how much have been sold so far ?
#41556 - SimonB - Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:16 pm
~350 compo carts left :=)
Simon
#41645 - ecurtz - Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:31 pm
Just showed up on BoingBoing - order yours fast...
#41646 - SimonB - Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:35 pm
less than 150 games left....
Simon
#41647 - jstart - Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:06 pm
| SimonB wrote: |
less than 150 games left....
Simon |
WOW! that was fast! I guess engadget and other places helped alot though... Still Awesome!
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#41649 - tepples - Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:22 pm
It appears we're establishing a rawther effective marketing network for future homebrew productions. Now I better start getting to work on Luminesweeper for the next compo...
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#41662 - SimonB - Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:35 pm
50 games left...
Simon
#41664 - SimonB - Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:47 pm
All gone.
Simon
#41666 - jstart - Sun May 01, 2005 12:04 am
Woah... You should buy more if they're selling that quickly!
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#41670 - caitsith2 - Sun May 01, 2005 12:44 am
| SimonB, Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:16 pm wrote: |
| ~350 compo carts left :=) |
| SimonB, Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:47 pm wrote: |
| All gone. |
That was pretty fast.
#41706 - bertil - Sun May 01, 2005 11:15 am
any chance of making more copies as they sold out so quickly?
I forgot to order in time :-(
#41734 - FlyHigh - Sun May 01, 2005 4:25 pm
225 gone in 1 day...
Would like to buy some but i guess its too late already :(
Anybody brought excess and would like to sell?
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#41762 - Suboptimal - Sun May 01, 2005 7:05 pm
Yeah, same here. Does anybody have an extra they'd want to sell? I've been waiting for money to transfer into my paypal account since freaking TUESDAY so I could pick one up, but it looks like it's too late for that. =(
#41766 - Abscissa - Sun May 01, 2005 7:51 pm
Are these coming from outside the US? I just noticed a small charge ($1.90 US) on my card for "FOREIGN TRANSACTION FEE", and unless it's from this cart I think it's a bogus charge.
#41791 - OrR - Sun May 01, 2005 11:08 pm
I told you that you should make 1500... :P With this huge success and the experience gained, will there be more projects like this in the future? I think it's an awesome thing... :)
#41805 - MrD - Mon May 02, 2005 12:47 am
Yay! I got one in time!
*dances around on the spot*
Hurrah for admin! Hurrah for coders! Hurrah for GBADEV!
*calms down*
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#41851 - sgeos - Mon May 02, 2005 1:26 pm
Already sold out?! I guess I procrastinated too long. =P
-Brendan
#41881 - Lupin - Mon May 02, 2005 7:25 pm
sgeos, don't worry, i can sell you mine for only 100 USD once i receive it.
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#41885 - isildur - Mon May 02, 2005 8:33 pm
anybody bought a big amount of carts? just curious to know if someone bought many to resell...
#41890 - SimonB - Mon May 02, 2005 9:32 pm
| isildur wrote: |
| anybody bought a big amount of carts? just curious to know if someone bought many to resell... |
I think a few people bought 5 carts....but dont think anyone bought more than that.
| OrR wrote: |
| I told you that you should make 1500... :P |
I wonder if you would say the same thing if you had spend a whole month worth of work on the project ;=)
| Abscissa wrote: |
| Are these coming from outside the US? I just noticed a small charge ($1.90 US) on my card for "FOREIGN TRANSACTION FEE", and unless it's from this cart I think it's a bogus charge. |
Carts ordered from the US will be sent from within the US. I dont know what that fee is and you are the only person who has mentioned it.
| bertil wrote: |
any chance of making more copies as they sold out so quickly?
I forgot to order in time :-( |
I have saved enough cartridges so that each compo winner could order a few even if things like this happend ;)
| tepples wrote: |
| Now I better start getting to work on Luminesweeper for the next compo... |
Next compo?! *shudders* ;D
Lets see how many lawsuits are filed before we start thinking about another one hehe
Simon
#41892 - SimonB - Mon May 02, 2005 9:39 pm
| SimonB wrote: |
Lets see how many lawsuits are filed before we start thinking about another one hehe |
On a completely unrelated note, the compo project has been sold to Kasemaseru Ltd in Lesotho, Africa...*whissles* ;)
Simon
#41896 - isildur - Mon May 02, 2005 10:03 pm
| SimonB wrote: |
| SimonB wrote: |
Lets see how many lawsuits are filed before we start thinking about another one hehe |
On a completely unrelated note, the compo project has been sold to Kasemaseru Ltd in Lesotho, Africa...*whissles* ;)
Simon |
link doesn't work...
#41897 - jstart - Mon May 02, 2005 10:05 pm
and nothing comes up on a google of Kasemaseru Ltd...
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#41901 - rthames - Mon May 02, 2005 10:48 pm
I can't believe I missed out on this. I've been waiting for months and then read about it on boingboing.net to find they're all sold out. I am willing to buy off an extra copy from someone at a rediculous price, but would prefer a not rediculous price. Anyways, I really would appreciate any help.
rthames@gmail.com
#41925 - SimonB - Tue May 03, 2005 7:44 am
| jstart wrote: |
| and nothing comes up on a google of Kasemaseru Ltd... |
Thats because it was a joke :P
Simon
#41932 - sgeos - Tue May 03, 2005 10:55 am
| Lupin wrote: |
| sgeos, don't worry, i can sell you mine for only 100 USD once i receive it. |
Thanks but no thanks. I'd rather spend that money on food.
EDIT: Or used commercial games or whatnot. For 100 USD I could pick up a lot of used commercial games. I got a used copy Pokemon Card for 100 yen, and a used copy of Quix for 50 yen. I kind of wanted to pick up a cart to support the cause, but I guess I don't need to do my part. Everyone else did it for me... or something like that. =P
-Brendan
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#41935 - isildur - Tue May 03, 2005 2:30 pm
| SimonB wrote: |
| jstart wrote: | | and nothing comes up on a google of Kasemaseru Ltd... |
Thats because it was a joke :P
Simon |
You got me scared
#41939 - rthames - Tue May 03, 2005 3:48 pm
I'm down for that deal. Someone help me please.
rthames@gmail.com
#42012 - Abscissa - Wed May 04, 2005 6:13 am
| SimonB wrote: |
| Abscissa wrote: | | Are these coming from outside the US? I just noticed a small charge ($1.90 US) on my card for "FOREIGN TRANSACTION FEE", and unless it's from this cart I think it's a bogus charge. |
Carts ordered from the US will be sent from within the US. I dont know what that fee is and you are the only person who has mentioned it. |
The bank just said that it was connected to a $95 Hotel charge in the UK (Which I had already spotted as bogus) from a few days before I ordered the cart, so turns out it's completely unrelated to the cart. So nevermind :)
#42035 - FlyHigh - Wed May 04, 2005 7:44 pm
| SimonB wrote: |
I have saved enough cartridges so that each compo winner could order a few even if things like this happend ;)
|
Thanks, that was close, i thought it might be 1 per team in which case my team mate deserves it (thanks djceejay!). it would suck to make a game and not be able to get a copy :(
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#42042 - SimonB - Wed May 04, 2005 9:19 pm
| FlyHigh wrote: |
| Thanks, that was close, i thought it might be 1 per team |
Each person (or team) behind a winning compo entry get 1 copy for free but will have to pay for additional copies. I have enough saved for each compo winning team to order a few...
Simon
#42066 - FlyHigh - Thu May 05, 2005 9:03 am
Yeah thats cool I wanted to support this anyway :)
So shall I get my teammate to email you or something?
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#44533 - TheMikaus - Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:00 pm
Any word on the ETA of shipping the carts?
#44535 - SimonB - Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:03 pm
Hopefully by the end of June.
Simon
#44583 - Eclipse - Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:55 am
End of June....>_<..better late then never :P.
I have been meaning to ask, do these carts fit in the DS unit?
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#50801 - josath - Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:28 am
Where's our carts?
Last news post is Jul 18th...and you said you'd keep us updated!
A month between updates is not what I call fast...
By my calculations (probably wrong), since you've had everyone's money for 4 months now, you would have made an extra ~$55 at 3% interest rate (i used the rate I have in my savings account).
I know this is something that hasn't been done before (homebrew gba carts), but you've had plenty of time! The compo ended in January! You shouldn't have taken everyone's money if you weren't prepared to deliver...the original promise was shipping in late May or early June!
Now it's mid august...2.5 months past the promised date. I'm surprised nobody else is complaining.
Please, give us some updates. I'm starting to hear this voice in the back of my head saying "You got ripped off...he took your money and ran." I could probably get my money back through paypal fraud, but I'm still holding onto the hope that you'll come through and ship them off.
#50804 - Duodreamer - Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:58 am
The carts were delayed due to a problem. News about the delay was posted not long ago. Rest assured, the cartridges WILL be sent out when everything has been completed. Considering how inexpensive they were, and how gbadev.org isn't making some huge ungodly profit from the project, I think you guys can be understanding.
#50806 - josath - Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:57 am
| Duodreamer wrote: |
| The carts were delayed due to a problem. News about the delay was posted not long ago. |
Right, they were delayed like 5 times, due to various, and the last news post was a month ago.
| Quote: |
Considering how inexpensive they were, and how gbadev.org isn't making some huge ungodly profit from the project, I think you guys can be understanding. |
They told us originally they wouldn't be making a profit AT ALL. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not some capitalism hater, there's nothing wrong with making a profit for your work/time, but don't claim you are doing it at "break even" and make it seem like a public good, when you are going to make a profit.
| 2004mbit website wrote: |
| Please keep in mind that neither GBADEV.ORG or any of the developers behind the winning games will make ANY money from this competition. |
| #dsdev wrote: |
Jul 30 16:30:26 <dovoto> ahh..well he said he was selling them at cost
Jul 30 16:30:45 <StoneCybh> the programmer is roughly $700 and the carts are $1.50 each
Jul 30 16:30:48 <StoneCybh> do the math
Jul 30 16:34:58 <StoneCybh> i suppose it's possible that he bought for $5k what my first google search found for $1500
|
#50807 - StoneCypher - Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:02 am
| Quote: |
| The carts were delayed due to a problem. News about the delay was posted not long ago. Rest assured, the cartridges WILL be sent out when everything has been completed. Considering how inexpensive they were, and how gbadev.org isn't making some huge ungodly profit from the project, I think you guys can be understanding. |
They've been understanding in dead silence since a month ago. Their carts are four months late. There's understanding, and then there's understanding. Simon has made no attempt to communicate what's going on, and is currently selling carts off.
Just how much no-answer do you expect from people?
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#50814 - Duodreamer - Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:36 pm
| Quote: |
They told us originally they wouldn't be making a profit AT ALL. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not some capitalism hater, there's nothing wrong with making a profit for your work/time, but don't claim you are doing it at "break even" and make it seem like a public good, when you are going to make a profit. |
You misunderstood. I did not say that they were making a profit. I did not mean to infer that either. I said "gbadev.org isn't making some huge ungodly profit from the project". That does not automatically mean they're making a profit, small, medium, or otherwise. They aren't. Between the cost of carts, the cost of boxes, manuals, shipping packages and shipping itself, it is breakeven.
And as for Simon selling carts on the side, he's NOT selling the carts that are intended for the compo. He's selling ones that were originally going to be used for the compo, but were not working. He ordered a whole new set of carts to put the compo entries on. He later found out that the first set of carts were indeed working, and put them up for sale to recoup the cost of them.
#50825 - TheMikaus - Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:33 pm
I don't really see why you guys are getting upset. Delay on boxes, random problems and then programming teams not getting all the extra things in on time.
So not all of it is their fault. Being pissy and threatening fraud when they told you it would take a while is plain crappy of you. You were warned.
And maybe the status hasn't changed yet, maybe the box company hasn't sent the boxes yet. Do you really want an update that states "Boxes still aren't here, no real update" ? Or maybe other things happened in Simon's personal life that has nothing to do with us that might have delayed the carts. Whatever it is. He'll post eventually and we'll get news.
Either way, jumping to conclusions like that is pretty crappy. I understand that we've all been patient for a couple of months. So I dont really see that being patient another one will hurt. Also you could have asked for an update w/o threatening, but I guess that's just the way you wanted to push it.
#50834 - tepples - Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:53 pm
OK, to push this thread onto a new page without a threatening tone:
As of mid-August, what is the status on delivering the compo carts?
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#50843 - Duodreamer - Sat Aug 13, 2005 8:14 pm
Current Status is waiting on completion of the boxes and manuals. :/
#50885 - sgeos - Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:36 am
I'm assuming that the carts have been produced. Is this the general understanding? Last I checked the carts were sold out. Is this still the case?
-Brendan
#50889 - josath - Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:40 am
| Duodreamer wrote: |
| Current Status is waiting on completion of the boxes and manuals. :/ |
So the desings have been submitted to the printer, and he's been paid, and you're just waiting for them to be printed? And once they are you can begin shipping?
#50909 - SimonB - Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:12 pm
| josath wrote: |
| Where's our carts? |
Its not upto me anymore. Its a community effort and everyone has work/school/lives that needs to come first. I have done my part and am waiting on others to come thru. The box/manual manufacturer has been paid and we are currently waiting on the boxes/manuals. Joat is still working on the final compo build and sgstair is working on the intro. Yes, the compo did end in January but some of the compo winners did not get a chance to submit their final versions until May or similar.
| josath wrote: |
| By my calculations (probably wrong), since you've had everyone's money for 4 months now, you would have made an extra ~$55 at 3% interest rate (i used the rate I have in my savings account). |
I have made exactly 0$usd in interest. sgstair can verify this as he has been safekeeping the money.
| #dsdev wrote: |
Jul 30 16:30:26 <dovoto> ahh..well he said he was selling them at cost
Jul 30 16:30:45 <StoneCybh> the programmer is roughly $700 and the carts are $1.50 each
Jul 30 16:30:48 <StoneCybh> do the math
Jul 30 16:34:58 <StoneCybh> i suppose it's possible that he bought for $5k what my first google search found for $1500
|
That is not the correct amounts at all. Just shipping for the stuff is much more than 1500$usd. I have not made a single $usd on this project.
| StoneCypher wrote: |
| Simon has made no attempt to communicate what's going on, and is currently selling carts off. |
Yes, I am selling carts but the OLD compo carts that did not work properly. I finally managed to get them to work but by that time I already had 500 new carts. Feel free to verify this with DuoDreamr as he has most of the compo cartridges ready to be sent to US "customers".
| josath wrote: |
| So the desings have been submitted to the printer, and he's been paid, and you're just waiting for them to be printed? |
Yes, yes and yes. I have been away on holiday for 10 days so I have not had a chance to check up on the progress. I should be able to do so dhis comming week.
People need to understand (and I guess most people do as this is only complaint I remember seeing) that projects like this can take much longer than first expected. There are a lot of people involved and everyone has their own life. I am not going to ask them to make the compo project their first priority when we are doing this without any pay. If anyone does have a problem with this and wants their money back feel free to say so. We had to turn hundreds of customers down as we sold out so quickly. I am sure one of them would be happy to hear that they can purchase a cartridge.
Simon
#51913 - MrD - Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:56 pm
Just saw the boxes down on http://2004mbit.gbadev.org/ , nice work! Truly a piece o' history! :D
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#51931 - zazery - Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:38 pm
Wow you're right they look great, can't wait to see what the manual looks like.
#52375 - josath - Tue Aug 30, 2005 9:57 am
so the boxes are done....that means the carts should start shipping withing a week, right? (yay)
1. go down to kinko's and get the manuals printed
2. burn the rom onto all the carts (if it's not done already)
3. put everything in boxes to ship
4. walk/drive down to the usps
i can't see that taking more than a week or so, unless there is anything else i am forgetting?
#52480 - Eclipse - Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:11 am
| josath wrote: |
so the boxes are done....that means the carts should start shipping withing a week, right? (yay)
1. go down to kinko's and get the manuals printed
2. burn the rom onto all the carts (if it's not done already)
3. put everything in boxes to ship
4. walk/drive down to the usps
i can't see that taking more than a week or so, unless there is anything else i am forgetting? |
Kinkos stinks...their prints are horrible in my past experiences with them.
#52515 - Duodreamer - Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:44 pm
| josath wrote: |
so the boxes are done....that means the carts should start shipping withing a week, right? (yay)
1. go down to kinko's and get the manuals printed
2. burn the rom onto all the carts (if it's not done already)
3. put everything in boxes to ship
4. walk/drive down to the usps
i can't see that taking more than a week or so, unless there is anything else i am forgetting? |
For starters, Simon is in Sweden... not sure if they have any Kinkos there.
There are hundreds of packages to label, insert, seal, and ship. And you can't just drop off hundreds of packages at the USPS at once. Unless you want to pay several hundred for a mass mailer... in addition to postage.
Really, we know you're all very anxious, and we're trying to accommodate, its just not easy.
#53399 - josath - Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:51 am
so it has been another week...any news?
#53437 - SimonB - Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:24 pm
Im pretty sure we wont forget to annouce when we have started shipping the games so you dont have to worry about that. Thanks for your concern though.
Simon
#56157 - SimonB - Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:09 pm
The manuals have arrived =)
Visit the compo website for more information: http://2004mbit.gbadev.org/
Simon
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